Nighthawk 1911 9mm, single vs double stack

[bostonfx]

I'm ordering a Nighthawk 1911 9mm and thinking should I get the double stack for $500 more. The single stack version holds 10rds, double stack holds 17rds but since it's MA, will use the 10rd version anyway. I don't have giant hands, so I don't care for the thicker magwell of the double stack version.

Has anyone shot both single and double stack and can tell the difference in your hands? Should I get the double stack version just because it'll have higher resell value? Just fishing for personal opinions since there's probably no right or wrong answer. Thanks in advance.

 

[DW357]

Sounds like you’ve answered your question no?

I would also add that unless you’re going to shoot competitively (double stack 1911 would Limited or Limited-10 division in USPSA I believe) and unless you care about following the mag restrictions in MA, then stick with the single stack. Though a double stack 1911 can be a fun range plinker too.

I would also say double stack mags are pricier but the fact that you’re buying a nighthawk shows that you’re not a poor

 

[Supermoto]

I personally would go double stack. But I have large sandwich clamps and use wide grips on my 1911s. If you use slim grips on your 1911s, then go 1911, if you use wide grips, go 2011. I also like the wider front strap as it fits my hands better.

I wouldn't worry about resale, I would consider if you can move to free America and get regular mags

 

[seanc]

I think you loose all of the ergos with a double stack.

 

[DW357]

I personally would go double stack. But I have large sandwich clamps and use wide grips on my 1911s. If you use slim grips on your 1911s, then go 1911, if you use wide grips, go 2011. I also like the wider front strap as it fits my hands better.

I wouldn't worry about resale, I would consider if you can move to free America and get regular mags

I have decent sized hands with long fingers. I have custom (extra wide) grip panels on my CZ’s to help fill my hands.

A 2011 would fit me very well. I just can’t bring myself to go down that hole. Especially since I only shoot 9mm minor

 

[gerrycaruso]

I'd say that people who buy a 1911, do so because they want a 1911. If they want higher capacity, they buy something else.

 

[Mass-diver]

I have pretty big hands, but I love single stack.

 

[bostonfx]

Thanks all for the quick responses.

I have pretty big hands, but I love single stack.

Mind to elaborate? I saw on another NH board that the single stack feels better when loading, handling the mags, etc.

 

[seanc]

Thanks all for the quick responses.

Mind to elaborate? I saw on another NH board that the single stack feels better when loading, handling the mags, etc.

John browning hit it out of the park when he made the 1911.

110 years later. It is still one of the most popular guns out there.. browning did not think you needed a double stack mag. If he did he would have made it that way.

 

[Supermoto]

Thanks all for the quick responses.

Mind to elaborate? I saw on another NH board that the single stack feels better when loading, handling the mags, etc.

Reloads on double stacks is faster and easier

 

[bostonfx]

Nighthawk sent this picture below of the same gun model, left is single and right is dual stack. For the price of a Nighthawk, I think I prefer the handsome looking of that magwell on the left.

 

[DW357]

Double stack 1911s (2011s) are extremely popular in USPSA and even IDPA competitions. So for the average range plinker who doesn’t shoot competitively, a 2011 may not make sense to them. Can’t say you’d be wrong getting the 1911 version. Nice guns for sure

Nighthawk sent this picture below of the same gun model, left is single and right is dual stack. For the price of a Nighthawk, I think I prefer the handsome looking of that magwell on the left.

 

[Supermoto]

You can get magwells for the doublestack too. Another benefit of the wide body is the frame is separate from the grip, so you can change the grips from plastic to AL to steel, to change the balance of the gun. But it is all personal preference. I would recommend getting both

 

[PappyM3]

I'd say that people who buy a 1911, do so because they want a 1911. If they want higher capacity, they buy something else.

There is a huge double stack 1911 trend right now among the “tactical”, competition, and LE crowd.

 

[PappyM3]

John browning hit it out of the park when he made the 1911.

110 years later. It is still one of the most popular guns out there.. browning did not think you needed a double stack mag. If he did he would have made it that way.

“John browning did not think you needed a double stack mag”… and then proceeded to design the Hi-Power with a double stack mag.

I do prefer single stack 1911s though.

 

[usp45ct]

If you have the extra $500 clams, get the double stack. I have a 2011 that is awesome. No regerts Ot regrets.

 

[gerrycaruso]

I thought the Hi Power came along too late to be designed by Browning

 

[TrashcanDan]

Has anyone shot both single and double stack and can tell the difference in your hands?

I'll never own another single stack 1911 ever again.
Double stack fits me really well, and no more having to play around with custom grips

If a single fits you really well, then go with what fits your mitt. Worry about re-sale down after 2 or 3 thousand rounds.

 

[Deleted member 67409]

“John browning did not think you needed a double stack mag”… and then proceeded to design the Hi-Power with a double stack mag.

I do prefer single stack 1911s though.

I thought the Hi Power came along too late to be designed by Browning

There's two prototype guns that lore and legend (or bullshit) state were on John Browning's work bench when he died: the GP-35 that became the BHP and the Superposed.

John Browning was a gun designer. If he was asked to design a 37mm cannon by one of his employers, he would've. He designed what his employers' clients asked for. In 1900 to 1910, the US wanted a .45-caliber semi-auto handgun. In the 1920s, the French wanted a doublestack handgun that accepted some sort of 9mm cartridge. He wasn't Moses coming down with the Ten Commandments, he worked to help his employers satisfy military contracts.

 

[Mass-diver]

Thanks all for the quick responses.

Mind to elaborate? I saw on another NH board that the single stack feels better when loading, handling the mags, etc.

For classes and carry, I have a G19, but I love the feel of my springer 1911 with (eck!) VZ slim grips. I have shot double stack 1911s and for pure function I have no doubt they are superior, but for me the single stack just feels so much better in the hand. You should shoot both and then decide.

 

[FTOcean]

Get 2011 if you plan on moving out of MA in a few years, and actually going to use this gun for CCW and HD.

Get 1911 if you just want a beautiful piece to show off and have fun with. 1911 looks better and magazine is much cheaper than 2011.

 

[seanc]

“John browning did not think you needed a double stack mag”… and then proceeded to design the Hi-Power with a double stack mag.

I do prefer single stack 1911s though.

Thus proving.. he had/ knew of the double stack idea. The knowledge of how to do it and apply it.
yet, decided to not apply it on the 1911..

 

[DW357]

No offense but who the F cares what JMB thought or didn't apply to the 1911 etc.?
Do people buy guns based on what a gun maker, who died 100 years ago, would have thought about a modern day gun??
But to each their own

 

[PappyM3]

Thus proving.. he had/ knew of the double stack idea. The knowledge of how to do it and apply it.
yet, decided to not apply it on the 1911..

Yeah, like 20-30 years later. Double stack detacheable magazines did not exist when the 1911 was designed. But I agree with Andrew here:

No offense but who the F cares what JMB thought or didn't apply to the 1911 etc.?
Do people buy guns based on what a gun maker, who died 100 years ago, would have thought about a modern day gun??
But to each their own

 

[Deleted member 67409]

Yeah, like 20-30 years later. Double stack detacheable magazines did not exist when the 1911 was designed. But I agree with Andrew here:

Incorrect - Colt's main competitor during the US Army trials that led to the adoption of the Colt 1911 was the Savage series of handguns, like the Savage 1907. The Savage 1907 has a ten-round, doublestack, detachable mag. I believe @EddieCoyle is our resident Savage handgun guy. The concept of a doublestack mag, in nondetachable form, existed at least in the 1890s, with the Mauser 1893 being the first internal, doublestack, but nondetachable magazine rifle adopted by a major military.

That being said, as multiple people including myself have already mentioned, this has minimal to no bearing on gun choice in 2022.

 

[PappyM3]

Incorrect - Colt's main competitor during the US Army trials that led to the adoption of the Colt 1911 was the Savage series of handguns, like the Savage 1907. The Savage 1907 has a ten-round, doublestack, detachable mag. I believe @EddieCoyle is our resident Savage handgun guy. The concept of a doublestack mag, in nondetachable form, existed at least in the 1890s, with the Mauser 1893 being the first internal, doublestack, but nondetachable magazine rifle adopted by a major military.

That being said, as multiple people including myself have already mentioned, this has minimal to no bearing on gun choice in 2022.

Savage had the patent in 1904 yeah. Both pistols were pretty much developed at the same time.

 

[tuna]

I’d go with the single stack. But I’m not you.

 

[Kylep427]

Doublestack all day. Just get preban hi cap mags. Plenty out there. Here’s my 7 inch 1911 built of a para frame. Welded a cut 5 inch onto a 6 inch slide. Still working on finishing it. It works, by the way. Below is my .45 double stack I built.

 

[jkelly1229]

John browning hit it out of the park when he made the 1911.

110 years later. It is still one of the most popular guns out there.. browning did not think you needed a double stack mag. If he did he would have made it that way.

Did it win 2 world wars too?

Op get the double stack and the 17 rounders. I don't think you'll be carrying a 4500 dollar pistol either way for self defense on the off hand you'll actually use it. That gun is as good as gone if you do so i assume you have other carry/bedside burners

In which case the extra ammo cap will come in handy when everyone wants to shoot it at the range

 

[1903Collector]

Hey, you guys are slippin....No one has asked the intended purpose of the gun in question!