Guide to gun rights in your Massachusetts town

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So do they pick and choose who gets a LTC-A restricted and a LTC-B?
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Beat's the hell out of me.

I just thought I'd post info since I'm from the town. When Hudson changed from green to black a week or two ago I think it was from someone saying... I'm from another town, and I have a friend who's a LEO in another town and he said...
 
Jedhed said:
Beat's the hell out of me.

I just thought I'd post info since I'm from the town. When Hudson changed from green to black a week or two ago I think it was from someone saying... I'm from another town, and I have a friend who's a LEO in another town and he said...
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I'm glad the LTC lists are not public information for obvious reasons, but I bet in 95% of the red and black towns, if you could see who was getting ALP we'd all have a shit and the favoritism racket would be exposed.
 
Medford

I don't think I'm going to get class A carry in Medford. Anyone have any luck? It's already been about two weeks since I applied and I haven't been called yet for the "appointment".

Moving from NC to MA, things sure are different :)
 
skol said:
I don't think I'm going to get class A carry in Medford. Anyone have any luck? It's already been about two weeks since I applied and I haven't been called yet for the "appointment".

Moving from NC to MA, things sure are different :)
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most likely won't happen without a damned good reason, sorry [frown]
 
Had "the interview" with Canton PD today. It should remain black just like everyone described.

The LT was very pleasant through the entire interview. But she repeated that the chief's policy is that "NO LTC-A's for first time applicant and we'll grant you class B with TS restrictions for now. Come back in two years and we might give you an upgrade."
I gave a bit effort for further elaboration but figured it's fruitless trying the impossible.

Since I'm a glass-half-full type of guy, I'm just glad that I can start gun shopping in a few weeks. :)
 
DontForgetJune4th said:
Had "the interview" with Canton PD today. It should remain black just like everyone described.

The LT was very pleasant through the entire interview. But she repeated that the chief's policy is that "NO LTC-A's for first time applicant and we'll grant you class B with TS restrictions for now. Come back in two years and we might give you an upgrade."
I gave a bit effort for further elaboration but figured it's fruitless trying the impossible.

Since I'm a glass-half-full type of guy, I'm just glad that I can start gun shopping in a few weeks. :)
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LTC-B is the most worthless excuse for a permit ever! Knocks so many cool toys off the list! Never mind the fact that it allows some Anti Chief of Police to backhandedly propagate their political agenda while still being able to say "we give out permits!"
 
DontForgetJune4th said:
The LT was very pleasant through the entire interview. But she repeated that the chief's policy is that "NO LTC-A's for first time applicant and we'll grant you class B with TS restrictions for now. Come back in two years and we might give you an upgrade."
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And what would LT Nanny have done if you'd moved into town with, say, a CZ75 with 4 large cap mags? Confiscated them on the grounds that THEY don't know that you can be trusted with *gasp!* FIFTEEN round magazines? Like you're going to go juramentado on a bus full of nuns and schoolchildren because you've got an extra 5 rounds?

[puke2]
 
DontForgetJune4th said:
The LT was very pleasant through the entire interview. But she repeated that the chief's policy is that "NO LTC-A's for first time applicant and we'll grant you class B with TS restrictions for now.
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Typical Canton idiocy and obstructionism. While many towns restrict the first LTC, they do it as an A; not the impotent B. This allows the licensee to at least have "large capacity" mags for competition.
 
I can understand how it might be hard to press a chief who gives out restricted class A's, but exposing a chief who will only give out B's should be a lot easier. How can he justify this when even Boston gives out class A?
 
maybe a color change?

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Input. This list is based on the experiences of those who post here.
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don't know that I would classify Belmont as "green" - but I don't think it's "red" - more like whatever color signifies "depends on the applicant"

for anyone going in for a first time permit (anywhere for that matter) - it's worth your while to take the GOAL NRA Basic Pistol course, and also the GOAL "Art of Concealed Carry" (I think that course should be required for anyone with an LTC - if you haven't taken it - do it) - and attach that documentation to your application - the more you show you're serious, the less a town Chief of Police will regard you as a risk. Remember - you're an unknown to them. The more credentials, the better. Join a gun club too (so you have a place to practice) Might want to pick up some additional NRA credentials as well (Basic Rifle, basic Shotgun, etc.).

Of course - certain towns simply have blanket polices of restricted permits or denials - no matter what you do - but get that current information from a firearms attorney - not from hearsay - here or anywhere else.

If you are really serious about a first time permit, or you think there could be problems with a renewal - contact one of the firearms attorneys (GOAL will make recommendations). It may cost you a few bucks - but again - if you show that you're serious about it - that, and your other credentials, sends a message.

Sure - lots of people will complain that "it shouldn't be that way" - but this is Massachusetts - and it is. So if you want the permit - get with the program. Remember - you don't make the rules - they do.

It costs money to own a firearm (and live) in Massachusetts - in more ways than one. Not for nothing are people leaving the state. Even so, about 280,000 have current permits.

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As the Commonwealth's repository for firearms records, the Firearms Record Bureau (FRB) maintains a database of licenses issued including licenses to carry firearms (LTCs), Firearms Identification (FID) cards, gun dealer licenses, and machine gun licenses. The FRB also keeps records of firearms sales by gun dealers, as well as private transfers of weapons. As a result, law enforcement agencies have access to data on over 280,000 FID and LTC records and over 2 million gun transactions as an investigative tool.

In addition to processing about 4,000 records per week, the FRB is a valuable resource for the public and law enforcement agencies to answer questions regarding the Commonwealth's gun laws.

http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=eopster...&b=terminalcontent&f=chsb_frb_home&csid=Eeops
 
consultant said:
don't know that I would classify Belmont as "green" - but I don't think it's "red" - more like whatever color signifies "depends on the applicant"
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I'd consider that "red" IAW color definitions from the first post.

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Bold Green usually Issue "Class A" "All Lawful Purposes"

Bold Red May Issue and/or are difficult to obtain a "Class A" "All Lawful Purposes" usually give out restricted such as "Sport and Target"

Cities in Bold Black are almost Impossible or impossible to Obtain a "Class A" usually issue a "Class B" or "FID"
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Dartmouth SHOULD be Green. You're not getting it in Dartmouth if you have a bad record. The only license they issue in Dartmouth is a Class A LTC All Lawful Purposes. New Bedford should be Black because they only issue All Lawful Purposes if you're an LEO or a Marine. I've lived in both. Anyone want to debate that PM me.
 
Ma**h*** said:
Dartmouth SHOULD be Green. You're not getting it in Dartmouth if you have a bad record. The only license they issue in Dartmouth is a Class A LTC All Lawful Purposes. New Bedford should be Black because they only issue All Lawful Purposes if you're an LEO or a Marine. I've lived in both. Anyone want to debate that PM me.
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you really mean new Bedford should be red, not black, since they still give LTC-A, it is just restricted.

I would take a look at Type's reply to you, you may not have all the info....
 
Hi - I'm new to the forum and interested in getting more into shooting. I've had an FID for some time and am interested in upgrading to a CCW. Does anyone have any recent experience in Harvard, MA?

Thanks,
Bill Mason
 
Thanks

Thanks a lot for the reply - before I go in, I'm trying to get a feel for whether there are usually hoops to jump through to get the "All Lawful Purposes" license or if a clean background and requesting one is all you need.
 
Anyone have any RECENT experience in Georgetown? Mine is due in 2 months. I went down and picked up a package today. Under requirements for a Class A:

"3. Obtain a letter from their employer stating the reasons they wouldneed to carry a weapon for work-related purposes. If self-employed, a letter on their letter head describing the reason that the carrying of a firearm is necessary. If the reason for the need to carry were not of a work-related nature, a letter explaining the need would have to be submitted."

We have a new Chief since I last renewed. I haven't heard of anyone having problems, but this has my stomach in a knot. Anyone have any recent experiences?
 
Anyone have experience in Harvard, MA?

Hi, i'm new to the forum and wil be trying to get an "All Lawful Purposes" LTC in Harvard, MA. Does anyone have any recent experience in Harvard?

EDIT: I had originally posted this in another thread in the wrong place. I didn't notice that it had already been moved over here and I apologize for the double post.
 
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billyma123 said:
Hi, i'm new to the forum and wil be trying to get an "All Lawful Purposes" LTC in Harvard, MA. Does anyone have any recent experience in Harvard?

EDIT: I had originally posted this in another thread in the wrong place. I didn't notice that it had already been moved over here and I apologize for the double post.
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Using current LTC terminology, what you are actually looking for is an Unrestricted Class A LTC. We don't call this an ALP license anymore.
 
does anyone know if Milton is still a green town? Possibly looking at condos there, and as of now, my choice towns are Arlington, Melrose, Wayland and Milton (if it is green)
 
dixidawg said:
Anyone have any RECENT experience in Georgetown? Mine is due in 2 months. I went down and picked up a package today. Under requirements for a Class A:

"3. Obtain a letter from their employer stating the reasons they wouldneed to carry a weapon for work-related purposes. If self-employed, a letter on their letter head describing the reason that the carrying of a firearm is necessary. If the reason for the need to carry were not of a work-related nature, a letter explaining the need would have to be submitted."

We have a new Chief since I last renewed. I haven't heard of anyone having problems, but this has my stomach in a knot. Anyone have any recent experiences?
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From the Georgetown students I've had over the past year - I haven't heard of one that didn't get their Class A. Don't sweat it.
 
Hi,
I have a friend who lives in Littleton and is about to apply for a Class A Unrestricted.
He has a clean record and has been living there for a few years. What are his chances?
Thanks,
Red
 
red river riff said:
Hi,
I have a friend who lives in Littleton and is about to apply for a Class A Unrestricted.
He has a clean record and has been living there for a few years. What are his chances?
Thanks,
Red
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Only thing found about Littleton was
EddieCoyle said:
Littleton requires three letters of reference stating:

http://www.littletonma.org/content/53/121/2190/2204/default.aspx
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Uncle Ogre said:
I just got my LTC-A no restrictions from Littleton. The letters are only if you are a new applicant or "upgrading". I don't know what upgrading means, since I had a LTC-B (yeah, yeah, I know... I was uneducated at the time), and I didn't have to submit anything other than standard form.
I also did not have to submit any extra letters 4 years ago for the LTC-B. When I applied I was told that they don't issue LTC-Bs at all anymore. Not sure why they've added the extra paperwork; the COP hasn't changed, and I think they're pretty green overall.
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sounds confusing tho
 
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