3/27/23 Nashville School Shooting

[safetyfirst2125]

Some trans are very normal, not mentally ill people, but a large, and very vocal segment are hideous, Socialist creatures that look like they were spawned from Hell itself.

Yep. It’s one thing if there’s a kink and you wanna dress up and get spanked/wear a dress/whatever.

It’s another thing altogether to really believe you’re another gender and want to not only cut your body parts off but do the same to innocent children after convincing them they should too behind their parents back,

Kinks: firearms ok.

Mentally ill body self-mutilating cutters and molesters of children: not ok, should seek help and stay the hell away from weapons AND children.

My 2c.

 

[Admin]

Employee accused of intentionally leaving gas valves on in HVA classroom out on bond

The air was tested, officials said, and no trace of gas was detected.

www.wvlt.tv

If he would have only gotten one more participation trophy this would have never happened.

 

[fencer]

It is disturbing that the Trans community pushes so hard against laws that say these kids have to wait until they are adults to begin transitioning.
We have laws against many behaviors until people are adults for a reason, and they are more or less accepted by society.
You can't drive, drink, vote, marry or serve in the military until you reach a certain age. Why is it so important to these groups that children are allowed to make life altering decisions about gender? The obvious answer is that they want to push their agenda and increase their numbers while kids are easily influenced and impressionable. Because they know when kids start using more reason, they are more likely to be cautious.
Logic should dictate that the more permanent the decision, the older you should have to be to make it legally. Make a bad decision about marriage, you can get a divorce. Military enlistment? Don't re-up. But you can't just grow a dick back. Pretty permanent.

If the trans community were serious, they would be pushing to allow all government imposed age restrictions to be removed. They seriously expect that a 12 year old shouldn't be allowed to watch an R rated movie, but can have her breasts surgically removed? To young to rent a car, but old enough to cut off your penis.
Doctors that are willing to perform these procedures should have their medical license revoked.

 

[Picton]

Why is it so important to these groups that children are allowed to make life altering decisions about gender?

It's because they don't see it as a "decision." They see it as a righting of some sort of karmic wrong. They think they are born in the wrong body. You don't have to buy that, but you should understand that's where they're coming from: their default position is that these kids have an identity that "we" don't allow them to embrace, and that refusing to let them embrace it is some sort of atrocity against them.

I doubt most people in that community are all that militant about it, but the ones who are are not going to shut up about this. I try to understand where they're coming from, because they're not going away and (as we're seeing here) the conflicts are just going to get worse and worse. For children who are genuinely TG, I feel a lot of pity. But I think they're a much smaller percentage than the activists want us to acknowledge, and that's why I'd advocate waiting until much later.

FWIW, I think this particular shooter is a horrible poster child for them to hang their hat on. I'm not aware of any evidence she was gender-confused until she was like 27 years old, and at that point, it definitely does seem like a "decision." Obviously, as more evidence comes to light, that might change.

 

[SpaceCritter]

It is disturbing that the Trans community pushes so hard against laws that say these kids have to wait until they are adults to begin transitioning.
We have laws against many behaviors until people are adults for a reason, and they are more or less accepted by society.
You can't drive, drink, vote, marry or serve in the military until you reach a certain age. Why is it so important to these groups that children are allowed to make life altering decisions about gender? The obvious answer is that they want to push their agenda and increase their numbers while kids are easily influenced and impressionable. Because they know when kids start using more reason, they are more likely to be cautious.
Logic should dictate that the more permanent the decision, the older you should have to be to make it legally. Make a bad decision about marriage, you can get a divorce. Military enlistment? Don't re-up. But you can't just grow a dick back. Pretty permanent.

If the trans community were serious, they would be pushing to allow all government imposed age restrictions to be removed. They seriously expect that a 12 year old shouldn't be allowed to watch an R rated movie, but can have her breasts surgically removed? To young to rent a car, but old enough to cut off your penis.
Doctors that are willing to perform these procedures should have their medical license revoked.

You know this is so by the twiddling of the language. It used to be "gender reassignment surgery" a.k.a. a "sex-change operation" - now it's "Gender Affirming Care."

 

[heck ya beaches]

It is disturbing that the Trans community pushes so hard against laws that say these kids have to wait until they are adults to begin transitioning.
We have laws against many behaviors until people are adults for a reason, and they are more or less accepted by society.
You can't drive, drink, vote, marry or serve in the military until you reach a certain age. Why is it so important to these groups that children are allowed to make life altering decisions about gender? The obvious answer is that they want to push their agenda and increase their numbers while kids are easily influenced and impressionable. Because they know when kids start using more reason, they are more likely to be cautious.
Logic should dictate that the more permanent the decision, the older you should have to be to make it legally. Make a bad decision about marriage, you can get a divorce. Military enlistment? Don't re-up. But you can't just grow a dick back. Pretty permanent.

If the trans community were serious, they would be pushing to allow all government imposed age restrictions to be removed. They seriously expect that a 12 year old shouldn't be allowed to watch an R rated movie, but can have her breasts surgically removed? To young to rent a car, but old enough to cut off your penis.
Doctors that are willing to perform these procedures should have their medical license revoked.

they don't care about the kids, they just want younger people that are easy to victimize or who made the same shit choices they made so they don't have to confront reality

 

[heck ya beaches]

You know this is so by the twiddling of the language. It used to be "gender reassignment surgery" a.k.a. a "sex-change operation" - now it's "Gender Affirming Care."

Is this the same thing as genital mutilation? I just can't keep track!

 

[Picton]

Is this the same thing as genital mutilation?

Not even slightly. FGM is a legit problem when cultures clash. This is more of a culture-war skirmish.

 

[Waher]

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[SwampYankee42]

they don't care about the kids, they just want younger people that are easy to victimize or who made the same shit choices they made so they don't have to confront reality

Unlike normal healthy people they cannot have offspring in a natural way so the only way they reproduce is via ideological capture. They know who the most easily manipulated are and once you begin to mutilate yourself you're either left with the path of "doubling down" or killing yourself.
Much like .40 s&w enthusiasts

 

[Waher]

Much like .40 s&w enthusiasts

A metric round that got cut down to identify itself by an imperial caliber. Going to have to agree with that one.

 

[Brewer]

The contradictions never cease to amaze me. People argue that 8-year-olds are responsible enough to cut off their genitals but 18-year-olds can't be held responsible for paying off their student loans.

Take either argument consistently:

1. Children are competent enough to permanently modify their bodies, therefore young adults with an additional 10+ years maturity are even more competent to commit to paying off student loans.
2. Young adults must be protected from predatory student lending, therefore children with 10+ years less maturity must be protected from predatory trans grooming.

And as usual, addressing the Left's contradiction with reason gets answered with shouting. Ignoring reason and consistency on such a level requires active, willful effort. Someone must have a bias motivating this level of willful ignorance.

 

[SpaceCritter]

And as usual, addressing the Left's contradiction with reason gets answered with shouting.

...and tears, and the flinging of poo (and urine).

 

[heck ya beaches]

Not even slightly. FGM is a legit problem when cultures clash. This is more of a culture-war skirmish.

i'd say cutting off someone's genitals counts as mutilation

 

[Picton]

i'd say cutting off someone's genitals counts as mutilation

It's about the motivation.

One's about trying to help a disordered patient, the other's about trying to control her sex life.

 

[pupchow]

The virtuous know what's best for "them" and "we." Someone feels different. So what? There are right-handed people and there are wrong-handed people.

 

[heck ya beaches]

It's about the motivation.

One's about trying to help a disordered patient, the other's about trying to control her sex life.

I'd say most "trans" are trying to control the sex lives of children.

 

[Picton]

I'd say most "trans" are trying to control the sex lives of children.

Yes. But "you" aren't the one making the decision, nor doing the mutilating. You're also confusing sex with gender.

"Their" motivation is worth trying to understand, unless you just want to keep escalating the violence.

 

[heck ya beaches]

The virtuous know what's best for "them" and "we." Someone feels different. So what? There are right- handed people and there are wrong-handed people.

I trained myself to be right handed, but I'm still left-eye dominant. Trans-ocular lives matter :[

 

[heck ya beaches]

Yes. But "you" aren't the one making the decision, nor doing the mutilating.

For the victims of trans bullshit, they're not really making the decisions either. It's mutilation at the hands of a butcher either way.

 

[Picton]

For the victims of trans bullshit, they're not really making the decisions either.

That's why I'd advocate waiting on gender-reassignment, as I said above.

I think you're talking about several different things here: gender-assignment surgery done on babies for intersex conditions isn't the same as gender-assignment surgery done for TG conditions, at whatever age. And neither is the same as FGM.

There are grey areas here, whether you like it or not.

 

[heck ya beaches]

That's why I'd advocate waiting on gender-reassignment, as I said above.

I think you're talking about several different things here: gender-assignment surgery done on babies for intersex conditions isn't the same as gender-assignment surgery done for TG conditions, at whatever age. And neither is the same as FGM.

There are grey areas here, whether you like it or not.

no one is talking about the 1 in 500 million babies that are born intersex.

everything else is just a spectrum of mutilation by a piece of shit butcher

 

[TLB]

I'd say most "trans" are trying to control the sex lives of children.

Vocal minorities manage to control the narrative often, especially when they are doing the bidding of what the system wants. I bet the vast majority of trans people are not activists. Similarly, the views of homosexuals have been attributed to the antics of the few vocal minorities for decades. I have gay people in my family and you wouldn't even know they were gay if you hung out with them.

This Christian vs trans stuff is another trap, just like the race problems they have been trying to inflame, especially since Obama was elected. They really want conflict and violence so they can exert full government control and implement the Great Reset.

 

[paul73]

People argue that 8-year-olds are responsible enough to cut off their genitals

well, it is an incredibly profitable industry now, the sex alterations. and it gets partially funded by free .gov money, only lazy would not jump on that train.

the only truth is - no one cares about those kids or their gender or damages done to them, no one cares about no one here. it is a one mighty money making machine that now benefits from the idiocy of policy makers and consumes those trans as a source material. if it would not be so profitable - we would see none of it on tv screens whatsoever.

 

[paul73]

That's why I'd advocate waiting on gender-reassignment, as I said above.

boo you. first you alter the sex, then set that thing on a life-long required supply of meds.
when done at age of 8 or 9 - you look here at millions of $ per body in medical payments over the lifetime. it is more profitable than cancer.

 

[Picton]

boo you. first you alter the sex, then set that thing on a life-long required supply of meds.
when done at age of 8 or 9 - you look here at millions of $ per body in medical payments over the lifetime. it is more profitable than cancer.

I'm not sure what age it should occur at. It probably differs, case-by-case.

Like almost every other health procedure, I'd leave this up to the patient, their doctor, and their family, and the rest of us would all butt out. Especially the government. But I understand not everyone shares my views.

 

[paul73]

I'm not sure what age it should occur at. It probably differs, case-by-case.

Like almost every other health procedure, I'd leave this up to the patient, their doctor, and their family, and the rest of us would all butt out. Especially the government. But I understand not everyone shares my views.

the government is nothing more now than an enforcement arm of its sponsors - and those who own them are just doing that is profitable. they injected you with all the shit they had, now they will continue to cut off genitals off kids. all that is perfectly logical if you start tracing the money and who the lobbyists are and how the hiring procedures for most government overlooking agencies operate.

 

[heck ya beaches]

I'm not sure what age it should occur at. It probably differs, case-by-case.

Like almost every other health procedure, I'd leave this up to the patient, their doctor, and their family, and the rest of us would all butt out. Especially the government. But I understand not everyone shares my views.

we have laws to protect children because some parents think it's fine to sell their kids' bodies for sex. i'm generally libertarian, but if we give the state monopoly on justice, we need some option to protect kids from monsters.

 

[Picton]

we have laws to protect children because some parents think it's fine to sell their kids' bodies for sex.

I'm not sure where you got that from what I wrote. That's not even remotely what I'm talking about. I'm talking about medical procedures...

 

[paul73]

I'm not sure where you got that from what I wrote. That's not even remotely what I'm talking about. I'm talking about medical procedures...

same thing - as parent selling kids for sex or government deciding to cut off their reproductive organs to take them out of breeding pool to prevent overpopulation of the planet.
the same process, really, just 2 different extremes of it.