Mass AK thread.

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

Granted.

But it's WELL worth waiting for. Seems like the OP is looking for something a li'l bit different, and the Vz58 definitely fits the bill.

I love the suggestion actually, very creative and outside the box.

 

[Picton]

I love the suggestion actually, very creative and outside the box.

My favorite x39 rifle, and I've owned a lot of AKs and SKSs. Love those too, but SHTF = Vz58.

 

[btnh6668]

My favorite x39 rifle, and I've owned a lot of AKs and SKSs. Love those too, but SHTF = Vz58.

Worth thinking about. If i am not mistaken though those rifles do not use regular ak mags correct?

 

[Picton]

Worth thinking about. If i am not mistaken though those rifles do not use regular ak mags correct?

They do not, but every time I've gone looking for Vz58 mags they were cheap, in great shape, and readily available in MA.

 

[jpm]

I must be the only one that prefers the thumbhole stock on the MAK90. I had one with a regular AK stock and pistol grip and did not like it as much as one with the standard thumbhole grip. I found the pistol grip too skinny to be comfortable shooting. But the thumbhole grip felt just right to me, I could shoot that all day.

As far as converting one to side folder, I would say you want a straight cut receiver for that.

 

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

I must be the only one that prefers the thumbhole stock on the MAK90. I had one with a regular AK stock and pistol grip and did not like it as much as one with the standard thumbhole grip. I found the pistol grip too skinny to be comfortable shooting. But the thumbhole grip felt just right to me, I could shoot that all day.

As far as converting one to side folder, I would say you want a straight cut receiver for that.

Crap, that’s the answer I feared but definitely needed to know about. I’ve already botched this thing once I’ll just leave it and save myself the trouble.

 

[paul73]

My favorite x39 rifle, and I've owned a lot of AKs and SKSs. Love those too, but SHTF = Vz58.

How is accuracy of your sample? I’ve read some say 4moa, some say 1moa and there was no clear consensus.

 

[btnh6668]

I must be the only one that prefers the thumbhole stock on the MAK90. I had one with a regular AK stock and pistol grip and did not like it as much as one with the standard thumbhole grip. I found the pistol grip too skinny to be comfortable shooting. But the thumbhole grip felt just right to me, I could shoot that all day.

As far as converting one to side folder, I would say you want a straight cut receiver for that.

You are indeed the only person i know of who likes the mak 90 stock lol. As far as the receiver i have been eying this one. They claim it will work with the straight or slant cut. https://www.bonesteelarms.com/MAK-90-Galil-Style-Folding-Stock-FS-GL-MAK.htm

 

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

You are indeed the only person i know of who likes the mak 90 stock lol. As far as the receiver i have been eying this one. They claim it will work with the straight or slant cut. https://www.bonesteelarms.com/MAK-90-Galil-Style-Folding-Stock-FS-GL-MAK.htm

Nice, I think my AK has a stamped receiver so even though its a slant cut that might work.

 

[Picton]

How is accuracy of your sample? I’ve read some say 4moa, some say 1moa and there was no clear consensus.

I'm not sure. I'm no precision shooter; I learned to shoot in the Army, and if I can put down a man or a deer at 150 meters that's all I really want to be able to do. My Vz hits 6" gongs at 100 meters with monotonous regularity. As long as I get 100% hits on that, I generally figure I'm doing well enough.

To be fair, my SKS can do the same. And so can my milled AK, but I've had AKs in the past (primarily underfolders) that I shot more poorly.

 

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

I'm not sure. I'm no precision shooter; I learned to shoot in the Army, and if I can put down a man or a deer at 150 meters that's all I really want to be able to do. My Vz hits 6" gongs at 100 meters with monotonous regularity. As long as I get 100% hits on that, I generally figure I'm doing well enough.

To be fair, my SKS can do the same. And so can my milled AK, but I've had AKs in the past (primarily underfolders) that I shot more poorly.

I have also found with folding stocks that you sometimes give up a little bit in the accuracy department.

 

[Picton]

I have also found with folding stocks that you sometimes give up a little bit in the accuracy department.

For me, it’s not any instability In the rifle. It’s the uncomfortable head position.

 

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

For me, it’s not any instability In the rifle. It’s the uncomfortable head position.

Same, also the points of contact when shouldering the rifle. I had a Mini-14 with a folding stock and it was pretty cool but on the range its performance was just par.

 

[jpm]

Nice, I think my AK has a stamped receiver so even though its a slant cut that might work.

It will probably work but I'm thinking from a cosmetic standpoint it won't look as good. The slant is obvious when you take off the thumbhole stock and put something else on. I suppose a black stock would make it a bit less obvious though.

 

[Picton]

It will probably work but I'm thinking from a cosmetic standpoint it won't look as good. The slant is obvious when you take off the thumbhole stock and put something else on. I suppose a black stock would make it a bit less obvious though.

Rifle is fine.

 

[jpm]

So i am possibly looking for another ak or rifles that shoot either 7.62x39 or 5.45x39. Discounting the obvious Norinco's, i know there are a limited egyptian and hungarian models as well. Ive seen the M&M rifles that take ak mags but they seem to be problematic. Vepr's and saiga's are non existant. The few that are available are 2000+. Way to much to pay for an unconverted ak. I would love to get an arsenal but the few left in state are more than im willing to pay. With that said any other rifles come to mind that can be easily obtained in this shit hole state?

Just noticed 4 Seasons has a Norinco 84S-1 underfolder in 5.56 on their used gun page.

 

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

It will probably work but I'm thinking from a cosmetic standpoint it won't look as good. The slant is obvious when you take off the thumbhole stock and put something else on. I suppose a black stock would make it a bit less obvious though.

Exactly the problem I had with my Arsenal furniture. It fit but there was a gap and I didn’t really want to add a potential point of failure.

 

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

Just noticed 4 Seasons has a Norinco 84S-1 underfolder in 5.56 on their used gun page.

Not even a terrible price for it either. Good eye.

 

[jpm]

Not even a terrible price for it either. Good eye.

Yeah and its been there for a bit so if I was interested, I'd make an offer on it.

 

[Grendizer138]

Not even a terrible price for it either. Good eye.

$2700 for a .223 Norinco underfolder?! You guys have a very different definition of “not a terrible price” than I do!

You can buy a VZ-58 for much less, and it’s 10x the rifle, has a military heritage, and mags are actually obtainable, unlike the 84s.

But if you must have a 223 AK, here is a much better option and you don’t have to go to the DTE:

WTS - @@ CELEBRATE AK DIVERSITY * Hungary, China, Egypt, Italy @@

South Shore Guns has several pre-ban AK variants for sale, as follows: I HAVE AT LEAST 10 MAK 90's (or similar), ranging in price from 1650-1900. They are all listed here: www.southshoreguns.net shop tab 508-631-1989 to contact please... Don FEG Hungary SA 85m Trophy Edition AK 47 This has...

www.northeastshooters.com

 

[zmd]

Never had a problem with my M&M . One of my favorite rifles to shoot

 

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

FEG SA85M spotted on FS used list for $2095.95, with two preban mags and in alleged ‘excellent condition.’

 

[jpm]

$2700 for a .223 Norinco underfolder?! You guys have a very different definition of “not a terrible price” than I do!

You can buy a VZ-58 for much less, and it’s 10x the rifle, has a military heritage, and mags are actually obtainable, unlike the 84s.

But if you must have a 223 AK, here is a much better option and you don’t have to go to the DTE:

WTS - @@ CELEBRATE AK DIVERSITY * Hungary, China, Egypt, Italy @@

South Shore Guns has several pre-ban AK variants for sale, as follows: I HAVE AT LEAST 10 MAK 90's (or similar), ranging in price from 1650-1900. They are all listed here: www.southshoreguns.net shop tab 508-631-1989 to contact please... Don FEG Hungary SA 85m Trophy Edition AK 47 This has...

www.northeastshooters.com

None of those are underfolders and some are even more $$. Apples to oranges.

 

[btnh6668]

Was in a bidding war for a brand new mak 90 which i am losing at $1575. Good grief. I paid $800 for my first one and $1100 for my second. The new mak 90's are obviously getting harder to find but damn. Auction ends in a few hours. Tough choice. I can wait and hope to find one cheaper, or i wait and they get more expensive. errrrr

 

[Picton]

Was in a bidding war for a brand new mak 90 which i am losing at $1575. Good grief. I paid $800 for my first one and $1100 for my second. The new mak 90's are obviously getting harder to find but damn. Auction ends in a few hours. Tough choice. I can wait and hope to find one cheaper, or i wait and they get more expensive. errrrr

Nothing is getting cheaper. Nothing.

 

[AJK129]

Was in a bidding war for a brand new mak 90 which i am losing at $1575. Good grief. I paid $800 for my first one and $1100 for my second. The new mak 90's are obviously getting harder to find but damn. Auction ends in a few hours. Tough choice. I can wait and hope to find one cheaper, or i wait and they get more expensive. errrrr

They were hitting 1500+ before covid for decent ones, so thats not bad yet

 

[jpm]

You can find them cheaper if you're patient and hit the buy it now quickly.

 

[btnh6668]

You can find them cheaper if you're patient and hit the buy it now quickly.

I have been looking the past two weeks for a friend before i decided a couple days ago to go that route and i saw a few new ones going for 1400. The past two i saw have been upwards of 1500. All the buy it now rifles i saw that were NIB was all 1800+. In fact the same ones i saw 2 weeks ago are still there. Crazy how high ak's have gone.

 

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

They are fine rifles. I was holding out and not buying one because they were all expensive…until I found one on NES advertised by a good guy from whom I purchased a FAL in December. I decided to buy it and it was $1600 with two preban mags. I am pretty satisfied with the deal overall. Grab modern military while you can. But if you want to mix it up from MAK90 land there are options available.

 

[Grendizer138]

I would never soil my AK collection with an 84s, but for those interested may be worth calling for price: