-
If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for a NES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over.
-
Be sure to enter the NES/Pioneer Valley Arms April Giveaway ***Smith & Wesson SD9VE 9MM***
Comm2A, SAF, GOAL and FPC file against Baker admin on shop closures
- Thread starter Comm2A
- Start date
I'm just wondering why they didn't bring up that another pandemic, not covid19, is almost certainly going to happen in the future, leaving them to once again restrict the gin shops. Focusing on just covid19 seems a bit limiting.
Editor
NES Member
The Volstead Act was repealed.
Dadstoys
NES Member
I have a hard time deciphering legalise , but it sure seems like they have a solid argument that they would do it agian in a heartbeat.
SFC13557
NES Member
Nothing will happen, this is the PRM. Our Overlords have total power over us serfs and they know it. No Democracy in this State for us Joe's and Jane's.
- Joined
- May 1, 2009
- Messages
- 2,421
- Likes
- 3,869
When the census taker knocks on my door asking for personal information, I feel like griping to her about Gov Charlie Parker closing the 2A civil right gun stores.
But then I realize that the census taking is Federal level not State and I'm SOL.
But then I realize that the census taking is Federal level not State and I'm SOL.
- Joined
- Jan 5, 2008
- Messages
- 8,488
- Likes
- 6,401
It continues. The Commonwealth is trying to get the case dismissed. No dates have been set for future hearings. I'll try to keep up with the docket.
There’s plenty of Majority Rule Democracy in MA, and nowhere near enough Constitutional Republic rule..
I just realized after reading something that Massachusetts is in a "State of Emergency". I had no idea.
Anyhow, I went to COVID-19 State of Emergency and did not see anywhere that gun shops were to reopen. Should that be under "Rescinded Orders"?
What about firearms licensing?
How do those get listed there?
Anyhow, I went to COVID-19 State of Emergency and did not see anywhere that gun shops were to reopen. Should that be under "Rescinded Orders"?
What about firearms licensing?
How do those get listed there?
I really don't think the state cares about us.
That being said, if I read the various orders correctly, COVID-19 Order No. 13 was the one which was used to close gun shops, along with many other businesses. This order was rescinded by Order No. 37. However. somewhere along the line I seem to recall some legislator getting involved and urging the state to allow gun shops to open, but I cannot confirm that.
As far as licensing, that seems to be an individual department decision, not a state mandate.
Is this what you were looking for? This is linked from the DCJIS Firearms Resources page
McCarthy v. Baker et al.-Preliminary Injunction Order May 7, 2020..pdf | Mass.gov
But you're right, if they were being open and above-board they could include it with the other Covid information.
[Edit]
I used feedback function on the website to suggest they include it:
"This page should also include the link to the preliminary injunction that allowed firearm dealers to reopen. Without it the information on this page presents an incomplete picture. Thanks!
McCarthy v. Baker et al.-Preliminary Injunction Order May 7, 2020..pdf | Mass.gov"
COVID Order no. 33 , signed by Baker on 5/18/20, allowed gun retailers and ranges to reopen
See https://www.mass.gov/doc/may-18-2020-re-opening-massachusetts-order/download
I love that they point to a High Standard .22 Revolver listing on NES as "proof" that the 2nd Amendment was not impacted because Wally World had .22LR ammo still.
So, what is the actual status? Is there now a ruling that they have to be allowed to open? Is there anything currently which is telling them to close? Talking Massachusetts at the moment.
F C B
Ah, yes! The ol' F C B trick. Oldest one in the books. Gets 'em every time!
71montess
NES Member
Not even with yours.
Dennis in MA
NES Member
- Joined
- Feb 12, 2007
- Messages
- 41,241
- Likes
- 36,788
Would you believe a shoulder shrug and a WTF, Chief?
GM-GUY
NES Member
Posted April 2020
I thought I would bring this back to remind everyone how ‘it won’t get any worse’ and I’ll buy that stuff later (the router is still available
)
Get off your butt and get prepared folks
In light of this thread:
1) Get off your ass, buy a completed upper, a lower parts kit, an 80% lower and ammo from Target Sports.
80 Lower Jig | 80 Percent AR Lower Receiver Jig Kits
Whether it's for an AR-15, AR-10 or AR-308, we offer a range of quality lower receiver jigs. Browse the selection of 80% lower jigs available at 5D Tactical today!www.5dtactical.com
1.25-HP Variable Speed Fixed Corded Router https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-1-25-HP-Variable-Speed-Fixed-Corded-Router/3316758
5.56MM NATO AMMO
5.56mm NATO ammo for sale at Target Sports USA. Enjoy free shipping on bulk 5.56mm NATO ammunition for sale online.|^||^|www.targetsportsusa.com
2) Don’t play that lesser of two evils anymore. Faker intentionally, willfully and with malice, boned many businesses and you with the intent to deprive you of your rights and limit them going forward.
3) After you complete the above
GST-9 | 80% Glock Compatible Lowers & Parts | 5D Tactical
The GST-9 was developed by 80% Arms over a two-year process to find what people wanted the most from an 80% Pistol. Every detail was painstakingly run across focus groups, torture tested, and opinions given by both professional shooters and everyday range goers. The top priority was the ability...
BassPro in Hooksett for Mags or Internet order 10 rounders
WILLFUL CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE IS PAST DUE
I thought I would bring this back to remind everyone how ‘it won’t get any worse’ and I’ll buy that stuff later (the router is still available
)Get off your butt and get prepared folks
All that was pre-Bruen. It wouldn't fly for a hot minute now. But you should still get off your ass.
pastera
NES Member
Go read h4885 and tell me the same thing
No that's a whole-nother thread
How is Bruen helping us in Massachusetts now with this new legislation? Yeah maybe 5+ years from now it may make a difference in some long drawn out court case but in the interim it’s not doing anything substantial.
Anyone thinking Bruen is going to save us is delusional. Look at how many people on here are worried about making sure all their firearms are registered even though the system hasn’t been built yet. The vast majority of gun owners in this state do not have the desire to stand up and defend their God-given, Constitutionally protected rights.
pastera
NES Member
Bruen has already produced several district level cases on out of staters possessing while traveling - and 4885 contains an exemption now that was highly likely to have been influenced by those cases.
Then step up to the SJC implementation/interpretation of Breun in Canjura
Things are in motion
I agree, I’m not doubting the impact Bruen will have in the long run. But for the time being we are going to have to live with the potential consequences of this legislation.
My point was that the politicians weren’t dissuaded by Bruen to pass this type of legislation and the courts didn’t drop a ruling out of the sky and put an injunction in place immediately.
pastera
NES Member
This legislation was punishment for Bruen and an attempt to shift the baseline to a point where we would be happy with just returning to what we had before.
I want my whole cake back, bitch.
