Well considering the fact that I could tell from first glance that you didn’t write it, I’d say so. You need to make your letter personal to you. The legislators here unfortunately don’t give two shits about how unconstitutional the bill is or how it grants too much power to the government. Give them some of your personal pain points and how the bill will affect you specifically. The letter doesn’t need to be a long drawn out thing, just keep it brief.
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HD.4420 State House and Boston Common Rally
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Wow.
Wow indeed. Follow the KISS principle. Handwrite your letter if possible, adds a special feel to it. Again, doesn’t need to be long. They’re probably not going to read the whole thing anyway. They’re just going to see that you oppose the bill and add it to the tally. You could probably even write down on a napkin “I oppose HD.4420” and mail that in tbh.
Realistically, writing letters shouldn’t be your only method of communication with your legislators either. Call them. Try to meet with them in person if you can. If you can’t schedule a time to go to their office and meet with them, lots of them attend public events you could probably catch them at. The point is you need to exhaust every method of communication possible.
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Someone on the thread asked for a a template they could use. The more letters submitted, the better--so if the template incentivizes more to submit--then great. It's not long and drawn out--it's intelligent and well formulated--in language they speak and understand. Effective persuasion requires you to understand your audience.
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Do you work for GOAL?
Which you don’t. The reps themselves aren’t going to read the letters, their aides will and just add you to the tally. You’re just wasting time.
No I don’t. However, GOAL has explicitly told people not to use form letters or templates for writing their representatives. They’ve given people the exact same advice I just gave you. Write your own personal letter and don’t use a template. If anything, templates and form letters hurt the cause. They see the fact that you didn’t care enough about the issue to write your own letter and decide it must not be that important of a bill anyway.
Point out the comment where they asked since it seems like you don’t know how to use the reply button. This thread for the last week or so has been all about the rally, I don’t remember seeing a comment from anyone asking for help writing a letter in a long time. Are you living your life in a delay?
Doesn’t take much investigation. I was being generous when I said a week. Realistically it’s been closer to a couple of months since people were asking for help writing letters. If you’re only just now at the letter writing stage, HD.4420 will have already been passed and signed into law by the time you find time in your busy schedule and meet/call your rep.
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I do wish there was a zoom contingent for those of uswho cant get the day off but would still love to attend.Making this a separate thread so folks can hopefully coordinate meetings, rideshare, etc. We have GOT to show up for this one, folks. The opposition is already scheduling a State House day to push this abomination down our throats.
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Event Details:
Wednesday, September 27th, 2023
Starting at 11AM at the Parkman Bandstand - eastern side of the Boston Common
At 1PM we'll move into the State House
Map of the Boston Common and location of the Parkman Bandstand
See you there!
This fight is not over!
GOAL - BringBruentoBoston
www.goal.org
Mesatchornug
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Naw, man i think you've got this one wrong.
A relatively new, low post count member helicopters in with a double post of a chat-gpt form letter (on a thread that has only ever been about a rally) then gets butt hurt when he's not treated as a hero.
Totally legit.
Roadglide
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Rockrivr1
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Once again proving that NES members will fight about anything. How about we just show up, write our representatives and then visit them after the rally.
Otherwise enjoy fighting about whether a
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Jeezus.
Otherwise enjoy fighting about whether a
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GL2020
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Ride the redline 3 times a week (Was 5 before Covid shutdowns)
It’s not that bad, especially during business hours. You’re nowhere near “bad neighborhoods” we hear about. Between Alewife and JFK there is no place I wouldn’t walk around in. Some sketchy stuff to the south where redline splits but nowhere near where the rally is.
in 10 years I think I’ve played the “unidentified liquid” game 3 times. And it was on the floor. People spill stuff…it happens
GL2020
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Dress a bit. How many troublemakers have on a pair of pants (that weren't denim) and a collared shirt with maybe a sportscoat?
That's all it takes to look like your're not part of any potential "troublemakers". There's also the option to just walk away if trouble starts. You're not stuck there...walk away. I have a 6th sense for when SHTF in a public setting and usually make my exit about 2 minutes before.
mothybee
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I guess the esteemed senator from Pa. can't attend.
GL2020
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For anyone debating driving vs mass transit, I'd suggest conquering those fears and taking transit. Wednesday is one of the WORST days to get into our out of the city and once you do, parking sucks the big one.
Many offices are hybrid now and human nature pushes people to not going into the office on Mondays and Fridays. Judging by the parking lots at the commuter rail and comments from coworker who chose to drive, Wednesday and Thursday suck all around for traffic. The only thing that helps is the rally is a bit later that morning rush hour
Some of the trains that come from the North stop at Porter Sq and it's an easy transfer to the the Redline.
If not, At North Station hop on the Orange Line (toward Forrest Hills) to Downtown Crossing and a 4 min walk.
From Framingham/Worcester and all points South the trains go to South Station and It's no more that a 15 minute walk from there. Redline for 2 stops if you want but you can probably walk faster. Don't believe the hype about Downtown crossing. It's fine during the day...full of people coming and going to work/lunch. Walked through with my wife 3pm just last week. She was not at all concerned
If anyone needs any help feel free to PM me and I'll even give you my cell to text in real time if you need help.
There are also several pub/resturants on Charles street (and the common in general) serving brew for relaxation later
Many offices are hybrid now and human nature pushes people to not going into the office on Mondays and Fridays. Judging by the parking lots at the commuter rail and comments from coworker who chose to drive, Wednesday and Thursday suck all around for traffic. The only thing that helps is the rally is a bit later that morning rush hour
Some of the trains that come from the North stop at Porter Sq and it's an easy transfer to the the Redline.
If not, At North Station hop on the Orange Line (toward Forrest Hills) to Downtown Crossing and a 4 min walk.
From Framingham/Worcester and all points South the trains go to South Station and It's no more that a 15 minute walk from there. Redline for 2 stops if you want but you can probably walk faster. Don't believe the hype about Downtown crossing. It's fine during the day...full of people coming and going to work/lunch. Walked through with my wife 3pm just last week. She was not at all concerned
If anyone needs any help feel free to PM me and I'll even give you my cell to text in real time if you need help.
There are also several pub/resturants on Charles street (and the common in general) serving brew for relaxation later
Mesatchornug
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Is the Green not running from North Station to Park right now?
GL2020
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It is, but you could skateboard faster.
I discourage the green line unless you need to go west from downtown and it's the only option. Anything...bus, orange line, walk.
Green line is the slowest most unreliable of all the transit lines. I avoid it at all costs.
Orange line to Downtown Crossing, and the Park St station is within sight when you look north (3-4 minute walk between DTX and Park...just walk north up Summer-Winter...you can even do it underground with the connector tunnel)
They're only a couple hundred yards apart
Orange line is mostly new cars now too
Heck I forgot those taking commuter rail into South Station don't even have to go that far. Can hop on Orange line at either Ruggles or BackBay and get off at DTX
If the old ladies with the rainbow pins can take the train to the climate change rally (and there were lots of them) I'm sure NES grumpy old guys can
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GL2020
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There is always the Boston Common Garage. I believe you can even book a spot ahead of arrival.
I've had good luck with the Post Office Square Lot (sits between Congress and Pearl streets not far from Quincy Market)
There is also a garage on Devonshire near downtown crossing I've used a few times...short walk from there
In a pinch, you can park at one of the Mass General lots/garages and just walk down Charles St. You'll pay a premium without validated parking, but it's fairly close.
Naw, man i think you've got this one wrong.
A relatively new, low post count member helicopters in with a double post of a chat-gpt form letter (on a thread that has only ever been about a rally) then gets butt hurt when he's not treated as a hero.
Totally legit.
Last 6 months of NES, a good chunk of the new members that post are either obvious sock puppet recycles or these weird leftist controlled op type things basically doing their best steve buscemi impression while simultaneously scoring a solid 10/10 on a dunning-kruger test about gun politics and law, if there ever was one...1
GL2020
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20 minutes? I could crawl on my hands and knees and stop for a beer along the way in 20 minutes.
Here's a map and a street view. You can see how close Park at Downtown Crossing are.
The street view is from DTX looking north up Winter St. If squint you can see the giant T in the distance. That's Park St station. They are literally that close. And the band stand is just a bit further to the left once you get to Park St
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Mesatchornug
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This poster is extra good. In 3 years, like 75% of posts are "in" on giveaways. Great contributor.
I think he was saying 20 minutes from North Station...
GL2020
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Ahhh my mistake. Misread that
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