Democrats and Guns

I would like to see the democratic party separate its self from gun control and the ultimate removal of guns. It kills me that wanting a healthier, better educated society that takes care of its elderly has to be bundled with gun control. The trend of uncontrolled illegal immigration causing higher crime supports the need for law abiding citizens to have guns more than ever.

Do the words "Don't wanna, can't make me" mean anything to you control-mongering progressives? If you want to be healthy and educated it's none of my business, and certainly not my requirement to pay for it.
 
Go ahead - name me ONE thing government is doing that the private industry isn't doing cheaper and better.

While I agree with most of what you say, I can name one thing. The Bailout. Looks like the private industry wasn't doing that cheaper.
 
To imply that Gun Control is the only thing that the Dems get wrong just isn't true. This is not to say that the Republicans are much better, but at the current time, it's not the Republicans who are using backdoor deals and bribes to try to jam legislation down the throats of citizens who have said they don't want it.

If they had the majority, they probably would be. It might not be healthcare, but politicians are always trying to look like they're solving some problem, or accomplishing some great thing, and they usually do that by proposing and passing legislation.

The grass always looks greener.
 
Got to love that Keynesianism is still alive and well despite the fact that Hayek destroyed Keynes and was awarded the Nobel Prize for it.

FDR did not bring anybody out of any depression.
War is not an economic stimulant.
 
I think I will stick with good old George Washington on Poltical Party's

"The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty"
 
I think I will stick with good old George Washington on Poltical Party's

"The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty"

So the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many, or the few. Heh.
 
If they had the majority, they probably would be. It might not be healthcare, but politicians are always trying to look like they're solving some problem, or accomplishing some great thing, and they usually do that by proposing and passing legislation.

The grass always looks greener.

I made sure to put "at the current time" in there. I don't absolve the Republicans of this type of behavior at all. Neither major party has done anything extraordinary in the past 20 years at least. Both of them are caught up in the mentality that they can count on everyone in their own party to vote for their ideas, and against the other guy's. Both parties need to learn that they don't represent the president, they don't represent the majority or minority leaders, and they don't represent each other. They represent EVERYONE in their district.
 
it's a proven fact that every single democrat dodged the draft, and every single republican can see russia from his house.
 
I would like to see the democratic party separate its self from gun control and the ultimate removal of guns.

There are numerous pro-gun Democrats in Congress or else they would have passed more anti-gun legislation already. Who votes for gun control has more to do with what part of the country they live in then whether there is a D or R after their name.
The CT State Legislature has a veto proof majority in both houses right now, it is the pro-gun Democrats in the CT State Legislature that are protecting gun owners in CT, not the Republicans.

And just because the anti gun Democrats are more vocal then the pro gun Democrats in Congress doesn't mean they have the votes to push their anti gun agenda.
 
The current incarnation of the DNC & it's further left affiliates may be Americans , but they are disloyal to the founding principles of the country.

Republicans aren't much better , lately. But they ARE better.

Socialism has given the human race over a hundred million dead in 100 years.
 
There are numerous pro-gun Democrats in Congress or else they would have passed more anti-gun legislation already. Who votes for gun control has more to do with what part of the country they live in then whether there is a D or R after their name.
The CT State Legislature has a veto proof majority in both houses right now, it is the pro-gun Democrats in the CT State Legislature that are protecting gun owners in CT, not the Republicans.

And just because the anti gun Democrats are more vocal then the pro gun Democrats in Congress doesn't mean they have the votes to push their anti gun agenda.

With regards to the CT Legislature..very true..Our Gov has an R after her name and would sign any anti gun legislation that hits her desk...We have enough Pro Gun Dems to keep it from hitting her desk.
 
The unions that are supported by the liberal democrats strengthen education by insisting wasteful stuff like fisting and "Heather has 2 Mommies" be taught at the expense of English, Economics, Reading ,etc. They preach profits are evil but not as evil as God. Nothing says keep the nation strong like cutting the military to the bone.

Of course we also have evil Republicans that are all out against guns...Cellucci and Romney just to name a few close to home.
It kills me that democrats have used the mantra of "wanting a healthier, better educated society" to accomplish the exact opposite while eroding rights and demanding more of our tax dollars to do it. I'm not saying the Republicans are any better, but to assume the Democratic party is the only one that can save society is gullible at best. Check out independent candidates and vote on issues, not party lines. It will be amazing what the political process can accomplish if the voters would get out of the mindset of "this party good... that party baaaaaad!" [wink]
 
Coming back to FDR bringing us out of the great depression, here's a very interesting article....

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx
Indeed, it one of the best kept non-secrets of economics... [sad2]

Yet we continue operating on this model - even as we now pray for the Japan "lost decade" as the best-case scenario for our current situation. That after 2 years of saying it couldn't happen here...

See what abandoning corporal punishment gets us? [laugh]
 
Bogview:

WHAT?!?! Do you just regurgitate what is fed to you by the media? FDR decidedly DID NOT "end the Great Depression". Economic indicators used at the time demonstrate that the U.S. was still mired in economic depression as late as 1939. As an example, unemployment actually increased to approx. 19% in 1939, well into the New Deal.

Increased manufacturing from the period of 1939-1941 associated with a build-up in the armed forces (including military aid to our future allies) in preparation for the war that many saw coming was primarily responsible for starting the U.S. on the road to recovery.

These types of statements from people scare the crap out of me. Talk about the old adage "those that forget history are doomed to repeat it".
 
These types of statements from people scare the crap out of me. Talk about the old adage "those that forget history are doomed to repeat it".

You almost can't blame many for not knowing that, our schools don't teach it and others have no ambition to read about real history.

Hell, most haven't even read the Constitution.

It's amazing how truly ignorant our society is, if many knew as much about the founding principles of our country as they know about American Idol, I believe there would be far more anger than there is...
 
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