MA Gun Grab 2024: H.4885 - Passed legislature, headed to the governor

[vicorjh]

The liberals guide to woodworking.

If the screw is embedded in wood



It shall remain embedded in wood, even if it has been removed.

 

[Taipan01]

 

[p..]

Not sure why you quoted me. They weren't granted Cert by SCOTUS, they just filed a petition of writ like I already said.

Just supporting your statement. I didn't grasp the distinction until you pointed it out.

 

[pastera]

Many are looking for clarity in that Grandfathering issue.

There isn't clarity - the senate screwed it up further

 

[mothybee]

It’s mine. I paid for it and it was legal at the time.

Now you want to take it from me..?

Laws and all, read them. You swore an oath to uphold them and you are now not going to?

Thus I consider you a traitor to the US and the Constitution.

To the gallows with you.

Being armed and breaking your oath to the constitution...ummm, sounds like inserection to me but, I never was bright..

 

[MGnoob]

You know, I said I wouldn’t leave my home over this shit. But the writings on the wall somethings gotta change and it ain’t gonna be this state.


View: https://youtu.be/yx8J8CmRFNg?si=9k1k2Jez3HIOlt9q

 

[pastera]

Assuming said actor hacked login with LTC# and PIN.

You assume that there is enough protection to keep a competent penetrator from retrieving that data along with all of the other records

 

[VTski4x4]

You assume that there is enough protection to keep a competent penetrator from retrieving that data along with all of the other records

Wouldn't it be wonderful if someone hacked it and deleted everything? Dare to dream.

 

[pastera]

Wouldn't it be wonderful if someone hacked it and deleted everything? Dare to dream.

They have backups - a person would need to have serious insider knowledge and access to be able to pull it off.
Even if we were to win in court that all government records of private firearm ownership was unconstitutional we would have a multidecade battle to get the state to destroy their records

 

[babygorilla]

And be prepared to build what you can thereafter.

Meh, or just horde 80% lowers like I do. Now if I could only find the time to router and assemble.

 

[scott-o]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-mztxHgYQo

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

oh ya, a court is going to look at that language and just be like WTF is this crap? I cant imagine that crap is going to survive to the combined crap they tell us is a bill.

 

[DJBrad]

a competent penetrator

If anything the state is definitely trying penetration.



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[Picton]

oh ya, a court is going to look at that language and just be like WTF is this crap? I cant imagine that crap is going to survive to the combined crap they tell us is a bill.

I can imagine it surviving some courts, but I can't imagine it surviving all the courts.

 

[Taipan01]

New plates out:

 

[knucklehead]

If that boner posts a video titled "amazing news" or "we won" I'll guarantee you it's not and we didn't. I know he's pro 2a and a lawyer, but he's just another YouTube click bait account.

he used to be good at posting stuff when he was with the NRA-ILA but now he just makes videos that are late to the game and uses pics of SCOTUS and Biden for everything. he's become a click bait channel. i'll stick to 4 Boxes Diner, he's annoying but he's more in the loop than the other channel.

 

[Nightshift]

You assume that there is enough protection to keep a competent penetrator from retrieving that data along with all of the other records

Enough protection to all but the "Most Persistent" hacker!

 

[ThePreBanMan]

They have backups - a person would need to have serious insider knowledge and access to be able to pull it off.

Correct. That said, if a threat actor has persistent access to the environment for a long enough period of time, they can sufficiently enumerate it to discover the backup strategy and from that assume the business continuity and Disaster Recovery plan. They can then account for that in their attack strategy if their intent is the destruction of data. Now there are people who are smart, and keep their backups in both hot and cold storage. There's nothing an attacker or can do about the cold storage. But many an organization seem to operate under the assumption that hot storage alone is sufficient. Furthermore they keep that hot storage accessible from the same LAN segments as the systems under attack.

Those are the people who wind up paying the ransom.

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

I can imagine it surviving some courts, but I can't imagine it surviving all the courts.

it would definitely survive in the 9th but then again anything anti gun is ok to them. With that contradictory language, I cant imagine any court short of those moonbats thinking this makes sense and is ok according to the constitution.

"Gun A is legal to own as long as it looked this way from the factory however making something legal to own according to law A now makes it illegal to own" I cant imagine that argument winning in many court rooms outside the West Coast.

 

[Joeldiaz]

i'll stick to 4 Boxes Diner, he's annoying but he's more in the loop than the other channel.

by far the best guntuber.

 

[DJBrad]

View: https://youtu.be/Q7-9wbNDIJQ?si=xjWfzbyp04hcrnek

 

[Joeldiaz]

View: https://youtu.be/Q7-9wbNDIJQ?si=xjWfzbyp04hcrnek

Chances of SCOTUS taking this case are slim to none unfortunately.

 

[DJBrad]

Chances of SCOTUS taking this case are slim to none unfortunately.

Agree. His 10-20% estimate is too positive.

 

[TLB]

Let's get down to the real reason (not monetary) why people keep asking about grandpersoning. If their shit is grandpersoned, they don't have to make the hard choice- they can keep talking tough but wipe the sweat from their brow and go along their way. If they're all of a sudden forced to choose whether to disobey or not, that's an impossible choice for a lot - and they will be forced to choose. There will be lines of "come and take it" guys ready to hand in their shit for a $50 gift card.

JD Tuccile, among others, has written extensively on how the compliance rates on gun bans are very very low, even in countries without the 2A. Only a minority will do as you suggest.

I do hope there is no grandfathering. And no, I won't be taking any action to comply with this BS when it passes. I have no compunction to follow immoral laws passed by corrupt legislators.

 

[vicorjh]

I have no compunction to follow immoral laws passed by corrupt legislators.

View: https://youtu.be/N9wsjroVlu8?feature=shared

 

[Joeldiaz]

Agree. His 10-20% estimate is too positive.

They GVR'd it after Bruen. They'll probably grant cert after the en banc rules against us but there is no chance they take it up without an Appellate Court level ruling which is exactly what they GVR'd it for in the first place.

 

[inerlogic]

I got the AR because it's configured like the one I shot in Basic

yeh, i want to build an A2 style like what i carried when i served.... i did find stripped A2 uppers online.... can't find a 20" .gov profile barrel though, and the uppers are out there, but not in stock....

 

[inerlogic]

Didn't the state already release records on gun serial numbers registered via FA10 or through a gun dealer to what license number? I remember going through the list and figuring out what the state knew I had, and what they didn't.

So - it seems license numbers have already been publically disclosed. All you need is the pin. If a license number (publically known) and a pin are all required to log into the site, your typical script kiddie could get in under someone else's license in minutes...

you can uniquely identify someone with a birthdate and zip code.
LTC numbers, expiration dates and towns were all released, names were scrubbed, but see the first thing i typed.

 

[p..]

View: https://youtu.be/Q7-9wbNDIJQ?si=xjWfzbyp04hcrnek

SAF, CCRKBA ASK SCOTUS TO REVIEW MARYLAND SEMI-AUTO BAN - Second Amendment Foundation

 

[inerlogic]

They have backups - a person would need to have serious insider knowledge and access to be able to pull it off.
Even if we were to win in court that all government records of private firearm ownership was unconstitutional we would have a multidecade battle to get the state to destroy their records

no, the database needs to be hacked and the dats changed, and have it be undetected until the backup cycles have run out the valid data. like the fall river library has an excel spreadsheet of obituary listings, last name, first name, date of obit, and so forth... at some point, some idiot on staff did a sort and included the column headings, and didn't select all the columns, so that index became useless...

don't delete the database, that's obvious, scramble it.