Btw, I have seen at this point hundreds if not more failure to fire followed by a repeat double action hammer strike- various shooters and guns- and the rate of success has been statistically insignificant- literally half a dozen ignitions and mostly because the shooter knows his gun has an ongoing light primer strike problem. So I wholeheartedly agree that hitting a failed primer again is a sucker’s bet
-
If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for a NES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over.
-
Be sure to enter the NES/Pioneer Valley Arms April Giveaway ***Smith & Wesson SD9VE 9MM***
Bodyguard 2.0
- Thread starter btnh6668
- Start date
pastera
NES Member
If I get a dud with a double strike capable gun at the range, I will give the round another hit after waiting a second or so.
But that's a deliberate action to avoid dropping a "live" round on the ground.
However, if I'm shooting a drill then it gets cleared as expeditiously as safely possible.
The military is unique. They safeguard ammo more than the weapons.
Combat arms frequently sign their rifles out for training around the unit areas. Battle drills and such, often involving aiming the rifles at people. Same thing with training using blanks. The catch is that there isn’t a live cartridge anywhere near them. The ammo is locked away in hardened ammo supply points. None in the unit areas.
I prefer a manual safety as well. I completely see the downsides. I still carry the 1st pistol I bought(sw ez 380
) daily unless pocket carry day, then 365. Ez has a large safety, practice disengaging through cover garment, worked great the 1 time things were looking fukky. It works for me, I'd have no concern going no manual.
I really dislike .380 as a caliber, and this thing feels good enough that I overlooked that.
to me the original bodyguard misses the goldilocks zone of concealed carry. its small enough to carry easily, but too small to actually want to take to the range and train with, the 2.0 fixes that, its small but really comfortable.
to me the original bodyguard misses the goldilocks zone of concealed carry. its small enough to carry easily, but too small to actually want to take to the range and train with, the 2.0 fixes that, its small but really comfortable.
380’s biggest problem is that the JHPs rarely penetrate deep enough for statistical effectiveness (unless they petal out minimally). And the FMJs, while they penetrate, are just FMJs.
Take a look at the Lehigh solid copper options. Ignore the marketing fluff. Lots of people put very amazing looking gel results with big temporary cavities that don’t mean anything for any common pistol cartridges.
Rather, the benefits are objectively as follows:
- Reliable penetration to the optimum FBI depth without over-penetrating
- Barrier blind, wood, sheet metal, clothing, etc will not clog it up like a JHP
- In hunting testing using larger caliber versions of this type of bullet, there was more tissue damage than you’d get from an FMJ bullet. As much as a JHP? No idea. But more than FMJ.
380 ACP 68gr. Xtreme Defender Solid Monolithic Hunting & Self Defense Ammo
All normal pistol cartridges suck at killing people and hitting the vitals or CNS is far more important than whether the crush diameter is .357” or .58” or .75” of JHP petal expansion.
That might make a difference back at the hospital, but the only thing that matters on the street with the threat in front of you, is a vital zone hit. Doesn’t matter if it’s 380, 9mm, or 45.
btnh6668
NES Member
Hopefully I'll have a review soon
Sf Becket
NES Member
I rented one down in Connecticut. It’s very accurate for a tiny pistol. The high grip angle reduces felt recoil so it’s much more pleasant to shoot than the original BG or an LCP. My only complaints about it are that loading the pistol is difficult after 7 rounds ( it’s a 10 round magazine) and the one I fired had a safety which I can do without
btnh6668
NES Member
Got off my first 50 rounds today. While I don't have big hands this gun feels great in my hand. For a small gun it does not feel snappy at all. The recoil is easily controllable. Grouped pretty good considering I'm not a great shot. Only complaint is the same one many others had which is the gun shooting left. Many of the rear sights were not centered. Other than that I love this little gun. Ill be selling my p238 since it no longer serves a purpose. After firing 400 more rounds, this will definitely be my new pocket carry.
Do those Xtreme defender bullets feed well in the bodyguard 2.0?
I can’t believe I’m saying this but I had been considering getting one of these for occasional pocket carry when I’m out with the fam but there seems to be some QC issues
Sights off center and next to impossible to drift
Recoil spring assembly binding up
Feed ramp issue/lip causing rounds to hang up (mainly JHPs and flat point bullets)
I don’t really want to spend $500 and deal with that crap. At the same time I have no guns in 380 and was never a fan but wouldn’t mind something smaller (and lighter) than my P365
I’m not sure. I’ll probably pick one up when they’re available in MA, but I didn’t get one in time before frame transfers ended. I’ll have to look more into the QC issues.
My guess is they’d feed fine. I’ve never had feeding issues with Lehigh XDs from any of my pistols, even when trying them from my SP5. Some say MP5s can have trouble feeding JHPs, but I guess I haven’t seen that either.
Sf Becket
NES Member
I saw a video on YouTube regarding feeding issues. The barrel ramp meets a portion of the frame which the bullets feed through causing a slight lip. The flat nosed bullets such as WWB were the ones that were hanging up on it
At our shop, we love the BG 2.0. It feels good in hand, is noticeably smaller than a Shield or 365, and it's sized for its purpose; small and covert. Easy to pocket carry, too. Make sure you test your carry ammo against any feed ramp issues.
-JR
-JR
I was sure that I wanted one ............... then I tried it at Manchester Firing Line and was sure I didn't. It's not the soft shooter some of the reviews make it out to be, and it's difficult to rack the slide if you've got strength issues (which I do). My opinion is that it's a good gun, just that it's not the solution for folks with strength issues or hand disabilities.
gerrycaruso
NES Member
I've shot both and the new one is a definite improvement. I have a new lcp max that I've never fired. I suppose I should see if it works and how it shoots compared to the new bodyguard.
Endangered
NES Member
- Joined
- Feb 13, 2021
- Messages
- 208
- Likes
- 339
I bought one a little while back and love it. I have previously run a ruger LCP (1st gen.380) for years pocket carry, then my wife took that and I ran a bodygaurd 1 because she didn't like it. I liked the LCP better than the bodygaurd 1. The bodyguard 2.0 is better than both. Feels way batter in my hand, grip is better, it is way easier to shoot quickly and repeatedly, sights are better, etc. I can run my dueling tree about 1.5x as fast with the 2.0 as I can with the 1 or the lcp.
I only have a couple hundred rounds on it at this point, but I feel comfortable enough to carry it. It is not the same as a normal compact 9 or anything larger, but for this size firearm, it is better than most. I have not run JHP through it, only FMJ.
I only have a couple hundred rounds on it at this point, but I feel comfortable enough to carry it. It is not the same as a normal compact 9 or anything larger, but for this size firearm, it is better than most. I have not run JHP through it, only FMJ.
Liberty Ammo Civil Defense. .380 Archives
- Joined
- Nov 16, 2014
- Messages
- 30,970
- Likes
- 41,856
I saw that one too...made really not want it.
That plus only 10 rds i was hoping for 15 with the size of the gun
Similar threads
