MA Gun Grab 2024: H.4885 - Passed legislature, headed to the governor

[Jsfitzgerald85]

I bet there are some that might actually believe it themselves.

Probably the same idiots who somehow think democrats are anti-war.

 

[Woodsloafer]

No grandfathering

So we have to turn in "illegal" guns under this version?? I don't think so, fruck them.

 

[chris_1001]

So we have to turn in "illegal" guns under this version?? I don't think so, fruck them.

I think I remember from the original version,

sell them out of state, move them out of state or turn them in...

 

[VTski4x4]

I think I remember from the original version,

sell them out of state, move them out of state or turn them in...

You forgot one

 

[Reptile]

You forgot one View attachment 843245

Throw them in the swamp at Bagada?

 

[VTski4x4]

Throw them in the swamp at Bagada?

 

[Daddy Mac]

Who the hell knows but I wish they would hurry up and define dangerous as I need the help. Every time I open my safe I am very leery and cautious as I never know which of my firearms are peaceful and which ones are the dangerous ones, its quite nerve wracking....

The black ones. The black ones are more dangerous. Common knowledge.

 

[chris_1001]

You forgot one View attachment 843245

Lol, I was only referring to what the bill said, not the other options...

 

[Lxpony]

So we have to turn in "illegal" guns under this version?? I don't think so, fruck them.

 

[Reptile]

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So, there is grandfathering???

@CrackPot

 

[HorizontalHunter]

You make it sound like that’s not their intention.

That wasn’t my intention. It is a feature not a bug.

Easy to say, when I assume you don’t vote

Actually the reverse, I have always felt very strongly about it and have voted in every single election large and small for the last 40 odd years.

I no longer feel that way. But this Isn’t the tread for that.

 

[alx]

So, there is grandfathering???

@CrackPot

quick.. raise the price of your Noveske lowers.... they might just sell before Aug 1st

 

[Hogie1]

How much of this violates Bruen and when do we get FPC/Comm2A/GOAL to get a lawsuit going if (when) it gets passed?

 

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

Wait, so hold on a second here, is there no grandfathering, my boys?!?!?!?

 

[HorizontalHunter]

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Thats the house bill not the senate bill.

Eventually there will be some reconciliation between them.

 

[VTski4x4]

How much of this violates Bruen and when do we get FPC/Comm2A/GOAL to get a lawsuit going if (when) it gets passed?

All of it. They don't care.

 

[CMEBoston]

How much of this violates Bruen and when do we get FPC/Comm2A/GOAL to get a lawsuit going if (when) it gets passed?

Pretty sure the timing on this was to throw it in the face of Bruen

 

[HARRYM]

How much of this violates Bruen and when do we get FPC/Comm2A/GOAL to get a lawsuit going if (when) it gets passed?

It would seem to run a fowl with suitability if they really intend to allow each city or town decide what 2A rights they may let you have.

 

[556USER]

Thats the house bill not the senate bill.

Eventually there will be some reconciliation between them.

Exactly. They will get together and hammer out something that will will please the grand dragon, Maura Healey.

 

[Broc Tuah]

How much of this violates Bruen and when do we get FPC/Comm2A/GOAL to get a lawsuit going if (when) it gets passed?

All of it.

And not a single one of these measures can be correlated to reducing crime. Not a single one.

If they try really hard, they could make an argument for the CNC because I am sure at some point some idiot drug dealer was caught 3D printing or machining his own guns.

But that is it.

And the argument can still get shut down because putting words for banning the manufacturing of guns won't stop tje criminal that was already doing illegal sh*t. Instead, they could double or triple the punishment for doing that as part of committing a crime.

 

[HARRYM]

Many times over the years they changed gun laws. Reaching back and turning some into criminals who were not so prior to the changes. A clear violation of the 4th amendment, yet they got away with it. I doubt they are very worried about grandfather clauses.

 

[Broc Tuah]

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REPTILE, you can lower the price of your Noveske lower.

 

[VTski4x4]

When some version of this dumpster fire passes, if it still has support of MCOPA, no FFL should sell anything to LEO, and no ranges should allow LEO members or host LEO training events. Full stop. I'm sure that won't happen though, and we'll embrace the boot.

 

[Broc Tuah]

When some version of this dumpster fire passes, if it still has support of MCOPA, no FFL should sell anything to LEO, and no ranges should allow LEO members or host LEO training events. Full stop. I'm sure that won't happen though, and we'll embrace the boot.

You won't stop ranges. Most do it becuase they think they will be in the good grace of the overlord CLEO.

Because the people at the range making these desicions are a bunch of FUDDS.

As far as the FFL, I 100% agree with you. Someone could argue the business is in the business of making a profit. And I agree, but in this case they would be supporting the people that supported a law costing the FFL business. For some it might be a tough choice to make, but I will do the same. No shopping at any FFL supporting the people that support turning me into a criminal.

 

[DJBrad]

Don’t give consent, don’t talk, and know your rights.




View: https://youtu.be/ZNUw2G9WWOk?si=gpDEnojc2TSvDvM5

 

[VTski4x4]

You won't stop ranges. Most do it becuase they think they will be in the good race of the overlord CLEO.

Because the people at the range making these desicions are a bunch of FUDDS.

As far as the FFL, I 100% agree with you. Someone could argue the business is in the business of making a profit. And I agree, but in this case they would be supporting the people and supported a law costing the FFL business. For some it might be a tough choice to make, but I will do the same. No shopping at any FFL supporting the people that support turning me into a criminal.

Depressing, isn't it?

 

[sieveboy]

Many times over the years they changed gun laws. Reaching back and turning some into criminals who were not so prior to the changes. A clear violation of the 4th amendment, yet they got away with it. I doubt they are very worried about grandfather clauses.

grandfathers are the class they hate most

 

[HARRYM]

grandfathers are the class they hate most

I have had several young Leftists laugh at me and say, we are just waiting until your generation dies off, then we run the show.

 

[robjax]

They should just fully ban everything in Mass and confiscate all the firearms.

Nobody will do anything to resist them or stop it.

 

[CrackPot]

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That language is not part of S2572 and not relevant when considering the bill. Think of them as wholly unrelated to one another. The only linkage is pure legislative hijinks. Take S2572 as a modification of existing MGL and that is it. What the house proposed is not in play.