Dog attack - How would you handle?

A couple weeks ago, Mrs. M1911 and I went into a shop in Concord and I was attacked by the shop dog. He looked like some sort of lab / standard poodle mix. The head pats that I gave him turned into a 5 minute butt scratch (his back, right in front of his tail). I stopped scratching him and started to walk over to my wife, only to have him trot after me -- clearly, I wasn't finished. I spent the next 10 minutes with him leaning against my legs as I continued the butt scratch. Then suddenly, he had enough and trotted off to the back of the shop without even a thank you. 🐕
 
headednorth said:
Do owners expect others to magically know the dog is all bark and no bite? Why would someone think this behavior is ok? Kind of embarrassed the whole thing caught me off guard and they had moved on before managed to say anything. They were so blasé about it and looked like an otherwise normal couple so I was wondering if it was just me.
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One of the close calls I had was crossing paths with an old woman walking FIVE dogs, only 2 were leashed (park rules state that 3+ dogs requires all dogs leashed, but I'm not gonna Karen that). One of dogs runs up to me, mostly playful, but I still don't want some stranger dog jumping on me. I tell the woman to get her dog away from me. She goes "are you afraid of dogs? he's friendly". I go "I don't know that!". She goes "well I'm telling you he's friendly". I go "Who the hell are you?". At that point she's behind me.

Like you mentioned, these people assume that everyone else knows the behavior of their stranger dog, so they do nothing. It's really ignorant. Honestly, don't hold back on saucing. Nobody's gonna get charged for it, but it'll teach the dog owners a lesson. And if they threaten to call the cops, I'll call first, because they broke park rules and it'll be a citation for them at minimum. Gotta put your foot down at some point.
 
drgrant said:
"Spray them in the Anus, with OC!" -some guy on sigforum, circa 2005. 🤣
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I'm not ripping someones pants off to Sabre sauce their anus!
Oh wait... the dog's anus... yeah, that makes more sense.
SKumar said:
One of the close calls I had was crossing paths with an old woman walking FIVE dogs, only 2 were leashed (park rules state that 3+ dogs requires all dogs leashed, but I'm not gonna Karen that). One of dogs runs up to me, mostly playful, but I still don't want some stranger dog jumping on me. I tell the woman to get her dog away from me. She goes "are you afraid of dogs? he's friendly". I go "I don't know that!". She goes "well I'm telling you he's friendly". I go "Who the hell are you?". At that point she's behind me.

Like you mentioned, these people assume that everyone else knows the behavior of their stranger dog, so they do nothing. It's really ignorant. Honestly, don't hold back on saucing. Nobody's gonna get charged for it, but it'll teach the dog owners a lesson. And if they threaten to call the cops, I'll call first, because they broke park rules and it'll be a citation for them at minimum. Gotta put your foot down at some point.
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I don't know man... you might be a little bit of a Karen when it comes to dogs. [laugh]

Just bustin brother. Every one has their comfort level. I was attacked by my neighbors GS when I was a kid. Not bitten, attacked. Like 12 bites, pants shredded, blood everywhere, buncha stitches. I think I was 8. Took a long time to get over that. But now, I will even try to engage/ pet a grumpy dog. If they snap at me, I will bark back at them.
 
Interesting that this thread got bumped.

I went for a run this weekend same place I always do. I was wearing AirPods and didn’t notice a GSD that was running at me until their neighbors were in the yard yelling waving their arms.

Luckily the dog stopped short of me and just barked at me. Something tells me the neighbors don’t get along because they went at it when they came out to get their dog. Not even so much as an I’m sorry.

I will be running with pepper spray on me and also without noise cancelling on.
 
I love the internet bravado in this post.

I can see it now, from the original post, you carry a gun, draw said weapon to shoot a charging dog that is followed by owners (husband and wife). You take a shot at charging dog, owners don’t know who or what you are shooting at, they draw their weapons and return fire. In the end you may have hit the dog, or an owner, or a passerby and the return fire from the owners may have done the same. A cluster f in the making.
 
When I was working we used to test the pepperspray once a month to make sure it was good to go. Was at home outside and just as I gave a shot my pup ran around the corner right into the red cloud, he sneezed once and kept on trotting off to whatever he was going to do, seemed essentially unfazed. Maybe too many spicy table scraps
 
a few weeks ago our hound gets out thru the deck gate.. once he gets a varmint in his sights, he's off. He won't come when called, but eventually will come home. he's very nice and friendly, but barky and likes to play rough.. wife is tryin to get him back from the woods in the backyard.. I go to the front of the house to get him if he goes that way..

On the street, some lady is walking a full grown Rottie in one hand, and a baby carriage in the other. Our hound goes at the Rottie and the woman freaks.. "get your f***ing dog" over and over again.. finally she says she's gonna 'let (the Rottie) kill my dog".. In the heat of the moment, I respond "I'll put a bullet in it then".. I was not armed at the time. It was a response to her threat. She then proceeds to call the cops.

we get our dog back in the house. PD visit.. hesitantly, I talk to PD, tell them exactly what was said on both sides and they say stories match. They ask if I have guns, and LTC.. They have to file a report.. Animal control will investigate.... They never come by.. hopefully won't affect my renewal in 2027.

yeah. my bad (actually the wife had the gate open for a split second too long) for having the dog escape.. I get it.. The "what ifs" haunted me for about a week.
 
EMTDAD said:
a few weeks ago our hound gets out thru the deck gate.. once he gets a varmint in his sights, he's off. He won't come when called, but eventually will come home. he's very nice and friendly, but barky and likes to play rough.. wife is tryin to get him back from the woods in the backyard.. I go to the front of the house to get him if he goes that way..

On the street, some lady is walking a full grown Rottie in one hand, and a baby carriage in the other. Our hound goes at the Rottie and the woman freaks.. "get your f***ing dog" over and over again.. finally she says she's gonna 'let (the Rottie) kill my dog".. In the heat of the moment, I respond "I'll put a bullet in it then".. I was not armed at the time. It was a response to her threat. She then proceeds to call the cops.

we get our dog back in the house. PD visit.. hesitantly, I talk to PD, tell them exactly what was said on both sides and they say stories match. They ask if I have guns, and LTC.. They have to file a report.. Animal control will investigate.... They never come by.. hopefully won't affect my renewal in 2027.

yeah. my bad (actually the wife had the gate open for a split second too long) for having the dog escape.. I get it.. The "what ifs" haunted me for about a week.
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E collar.
Dogtra or E collar technologies.
Have someone knowledgeable help you introduce it CORRECTLY and put it on him whenever he’s outside.
Judging by your story, it will save his life one day.
The recall and leave it are the 2 most important things to teach him and him ignoring either one of them should never be an option.
Best of luck. 👍
 
LT5 said:
E collar.
Dogtra or E collar technologies.
Have someone knowledgeable help you introduce it CORRECTLY and put it on him whenever he’s outside.
Judging by your story, it will save his life one day.
The recall and leave it are the 2 most important things to teach him and him ignoring either one of them should never be an option.
Best of luck. 👍
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I worked in a repair shop and was going to bring my pup along, he was verbally trained to come when he was called and to 'drop' you could give him a hot dog and then say drop and he'd do just that. The uniform guy thought it was cool that he could give Max a whole bundle of red shop rags and he'd take them into the shop, except they'd end up where he liked to hang out, he didn't eat them just collect them. Years later being a neighborhood doggo, I could go outside and call loudly once, often I'd hear a single bark and Max would arrive a few minutes later at full steam.
 
EMTDAD said:
a few weeks ago our hound gets out thru the deck gate.. once he gets a varmint in his sights, he's off. He won't come when called, but eventually will come home. he's very nice and friendly, but barky and likes to play rough.. wife is tryin to get him back from the woods in the backyard.. I go to the front of the house to get him if he goes that way..

On the street, some lady is walking a full grown Rottie in one hand, and a baby carriage in the other. Our hound goes at the Rottie and the woman freaks.. "get your f***ing dog" over and over again.. finally she says she's gonna 'let (the Rottie) kill my dog".. In the heat of the moment, I respond "I'll put a bullet in it then".. I was not armed at the time. It was a response to her threat. She then proceeds to call the cops.

we get our dog back in the house. PD visit.. hesitantly, I talk to PD, tell them exactly what was said on both sides and they say stories match. They ask if I have guns, and LTC.. They have to file a report.. Animal control will investigate.... They never come by.. hopefully won't affect my renewal in 2027.

yeah. my bad (actually the wife had the gate open for a split second too long) for having the dog escape.. I get it.. The "what ifs" haunted me for about a week.
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Let me see if I have this straight, because normally you make sense.

Lady is walking her dog and her baby, in a public space, when her dog is suddenly attacked. Attacked long enough (because you were completely impotent in stopping it) for her to repeatedly demand that you get control of your vicious animal. Since you apparently had zero control of the beast, and were too irresponsible (as are many dog owners) to keep it restrained in the first place, she warned that she'd allow her dog to defend her, her baby, and itself. So you then threatened to shoot her dog? Why would you not think to eliminate the threat instead, which was your untrained, uncontrolled, unrestrained, vicious animal that only a moron would release in a public space?!

Swear to God, dog owners are even dumber than their goddam pets.
 
EMTDAD said:
yeah. my bad
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Glad you admitted it, but I'm with @tinhorn

She'd have been within her rights to set the Rottie on your pooch. She didn't know your dog was "just barky and likes to play rough;" that's not on her, and threatening to shoot her dog in retaliation is ridiculous.
 
tinhorn said:
Let me see if I have this straight, because normally you make sense.

Lady is walking her dog and her baby, in a public space, when her dog is suddenly attacked. Attacked long enough (because you were completely impotent in stopping it) for her to repeatedly demand that you get control of your vicious animal. Since you apparently had zero control of the beast, and were too irresponsible (as are many dog owners) to keep it restrained in the first place, she warned that she'd allow her dog to defend her, her baby, and itself. So you then threatened to shoot her dog? Why would you not think to eliminate the threat instead, which was your untrained, uncontrolled, unrestrained, vicious animal that only a moron would release in a public space?!

Swear to God, dog owners are even dumber than their goddam pets.
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thank you for the complement.. I hope you're never in the position where shit goes sideways, for whatever reason.. I'm sure you will always do/say/think the right thing. :rolleyes:

Picton said:
Glad you admitted it, but I'm with @tinhorn

She'd have been within her rights to set the Rottie on your pooch. She didn't know your dog was "just barky and likes to play rough;" that's not on her, and threatening to shoot her dog in retaliation is ridiculous.
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it's what popped out of my mouth as a reaction to her threat. I never said I was in the right here.
 
I have items on me when I was my dog with the true belief that I really don't want to kill a dog. I generally don't even want to injure it.

So when I walk my dog in the woods or anyplace that people may have off leash dogs, I have with me.

1) pepper spray. you can hose off both dogs without really needing to aim, since nobody is going to be permanently injured by it.
2) a heavy single piece trekking pole with no basket. It's got a pointy carbide tip that can be used to run something through if necessary, but I prefer to and have used it as a stick.

My dog runs off leash, but I call him back to me and hold his collar whenever we pass another dog. I had an off leash dog charge us while I was holding my dog by the collar. I whacked him across the head, he yelped and ran away. No harm done.

If he had avoided me or continued his attack, I'd probably have dropped the stick and gone to the pepper spray on my belt.

My mom had a pretty aggressive pit mix start harassing her while she was gardening a few years ago. She pepper sprayed him and it took him right down.

Ive also typically got a gun on me. But I really don't want to kill a dog if I can avoid it.

One other thing. You have a right to use deadly physical force to protect yourself. But you DO NOT have that right to protect your dog.

If you ever have to shoot a dog, it's because he made you fear for YOUR LIFE. Not for your dog's life.
 
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Dead hand full force punch to the sternum of the attacking dog.

Been through it once upon a time ago.

Your mileage may vary, I have been measured at 550 PSI somewhat recently. Hooray for stupid bone growth and shitty healing factors that build scar tissue like it is going out of style!
 
Darksideblues42 said:
Dead hand full force punch to the sternum of the attacking dog.

Been through it once upon a time ago.

Your mileage may vary, I have been measured at 550 PSI somewhat recently. Hooray for stupid bone growth and shitty healing factors that build scar tissue like it is going out of style!
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I think if they're using a hydraulic pressure gauge to measure your blood pressure, you might have a problem :)
 
I recently got bit walking by some off leash lap dog turd with legs. I considered punting the little shit 50 yards to its death but somehow felt bad at the idea of snapping its little old neck.

I wasn’t all that upset about the bite itself, not like it amputated my leg, but it did break the skin. Old lady owner was yelling at it while trying to convince me it wasn’t a bite but his nails that got me……she only took a breath when I told her it’s fine and just show me the rabbies tag.
 
I missed several times none of which I deserved.

Two Dykes arguing in a f***ing elevator and everybody gets maced.. in confined spaces It’s terrible. I’m always worried if I deploy the bear spray the winds gonna get me… which wouldn’t be end of the world compared to getting directly blasted with a hose of bear spray…. That’s why I prefer bullets.
 
TheGreekFreak said:
I recently got bit walking by some off leash lap dog turd with legs. I considered punting the little shit 50 yards to its death but somehow felt bad at the idea of snapping its little old neck.

I wasn’t all that upset about the bite itself, not like it amputated my leg, but it did break the skin. Old lady owner was yelling at it while trying to convince me it wasn’t a bite but his nails that got me……she only took a breath when I told her it’s fine and just show me the rabbies tag.
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And when it does it again and meets someone else’s dog and gets smoked or it bites another guy who’s not as forgiving as you and it gets stomped she’ll be screaming excuses and blaming everyone else.
99% of off leash dogs I see absolutely should be without a doubt on a leash.
 
LT5 said:
And when it does it again and meets someone else’s dog and gets smoked or it bites another guy who’s not as forgiving as you and it gets stomped she’ll be screaming excuses and blaming everyone else.
99% of off leash dogs I see absolutely should be without a doubt on a leash.
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Very true. My 90lb lab is off leash often but it took thousands of dollars in off leash e collar training + countless hours on my end to get him reliable enough.

Even so, I still don’t let him near kids or random people that may not like some unknown dog, friendly or not, coming up to them. He’s also still a goofy dog that can get excited so even with the collar I have to be on top of him just in case.

But those yappy purse dogs are borderline untrainable off leash. Alot of their owners don’t pay attention because they figure they’re harmless due to their size……but good luck dealing with it biting some kid. Ironically, it was near a playground too.
 

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