If All You Had Was A Pre-98 Glock 19 Gen 2... Could You Survive In Massachusetts?

[Rivers556]

If there were no new Glocks available by ANY means (FTF or Frame Game) - Could you survive???
I'd just like to know if only owning an old Glock (I know we can get newer ones) would put a person over the edge to move out of Massachusetts.

I'd say "no".

If you have a great job, home, family, and friends here in Massachusetts - I'd rather have all that rather than move away just to own a new Glock.

It would be a sad lonely life sitting in a new house with just Gen 5 and a new Noveske at the table and nothing else.

Even a Glock Gen 2 is better than some other newer manufacturers.

Could you survive with only a Gen 2 Glock?

Absolutely, great piece of hardware, and won’t randomly die on me.

 

[headednorth]

I have a good idea.
It’s shameful.
Yet, I don’t regret it much because those possessions made me so happy.
Now, if I instead put that all into gold or bitcoin it gets depressing.
At least it didn’t go into booze, hookers, and blow.
I guess that’s when you really are sick. When you don’t realize you are sick.

When I worked in property maintenance, occasionally people would pass and either their family would go through their stuff or, if they had no family, we would. Either way, 95% of what people own gets bagged up and thrown in a dumpster. Dont be the guy who leaves his family cursing him as they fill the dumpster in the driveway with "all his stupid crap".

 

[Reptile]

When I worked in property maintenance, occasionally people would pass and either their family would go through their stuff or, if they had no family, we would. Either way, 95% of what people own gets bagged up and thrown in a dumpster. Dont be the guy who leaves his family cursing him as they fill the dumpster in the driveway with "all his stupid crap".

I totally understand.
I hope to sell it all before I croak.
If not too bad.
It’ll still be worth their while to dispose of my stuff by throwing it all out. After they sell the house the profit will cover the time it takes to clean it out.

When I get dementia I still want to own my gun. I just won’t carry anymore.
As long as I’m not a hazard to myself or others, I think they’ll let me keep my stuff.

I’m hoping that in 30 years I’ll get $10,000 for a Noveske lower. Likely with inflation and dollar collapse.

 

[Varmint]

Oh.

I thought the hypothetical was "if you were stuck somewhere in Massachusetts armed with nothing but a '90s Glock, is that enough gun to help you escape the state?"

I like that hypothetical better. It's more entertaining.

I thought it was a zombie apocalypse thread, disappointed to find out it's not.

 

[Individualist]

All stupid aside, I’ve had a G19 gen 2 for decades. I could have bought a newer version, but never saw the need. It does what it’s supposed to do when I need it to.

 

[neum69]

So how can we stop the slow slide of NH toward communism?

 

[Mark from ?]

I have a sickness.

This…..every Reptile thread.

But ill bite.

Any one that cares about a stupid glock 19 has a gen 5 by now or 5 of them. . They arent going to follow any new laws and they aren’t getting rid of it.

No one moves just for guns especially a plastic pistol …..unless you have no life.

 

[Reptile]

This…..every Reptile thread.

But ill bite.

Any one that cares about a stupid glock 19 has a gen 5 by now or 5 of them. . They arent going to follow any new laws and they aren’t getting rid of it.

No one moves just for guns especially a plastic pistol …..unless you have no life.

Yeah, I guess as long as they don't get rid of FTF sales, there will be folks who have new in box G19 Gen 5's just waiting for a new home.

 

[Mark from ?]

When I worked in property maintenance, occasionally people would pass and either their family would go through their stuff or, if they had no family, we would. Either way, 95% of what people own gets bagged up and thrown in a dumpster. Dont be the guy who leaves his family cursing him as they fill the dumpster in the driveway with "all his stupid crap".

After moving and seeing my parents age. Half of the shit I had I never used. We have dumpstered a lot of stuff out of my parents house already.
Seeing my Dad age and his collection just sitting makes me realize this. As much as it hurts im trying to be proactive and will downsize his collection as much as I can soon.

Im downsizing most of my stuff and making my life simpler. Guns are tough because some are sentimental. But realistically if they never get used its money sitting there that in most cases could be used or invested.

I know a few guys their wives and kida are just gonna sell their shit for pennies on the dollar They have so much shit its overwhelming. Gun stuff being regulated just makes it even more difficult and easier to say F it…just get rid of it all.

Goal will be buy the free state tactical shit I need keep it in one bag. Keep guns I use. Sell and give my kids the rest. One safe. Thats it.

 

[Lank]

So how can we stop the slow slide of NH toward communism?

The slide to communism has been in progress since the 1980's.

 

[Boghog1]

we need a clown reaction

 

[jkelly1229]

Sure, All the electrics sure worked well during Helene
We'll let you take the first ride on the all new electric chopper during a storm

Will he be upgrading to the pinochet special?

 

[APFSDS]

Total off topic, but I just talked about it with solar salesman I got a contract with. Eversource has 0 reasons to increase actual power production as is a for profit operation and scarcity of a supply only increases prices while consumption and demand is not affected by price.

Invest to be self sufficient now, or suffer badly tomorrow, it only going to get much worse. Now we pay efficiently.34c per kW even with a reduced town rate of .15 per kW. Sales estimates they have show a .65c - $1 per kW in 10 years time.

Also total off topic, but the electricity and gas bill at my rental in NC is like 1/2 to 1/3 of what I pay here for electricity and oil. And property tax (which I don't pay but I know what it is) is like 1/5 of what I pay here. Can't wait to move back home.

 

[Mark from ?]

Also total off topic, but the electricity and gas bill at my rental in NC is like 1/2 to 1/3 of what I pay here for electricity and oil. And property tax (which I don't pay but I know what it is) is like 1/5 of what I pay here. Can't wait to move back home.

Same in FL....is why you don't see a lot of solar. Just not worth it when your paying low rates. Most of it is used for signage and places it makes sense. Like instead of having a state police cruiser sitting there making detail money on top of running a cruiser 24/7 iding........ they run a solar flashing traffic light or something for traffic control.......or flashing stop signs are solar...etc. There is definately enough sun for it down there.

My bill is 1/3 of what I paid in MA if you combine oil into it. And I have full time AC....up here I had zero AC and comfort in the summer. And if I did run the bedroom AC....fxcking paid thru the balls. I know people with small houses in Fitchburg up here that pay 500 a month. Princeton....full retard rates.

$500 is over half my yearly electric bill in FL.....and...they still have to buy oil on top. WTF! Response to being out of electricity down there...pretty amazing compared to up here as well.

 

[APFSDS]

Same in FL....is why you don't see a lot of solar. Just not worth it when your paying low rates. Most of it is used for signage and places it makes sense. Like instead of having a state police cruiser sitting there making detail money on top of running a cruiser 24/7 iding........ they run a solar flashing traffic light or something for traffic control.......or flashing stop signs are solar...etc. There is definately enough sun for it down there.

My bill is 1/3 of what I paid in MA if you combine oil into it. And I have full time AC....up here I had zero AC and comfort in the summer. And if I did run the bedroom AC....fxcking paid thru the balls. I know people with small houses in Fitchburg up here that pay 500 a month. Princeton....full retard rates.

$500 is over half my yearly electric bill in FL.....and...they still have to buy oil on top. WTF! Response to being out of electricity down there...pretty amazing compared to up here as well.

The "detail" stuff blew my mind when I moved here. Somehow 49 other states (I think) manage without it, but if you're doing construction here you have to pay overtime for a cop to stand around. They just have flaggers or the automated signs in NC unless it's major work on the interstate.

 

[pastera]

I guess that may be totally legit. You have a MA LTC. That's your gun you bought legally. The only reason you couldnt buy it in MA is because of stupid restrictions on the FFLs.

Ok, so let's take up an notch. Can a double resident buy a $30 anderson lower in NH, then sell it to an MA resident in an LTC-to-LTC private transaction?

No, because the AR lower is a banned copy or duplicate of an enumerated firearm.
And since that lower likely wasn't possessed legally in the state on 8/1 then it isn't exempt.

Difference is Glocks aren’t banned from possession - dealers are banned from transferring them to you.

 

[pastera]

That's a lot of assumptions. There can be a gas shortage too. I agree with what you're saying about the power grid, but that's speculation on the worst case scenarios at this point.

Knowing how the towns where I live actually share their ambulances, I think there may be some validity to what you're saying. In a perfect scenario the cars just stay in their area and then all that math makes sense. In reality they never have enough. I listen to their radios sometimes, they will often send a car 3-4 towns over because there are not enough of them.

Do you drive a BEV?
I do and I know it takes planning for anything more than 4 hours of driving (~200-230 miles).
That's without heat on and little sitting idle
And once you deplete the battery the most efficient charging regime is to charge enough for 2 hour drives in order to stay in the optimum charge speed ranges.

An ambulance that sits in the bay except when on a run would likely work as long as it's only expected to be available for 6 hours of an 8 hour shift

 

[APFSDS]

That's a lot of assumptions. There can be a gas shortage too. I agree with what you're saying about the power grid, but that's speculation on the worst case scenarios at this point.

Knowing how the towns where I live actually share their ambulances, I think there may be some validity to what you're saying. In a perfect scenario the cars just stay in their area and then all that math makes sense. In reality they never have enough. I listen to their radios sometimes, they will often send a car 3-4 towns over because there are not enough of them.

The part about the grid not being able to handle thousands of new EVs is not speculation. I got a letter from our local utility last winter begging everyone to conserve electricity because the grid couldn't handle the load. Add more EVs and more people forced to adopt heat pumps (which are 100% resistive heating below about 35 degrees) and you will have rolling blackouts. There are not plans I am aware of to add a bunch of generating capacity, and any new plants would take probably 10 years before they're online (I designed nuclear power plant safety systems at my last job, I know how long a power plant project takes).

 

[headednorth]

The part about the grid not being able to handle thousands of new EVs is not speculation. I got a letter from our local utility last winter begging everyone to conserve electricity because the grid couldn't handle the load. Add more EVs and more people forced to adopt heat pumps (which are 100% resistive heating below about 35 degrees) and you will have rolling blackouts. There are not plans I am aware of to add a bunch of generating capacity, and any new plants would take probably 10 years before they're online (I designed nuclear power plant safety systems at my last job, I know how long a power plant project takes).

I posted a video here a couple of years ago. IIRC it was a senate senate hearing. A guy was relaying a story about a town that was looking to go 100% electric. All city vehicles, trash trucks, etc. They hired a consultant to get the ball rolling and they said that they would use more electricity on a daily basis than the entire rest of the town combined.

 

[neum69]

The slide to communism has been in progress since the 1980's.

Now THAT is slow! Still, must reverse.