MA Gun Grab 2024: H.4885 - Passed legislature, headed to the governor

[souper]

So anything post 2016 is banned?

No, anything pre this bill would be legal

Edit, looks like they changed 11 to 11.1 to reflect 69, so has to be pre July 2016

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

Looks like 111 allows anything registered in state prior to the bill passage

not the bill passage. The AG Guidance i believe is the date. July 20, 2016.

 

[Reptile]

Did they pass 11?
11 legalizes anything pre passage of this bill.

 

[CrackPot]

The amendment 11.1 that says owned and registered by 7/20/2016 is a major taking and essentially not a grandfathering. 10s of thousands of weapons lawfully purchased now become assault weapons and illegal. The AG said MCXs were legal. Now they are illegal and not grandfathered.

Did you buy a Ruger 10/22 and have the muzzle brake pinned and welded after 2016? Illegal.

They also say registered. We have no registration.

If you assembled it yourself, only the new law requires “registration” if you manufacture or assemble.

If you purchased an ar15 lower before 2016 and built it out in 2017. Illegal.

If you purchased an ar15 lower before 2016 and just have it sitting in your safe. Illegal

You can’t “register” lowers since they are not weapons by current MGL. illegal.


This would be my first choice of lawsuit. Pick your favorite, 4th, 5th, 14th. Pure taking by the state legislature.

The courts have already refused everyone standing on the Healey press conference. The one person with standing got his case mooted by Healey saying MCXs were not copies or duplicates. Now Creem wants to make 2016 as if it meant something.

 

[Reptile]

Voting on 11 now!!!

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

Did they pass 11?
11 legalizes anything pre passage of this bill.

they passed 11.1 which i believe is a combination of 11 and 69

 

[CrackPot]

No, anything pre this bill would be legal

Read amendment 11.1. No. Pre 7/20/2016 and only if registered (and nothing is registered in MA).

 

[Compooky]

I’m not even going to bother asking people to explain any of this to me. Can’t really explain something that’s nonsensical.

 

[Tallahassee]

OMG! Grandfathering! What about grandfathering?

I'm so nervous! I'm so excited! Oh grandfathering!

 

[Reptile]

11 passes!!!

Register now and your legal.

 

[Tallahassee]

I’m not even going to bother asking people to explain any of this to me. Can’t really explain something that’s nonsensical.

I wouldn't worry about any of it.

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

11 passes!!!

Register now and your legal.

it wasnt 11.

11 was amended into 11.1. That is what passed.

 

[Spartan65]

So f***ed

 

[Kurtz]

So what was the adoption as amended on 11? my sound wasn't working

 

[Tallahassee]

11 passes!!!

Register now and your legal.

Please do. Please compromise and validate this.

 

[Palladin]

After this bullshit is over, they still have to come up with a comprise bill between the Senate and the house

 

[DW357]

I was also at KAG yesterday… were you the guy picking up the Barrett?

That’s an expensive panic buy

 

[Reptile]

Amendment 11

Grandfather Clauses to Assault Weapons Ban

Messrs. Tarr, Moore, O'Connor, Durant, Brady, Timilty, Cronin, Collins, Pacheco, Montigny and Fattman move that the proposed new text be amended by inserting in line 112 after the word, “clause (i);” the following: - “(H) any weapon lawfully possessed in the Commonwealth prior to the passage of this act;”.

 

[pupchow]

So when this goes through when will this go back to the house and then on to Healy? Basically, how long do I have between now and going to the store? Is this a month's long process?

The anti-upskirting law took less than 24 hours to become law.

 

[VTski4x4]

So 11 was adopted (grandfathering), but 11.1 was also adopted (2016). Make this make sense.

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

So what was the adoption as amended on 11? my sound wasn't working

they grandfathered "legacy" firearms. Basically all those assault weapons sold between 94 and July 20, 2016

 

[Picton]

So 11 was adopted (grandfathering), but 11.1 was also adopted (2016). Make this make sense.

 

[DeadEyeDan]

That’s an expensive panic buy

Yep… to rich for me… it did come with a very nice pelican case. They said they had three more in stock.

 

[Tallahassee]

I remember holding the fleshlight for my grandfather, used to pay me a dime. Great guy.

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

So 11 was adopted (grandfathering), but 11.1 was also adopted (2016). Make this make sense.

well you see, these assault weapons in this corner are bad but ok assault weapons, and the assault weapons in that corner are really bad assault weapons

 

[CrackPot]

So 11 was adopted (grandfathering), but 11.1 was also adopted (2016). Make this make sense.

Amendment 11 was filed. They amended amendment 11 with the text shown in 11.1 and then passed the new amendment 11.

So the text is 11.1

 

[Steve600]

So is a 1994 preban still legal?

 

[Horatio Alger Jr]

they grandfathered "legacy" firearms. Basically all those assault weapons sold between 94 and July 20, 2016

So they want to make 8 years worth of firearm owners felons for no other reason than "that is the date we feel like choosing"?

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

So is a 1994 preban still legal?

yes

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

So they want to make 8 years worth of firearm owners felons for no other reason than "that is the date we feel like choosing"?

yes