LEOs are exempt all the time. They do not have to be on duty per MGL.
Thanks Len. I caught that after I pulled up the cite but was too lazy to edit.
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LEOs are exempt all the time. They do not have to be on duty per MGL.
Things in this state most likely wont change in large moves. It will be small moves to get to the bigger ones.
I'd like to see:
the end of the ag restrictions. This is already being worked on
end of mag restrictions. This could be postioned as class a is already for "large capacity" so this restriction should be removed.
Then assault weapon ban
There are a lot of squishy people who will help us if they don't have to come out and wave our flag in the process.^This
small changes so that the sheep don't get scared.
Things in this state most likely wont change in large moves. It will be small moves to get to the bigger ones.
I'd like to see:
the end of the ag restrictions. This is already being worked on
end of mag restrictions. This could be postioned as class a is already for "large capacity" so this restriction should be removed.
Then assault weapon ban
The "rational basis" for magazines is false too, but agreed, it will take more explanation to a clueless judge to explain and even more to an anti judge.The AWB is more likely to fall before the mag limits. There is little rational basis for the AWB.
The "rational basis" for magazines is false too, but agreed, it will take more explanation to a clueless judge to explain and even more to an anti judge.
The AWB is more likely to fall before the mag limits. There is little rational basis for the AWB.
I always thought that was common knowledge. Never carry reloads, or use them in a home defense firearm, just because that's one more thing an over zealous DA can use to screw you over. "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the defendant, Mr. Knfmn, was so blood thirsty that he spent hours meticulously choosing the most lethal hollow point bullets and loading his own ammunition to make sure that he would have the best chance of killing Mr. Victim, a poor youth who was just turning his life around after his 15th conviction and pursuing a career in hip hop." Not for me, thanks! I just buy and load factory stuff. I save the reloads for the range.Same with reloading. A local (Connecticut) self-defense attorney I know pointed out that using a reload in a self-defense situation, at least here in the less-than-free states, is likely to result in a judge, wide-eyed, looking at you and asking, "Wait, you MAKE YER OWN BULLITZ??!?"
I always thought that was common knowledge. Never carry reloads, or use them in a home defense firearm, just because that's one more thing an over zealous DA can use to screw you over. "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the defendant, Mr. Knfmn, was so blood thirsty that he spent hours meticulously choosing the most lethal hollow point bullets and loading his own ammunition to make sure that he would have the best chance of killing Mr. Victim, a poor youth who was just turning his life around after his 15th conviction and pursuing a career in hip hop." Not for me, thanks! I just buy and load factory stuff. I save the reloads for the range.
It's Sunday night....I'm not searching the Internet to find a court case. Do you really think that something which could be yet another liability in a shooting case is a good idea? I sure don't. It's worth the $1/rd to me to avoid ever having to worry about that aspect of it.Isn't that just an Ayoobism? Can anyone actually point to a court case in which it mattered?
Since mag limits are part of the AWB, what do you mean?
Are you saying that the restrictions on flash hiders and telescoping stocks and pistol grips et. al. could go away, while the 10 round limit for post '94 mags would stay in place?
Well, geez, this means Romney can't run!But elections matter. If a progun candidate is not elected to president in 2016, we are done for. And not just on this point. The whole thing comes crashing down.
Can you be any more optimistic?But elections matter. If a progun candidate is not elected to president in 2016, we are done for. And not just on this point. The whole thing comes crashing down.
Can you be any more optimistic?
That said, mag limits are related to the new push to criminalize "large capacity" firearms. That will be the antis downfall. Because they are basically saying any semi auto can be banned.
I think the antis are educating themselves about detachable magazines, though, in anticipation of FUDD backlash to 10-rd semiautos that effectively get reloaded one round at a time. In CT, the Sandy Hook "Grave Dancers Union" (side note, great Soul Asylum record from 1992) are pushing for this all-out ban, with a likely "compromise" being a method by which AR mags are not detachable "without tools" like the telescoping stocks. Oh, and mandatory registration, again.
And shouldn't Heller be enough to protect this? In the home, the right to self-defense can't be infringed. Limiting the ability to reload in a home invasion is severely infringing.
Since mag limits are part of the AWB, what do you mean?
I think the antis are educating themselves about detachable magazines, though, in anticipation of FUDD backlash to 10-rd semiautos that effectively get reloaded one round at a time. In CT, the Sandy Hook "Grave Dancers Union" (side note, great Soul Asylum record from 1992) are pushing for this all-out ban, with a likely "compromise" being a method by which AR mags are not detachable "without tools" like the telescoping stocks. Oh, and mandatory registration, again.
And shouldn't Heller be enough to protect this? In the home, the right to self-defense can't be infringed. Limiting the ability to reload in a home invasion is severely infringing.
I think our best hopes lie in litigation not legislation.
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But elections matter. If a progun candidate is not elected to president in 2016, we are done for. And not just on this point. The whole thing comes crashing down.
Compromise? How about we let the ban on full automatic continue a little longer, if they give us 30 rounds, flash hiders, and silencers? Deal?
Very much so, the next prez will be appointing 2 or maybe 3 SCOTUS members. One is likely a push (Ginsberg) but the others are not good. That fundamental right can quickly turn over with out "living" Constitution (read, illusory check on government).
I certainly am not advocating such a compromise, but CT is doubling down with Malloy's reelection.
Agreed. But we need to work the best angle, as well as all others at the same time.I think our best hopes lie in litigation not legislation.
This - all angles, all the time until they are tired of hearing about this and it becomes a third rail for a generation and the cycle will start again and eventually people will, once again be apathetic enough that the pro-slavery progressive crowd starts to ramp up again in a vacuum.Agreed. But we need to work the best angle, as well as all others at the same time.
This is legislation that is being proposed with the support(?) of GOAL.
http://www.goal.org/legislation.html
An Act Relative to Tax Exemptions on Gun Safes and Trigger Locks
This bill would exempt gun safes and trigger locks from Massachusetts sales tax. Click here for more information
An Act Relative to the Use of Shotguns for Hunting *NEW* (re-draft)
This legislation would re-write Section 66 of Chapter 131 of the General Laws concerning the use of shotgun ammunition for use in hunting. The section currently allows the use of shotgun slugs and buckshot to the open season on whitetail deer with a shotgun. With the modernization of hunting slugs many people would like to be able to use them for bear hunting. The legislation would simply rewrite the law to allow the Division of Fisheries and Wildlife to hold regulatory authority over it so that laws don’t need to be continually changed to keep up with ammunition technology. Click here for more information
Poking through this stuff, and saw:
Don't we ALREADY HAVE that exemption?MGL stuff said:An Act Relative to Tax Exemptions on Gun Safes and Trigger Locks
This bill would exempt gun safes and trigger locks from Massachusetts sales tax.
current law said:Section 6. The following sales and the gross receipts therefrom shall be exempt from the tax imposed by this chapter:--
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(rr) Sales of commercial gun safes and trigger lock devices.
It's probably time to start a new thread about new bills for 2015. Could be one or multiple threads, depending how we want to do it.
Very much so, the next prez will be appointing 2 or maybe 3 SCOTUS members. One is likely a push (Ginsberg) but the others are not good. That fundamental right can quickly turn over with out "living" Constitution (read, illusory check on government).