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I was just curious I thought we were discussing this I was curious cause I logged on to the licensing one and it wasn’t there. I probably dreamed it up.You have to download the from from the Licensing Bearou - print it out. Get it notorized. Send it in.
They'll mail you what they have on file.
I would never break the law but if it's not on the list - they don't know you own it.
If it's on the list you may not own it either.
When they come to confiscate and your unknown guns are in NH at the Chalet - contact a lawyer before bringing them back to Massachusetts to deliver to the police.
I am not a lawyer.
There was a database "leak" a couple years ago. With some supplementary databases that are available to law enforcement, it's pretty easy to get a solid picture of your ownership.I was just curious I thought we were discussing this I was curious cause I logged on to the licensing one and it wasn’t there. I probably dreamed it up.
I think I was thinking about how they all got leaked or maybe it was the gun owners and what they have. I don’t remember.
Civilians don't have online access to their transfers.I was just curious I thought we were discussing this I was curious cause I logged on to the licensing one and it wasn’t there. I probably dreamed it up.
I think I was thinking about how they all got leaked or maybe it was the gun owners and what they have. I don’t remember.
Wow, that was incredibly easy. The hardest thing was to get my printer to work.. wonder what response time will be no rush.You have to download the from from the Licensing Bearou - print it out. Get it notorized. Send it in.
They'll mail you what they have on file.
I would never break the law but if it's not on the list - they don't know you own it.
If it's on the list you may not own it either.
When they come to confiscate and your unknown guns are in NH at the Chalet - contact a lawyer before bringing them back to Massachusetts to deliver to the police.
I am not a lawyer.
That was the leak I was referring to if I remembered it was accurate for some, but the older you were or the more transfers you were involved in the less it wasThere was a database "leak" a couple years ago. With some supplementary databases that are available to law enforcement, it's pretty easy to get a solid picture of your ownership.
Whether any LE agency would bother to is another debate. If they want to know about you, they know about you.
Solid picture of your ownership ....Im not in MA anymore but say I was.....do they have taken off the list the 20 or so guns I traded/sold to KTP or wherever dealer thru the 35 years of living there as a licensed gun owner.There was a database "leak" a couple years ago. With some supplementary databases that are available to law enforcement, it's pretty easy to get a solid picture of your ownership.
Whether any LE agency would bother to is another debate. If they want to know about you, they know about you.
Every time I see that I just wonder what’s on the other side of the wall, but I guess it would us. Or possibly the pets.
AFT is spelled wrong.
Solid picture of your ownership ....Im not in MA anymore but say I was.....do they have taken off the list the 20 or so guns I traded/sold to KTP or wherever dealer thru the 35 years of living there as a licensed gun owner.
Nothing solid about any list MA has. Us old timers have guns that would probably show up on that list that we sold/traded/disposed of years ago, that we probably forgot we ever owned. Its a joke. Ownership to me...means I own it currently....not had owned it...and don't own it....yet its still on the list that I own it? That's wrong.
All that list shows is that you bought a gun in MA, and maybe if you sold it/traded it to an in state dealer, or person in state via FA-10...MAYBE it takes you off as an owner.....not even sure of that. They probably keep both of you owning it for christ sake.
Nothing gets removed. My 30 years of gun purchases except for the ones on paper and I am not talking about FA10's the pre FA10 paper all show up. I have hundreds of gun transfers listed under my name and none that were sold in state person to person, in state FFL's and out of state FFL sales are not removed.Solid picture of your ownership ....Im not in MA anymore but say I was.....do they have taken off the list the 20 or so guns I traded/sold to KTP or wherever dealer thru the 35 years of living there as a licensed gun owner.
Nothing solid about any list MA has. Us old timers have guns that would probably show up on that list that we sold/traded/disposed of years ago, that we probably forgot we ever owned. Its a joke. Ownership to me...means I own it currently....not had owned it...and don't own it....yet its still on the list that I own it? That's wrong.
All that list shows is that you bought a gun in MA, and maybe if you sold it/traded it to an in state dealer, or person in state via FA-10...MAYBE it takes you off as an owner.....not even sure of that. They probably keep both of you owning it for christ sake.
Solid picture of your ownership ....Im not in MA anymore but say I was.....do they have taken off the list the 20 or so guns I traded/sold to KTP or wherever dealer thru the 35 years of living there as a licensed gun owner.
Nothing solid about any list MA has. Us old timers have guns that would probably show up on that list that we sold/traded/disposed of years ago, that we probably forgot we ever owned. Its a joke. Ownership to me...means I own it currently....not had owned it...and don't own it....yet its still on the list that I own it? That's wrong.
All that list shows is that you bought a gun in MA, and maybe if you sold it/traded it to an in state dealer, or person in state via FA-10...MAYBE it takes you off as an owner.....not even sure of that. They probably keep both of you owning it for christ sake.
Website in MA to view guns you own?
I swear this is a thing but maybe I’m thinking about your licenses? But is there such a thing or do you have to request it on paper?
This..there is no outbound at all, to dealer, or in state, or person to person. ..........so basically....FA-10 could essentially be called a record of purchases.....Nothing gets removed. My 30 years of gun purchases except for the ones on paper and I am not talking about FA10's the pre FA10 paper all show up. I have hundreds of gun transfers listed under my name and none that were sold in state person to person, in state FFL's and out of state FFL sales are not removed.
No, unfortunately, only shows your buys - not your sales. If you buy 25, and subsequently sell 10 over time, the listing will still show the 25 buys. No reflection/reduction of the 10 sold.Solid picture of your ownership ....Im not in MA anymore but say I was.....do they have taken off the list the 20 or so guns I traded/sold to KTP or wherever dealer thru the 35 years of living there as a licensed gun owner.
Nothing solid about any list MA has. Us old timers have guns that would probably show up on that list that we sold/traded/disposed of years ago, that we probably forgot we ever owned. Its a joke. Ownership to me...means I own it currently....not had owned it...and don't own it....yet its still on the list that I own it? That's wrong.
All that list shows is that you bought a gun in MA, and maybe if you sold it/traded it to an in state dealer, or person in state via FA-10...MAYBE it takes you off as an owner.....not even sure of that. They probably keep both of you owning it for christ sake.
... AND subsequent eFA-10's for guns you previously owned that were resold within MA if the transfer was recorded.When this shit hole state doxed every gun owner a few years back you could get an excel file with information it didn't list your name but you could look up by town and what you efa 10'd up to that point
If the gun was accurately described in the form and it was actually scanned and not lost in the flood, etc., then if they search the database by gun, they find two, dated transfers and discard the older (or prosecute both for the heck of it**). If they search your name they'll see the gun belonging to you and if they search by his name they'll also see the gun belonging to him.For those that are doing a transfer and think they are outbounding........there is no real transfer taking place, the record now shows as 2 people owning the same firearm.
Of course this is all null and void once you and the firearms leave MA.
I don't recall any case like that.** @Len-2A Training - didn't you once tell me a Tale of Two Murder Trials, where Mass convicted two different people of the same murder? Maybe it was a lesser crime or even a movie, but somehow, I remember hearing the story in your voice.
I'll chalk that up to my faulty recollection thenI don't recall any case like that.
If the gun was accurately described in the form and it was actually scanned and not lost in the flood, etc., then if they search the database by gun, they find two, dated transfers and discard the older (or prosecute both for the heck of it**). If they search your name they'll see the gun belonging to you and if they search by his name they'll also see the gun belonging to him.