ThePreBanMan
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Got the guy some slack. We're not all lawyers are legal junkies here. We're just trying to understand what this means for all of us as gun owners behind the Iron Curtain.Jesus dude
You ask this everytime
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Got the guy some slack. We're not all lawyers are legal junkies here. We're just trying to understand what this means for all of us as gun owners behind the Iron Curtain.Jesus dude
You ask this everytime
If two women between the ages of 18 and 23, that are really, really, really, really hot.... want to get married and invite everyone over from the gun club.... I'm clearly in favor!I don't care how people "feel" about constitutional rights. 155% of all Americans were opposed to gay marriage the day before the SC said, "WTF,O?"
That was 9 years ago. I'm betting the anti-gay-marriage contingent today isn't 5% of the population.
People get wound up about things (I was part of teh 155% back then) and then, when it happens, realize it's NBD. Same with gun rights. We're gonna calm the F down about AWB's about 8 days after the SC issues their no-more-bans ruling. Except for a, albeit vocal, micro-minority.
The Snope v. Brown circuit court case isn't precedent here, so unless cert is granted it has no direct impact on Massachusetts. Ocean State Tactical is a different matter. Unless cert is granted and the case reversed, it'll make it extremely difficult to win a challenge against Massachusetts's ban on standard capacity magazines.What are the implications here for Massachusetts?
The worst that can happen is that the Supreme Court grants cert and upholds the Maryland ban. You can then expect states like Massachusetts to push the decision to the limit by banning any semi-automatic carbine, rifle, and rifle caliber handgun.What is the worst that can come of this? Status quo?
That the Supreme Court grants cert and decides that semi-automatic rifles and carbines are bearable arms, in common use, and reasonable weapons for self defense. They also decide that some or all of criteria used to define an "assault weapon," bears no rational relationship to a legitimate state interest. They also rule that limits on magazine capacity are not supported by "historical tradition." As a long shot, they also overrule Miller.What is the best that can come of this? 30 round magazines and new, current AR's?
True, but you can purchase long guns outside your state.Even if the AWB gets struck down, I have no doubt MA will use the approved roster, or will make a new approved roster. They will say that semi auto rifles are not banned they're just not "approved for sale". You also have thr MA Consumer Protection Act. There's a whole lot of f***ery they still have up their sleeves.
This - He actually tries to distill our histrionic outbursts into sensible memos for his club.Got the guy some slack. We're not all lawyers are legal junkies here. We're just trying to understand what this means for all of us as gun owners behind the Iron Curtain.
Damn thing won't download - shows how much interest there is
Damn thing won't download - shows how much interest there is
Hopefully a screwup and it comes back with CertIt showed up for me about 10 mins ago but I just went back to re read it and now it’s not even listed. Hm.
No problem loading it for me. (more than once)Damn thing won't download - shows how much interest there is
Clear your browser cache. Loading fine for me after clearing my browser cache earlier.Hopefully a screwup and it comes back with Cert
Still won't load - either on the phone or laptopNo problem loading it for me. (more than once)
Clear your browser cache. Loading fine for me after clearing my browser cache earlier.
View: https://x.com/fourboxesdiner/status/1880341340720116055
Still a bridesmaid
This is going to suck hard but it may be pointing toward holding out for a dissent to be written.
Still won't load - either on the phone or laptop
Pull it and post please
They released a miscellaneous order not including Snope or Ocean State - so in limbo until Tuesday.Damn, so he’s not even saying they may still grant cert or not until next week!? I wonder why he’s not anticipating the possibility of it coming out tonight or early next week and already saying one last chance next Friday?
No - the link I have and it doesn't list anything for 1/17
What does NES think about SCOTUS actually holding the release of Cert for Snope or Ocean State until Tuesday because of the inauguration on Monday?
Given that just taking Cert on either means the Court is looking to strike the bans, I could see Roberts wanting to hold off until after Monday to keep the crazies calm while SCOTUS is there.
Jesus dude
You ask this everytime
Thank you for the concise, readable, and understandable answers.The Snope v. Brown circuit court case isn't precedent here, so unless cert is granted it has no direct impact on Massachusetts. Ocean State Tactical is a different matter. Unless cert is granted and the case reversed, it'll make it extremely difficult to win a challenge against Massachusetts's ban on standard capacity magazines.
The worst that can happen is that the Supreme Court grants cert and upholds the Maryland ban. You can then expect states like Massachusetts to push the decision to the limit by banning any semi-automatic carbine, rifle, and rifle caliber handgun.
That the Supreme Court grants cert and decides that semi-automatic rifles and carbines are bearable arms, in common use, and reasonable weapons for self defense. They also decide that some or all of criteria used to define an "assault weapon," bears no rational relationship to a legitimate state interest. They also rule that limits on magazine capacity are not supported by "historical tradition." As a long shot, they also overrule Miller.
Massachusetts residents can then purchase, possess, and carry the same firearms as in less knee-jerk "we must do something" states.
What does NES think about SCOTUS actually holding the release of Cert for Snope or Ocean State until Tuesday because of the inauguration on Monday?
Given that just taking Cert on either means the Court is looking to strike the bans, I could see Roberts wanting to hold off until after Monday to keep the crazies calm while SCOTUS is there.
Feels like hopium but I like it.What does NES think about SCOTUS actually holding the release of Cert for Snope or Ocean State until Tuesday because of the inauguration on Monday?
Given that just taking Cert on either means the Court is looking to strike the bans, I could see Roberts wanting to hold off until after Monday to keep the crazies calm while SCOTUS is there.
If SCOTUS does rule in Snope, the precedent could be binding across the nation, depending on how they word it.The Snope v. Brown circuit court case isn't precedent here, so unless cert is granted it has no direct impact on Massachusetts. Ocean State Tactical is a different matter. Unless cert is granted and the case reversed, it'll make it extremely difficult to win a challenge against Massachusetts's ban on standard capacity magazines.
PDF attached.Still won't load - either on the phone or laptop
Pull it and post please