Vivek on guns

Rand paul never ran a real campaign tho he just flung shit

Love the dude don't get me wrong but it's very easy to fling shit
Huh?

Rand Paul doesn't "fling shit". As a matter of fact he did the exact opposite which is why he will never be a serious candidate for President. He is kinda boring.
 
TDS is Trump's Deranged Supporters, and I don't know what their handbook says.

What Trump said was, "Ban bump stocks!", and "Take the guns first, due process later!"
So no guns banned? An Accessory and some meaningless words. Anyone still crying over bumpstocks after the last 3 years is insane. The country has massively larger problems than an unpopular firearm accessory.
 
So no guns banned? An Accessory and some meaningless words. Anyone still crying over bumpstocks after the last 3 years is insane. The country has massively larger problems than an unpopular firearm accessory.
Tell that to people who had their firearms taken away as a result of red flag laws.

“high” capacity magazines are just an accessory. No big deal that they are essentially banned in MA right? Or all those accessories that classify a rifle as an “assault weapon” in MA?

He’s not perfect. I voted for him and will again. That said he wasn’t great on guns. Certainly better than the current alternative.
 
Tell that to people who had their firearms taken away as a result of red flag laws.

“high” capacity magazines are just an accessory. No big deal that they are essentially banned in MA right? Or all those accessories that classify a rifle as an “assault weapon” in MA?

He’s not perfect. I voted for him and will again. That said he wasn’t great on guns. Certainly better than the current alternative.
The claim was he banned guns. I asked which guns.

You using the lefts term "high" capacity doesn't make it an accessory, it's needed to shoot the gun.(you know what i mean).

Did Trump start red flag laws? Or was this another case of him blindly following the establishment Republicans? I'm not saying that was smart, he made that dumb move quite a bit. The Republicans at the time sold us out 1000x more than Trump, yet he gets the flak.
 
The claim was he banned guns. I asked which guns.

You using the lefts term "high" capacity doesn't make it an accessory, it's needed to shoot the gun.(you know what i mean).

Did Trump start red flag laws? Or was this another case of him blindly following the establishment Republicans? I'm not saying that was smart, he made that dumb move quite a bit. The Republicans at the time sold us out 1000x more than Trump, yet he gets the flak.
They are an accessory whether you want them to be or not.

As for the flak… he was POTUS and the buck stops with him. No different then any other President. Whether he was blindly following something or not he advocated for circumventing peoples rights which I will never be ok with.

He isn’t infallible and should be criticized when he made mistakes.
 
They are an accessory whether you want them to be or not.

As for the flak… he was POTUS and the buck stops with him. No different then any other President. Whether he was blindly following something or not he advocated for circumventing peoples rights which I will never be ok with.

He isn’t infallible and should be criticized when he made mistakes.
A magazine is part of a functioning gun, I don't see how it's an accessory. A sight, a stock, a suppressor, yes, Those are accessories. Accessories don't come in the original purchase box, that's bad for business! A standard capacity magazine even sounds like it's standard and not something extra.

What's the biggest take on Trump & guns? He's not a gun guy. So where would a non-gun guy Boomer, who still thinks the country operates the way the propaganda says it does, go for suggestions on firearm policy? The NRA! My pearls!

Should Trump have done that? No, but he's not a gun-guy.
 
So no guns banned? An Accessory and some meaningless words. Anyone still crying over bumpstocks after the last 3 years is insane. The country has massively larger problems than an unpopular firearm accessory.
How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. Just like the liberals/Democrats whom we decry - it starts with one step at a time, regardless of what title they are operating under.
They are an accessory whether you want them to be or not.

As for the flak… he was POTUS and the buck stops with him. No different then any other President. Whether he was blindly following something or not he advocated for circumventing peoples rights which I will never be ok with.

He isn’t infallible and should be criticized when he made mistakes.
If it was a bill, maybe, since he could be over-ridden and he would want to look "moderate" to both sides. But as an EO that HE wrote and signed (sure, someone else actually wrote it for him), it's on HIM.
 
How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. Just like the liberals/Democrats whom we decry - it starts with one step at a time, regardless of what title they are operating under.

If it was a bill, maybe, since he could be over-ridden and he would want to look "moderate" to both sides. But as an EO that HE wrote and signed (sure, someone else actually wrote it for him), it's on HIM.

I believe the ban has already been reversed?

I'll take my chances with the bumpstock guy since I ignored the ban the 1st time. Bumpstocks have turned into this monolith for the TDS crowd.

Of course if logic dictates Trump banned bumpstocks and therefore is bad on 2A, that must mean Biden is great on 2A since it was reversed on his watch! Is NES pro-Biden now?
 
First NEVER listen to what politicians say, ONLY look at what they do or have done.

Politicians get to be very good at speaking to the audience, and then they change their tune as soon as the audience changes. With that said, we are in the primary phase of this process and the audience is conservative voters.

As for prior history of actions, creating a large 'healthcare' database is dangerous for gun owners. "San Francisco-based Datavant was spun out of biopharma entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy's Roivant group in 2018.." Roivant spinout Datavant merges with Ciox to form $7bn health data giant.

I have some major concerns about this candidate.


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Hey, white bread, there isn't a single politician who would do anything about the Hugh's amendment. Also, remind us again, white-out, which president outlawed bump stocks?

Woah woah woah there, son.

From T-unit's many posts, there is little evidence he/she is white.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's Gay4HK's alt account.
 
First NEVER listen to what politicians say, ONLY look at what they do or have done.

Politicians get to be very good at speaking to the audience, and then they change their tune as soon as the audience changes. With that said, we are in the primary phase of this process and the audience is conservative voters.

As for prior history of actions, creating a large 'healthcare' database is dangerous for gun owners. "San Francisco-based Datavant was spun out of biopharma entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy's Roivant group in 2018.." Roivant spinout Datavant merges with Ciox to form $7bn health data giant.

I have some major concerns about this candidate.


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I suppose if I told you that today's pharmaceutical research is 70% data mining, you'd be completely surprised. Pharmaceuticals these days don't go mixing chemicals in the hope of finding one that works. Instead, they mine millions of medical records, prescription combinations, and procedures. all of this data is anonymized. The law on exposing patient information is clear: anyone who exposes personally identifiable information is going to lose millions plus their license to practice.

Vivek's company created a system that ensures anonymous data sharing as opposed to amateurish attempts by the government (ex. MA and CA exposing gun owner data) or companies to anonymize data.

I suppose if one were to just go by buzzwords "medical" and "data", it is possible to concoct a theory that Vivek wants to sell your privacy to big pharma
 
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