That lil thing darn near disappears in your hand, MajSpud!![[laugh]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/012.gif "Laugh [laugh]")
That's the point, isn't it? About the smallest .32 I know - and it's got class!
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That's the point, isn't it? About the smallest .32 I know - and it's got class!
MS
Nice assortment, now you need the SR1911!![[wink]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/002.gif "Wink [wink]")
Would if I didnt already have a Springfield 1911
Here are my 2 CCW choices,
S&W 1911 w/Crimson Trace
S&W 3913
Both ride in a Super-tuck, extra mags ride in my pocket.
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S&W 1911 w/Crimson Trace
S&W 3913
Both ride in a Super-tuck, extra mags ride in my pocket.
View attachment 25574
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My EDC setup.
Glock 36 in a Comp-Tac Minotaur. Spare mag in the pocket (speer gold dots) and a Benchmade
Glock 36 in a Comp-Tac Minotaur. Spare mag in the pocket (speer gold dots) and a Benchmade
Here's my carry rig when I need to lock it in the car temporarily.
1. Unlock and open rear of Jeep
2. Turn box 90 degrees, unlock and open
3. Remove gun from holster
4. Point in safe direction (toward back seat)
5. Drop mag and place in box
6. Drop thumb safety
7. Rack slide and lock open, unchambering +1 round and placing in box
8. Place gun in box
9. Remove holster and place in box
10. Close and lock box
11. Turn 90 degrees to storage position
12. Close and lock rear gate
13. Answer phone to explain to my daughter why I'm late picking her up from school...
1. Unlock and open rear of Jeep
2. Turn box 90 degrees, unlock and open
3. Remove gun from holster
4. Point in safe direction (toward back seat)
5. Drop mag and place in box
6. Drop thumb safety
7. Rack slide and lock open, unchambering +1 round and placing in box
8. Place gun in box
9. Remove holster and place in box
10. Close and lock box
11. Turn 90 degrees to storage position
12. Close and lock rear gate
13. Answer phone to explain to my daughter why I'm late picking her up from school...
Here's my carry rig when I need to lock it in the car temporarily.
1. Unlock and open rear of Jeep
2. Turn box 90 degrees, unlock and open
3. Remove gun from holster
4. Point in safe direction (toward back seat)
5. Drop mag and place in box
6. Drop thumb safety
7. Rack slide and lock open, unchambering +1 round and placing in box
8. Place gun in box
9. Remove holster and place in box
10. Close and lock box
11. Turn 90 degrees to storage position
12. Close and lock rear gate
13. Answer phone to explain to my daughter why I'm late picking her up from school...
not a bad setup, quick and easy!!! i just unload mine, throw it in the glove box and lock it, that way noone in public see's me handling the firearm.
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Mostly this, 1918 commercial proof M1913 Sauer 7.65; either with the original holster and 2nd mag, or just an inside-the pocket holster with 7+1.
MS
I like your style. Great looking gun
Here's my carry rig when I need to lock it in the car temporarily.
1. Unlock and open rear of Jeep
2. Turn box 90 degrees, unlock and open
3. Remove gun from holster
4. Point in safe direction (toward back seat)
5. Drop mag and place in box
6. Drop thumb safety
7. Rack slide and lock open, unchambering +1 round and placing in box
8. Place gun in box
9. Remove holster and place in box
10. Close and lock box
11. Turn 90 degrees to storage position
12. Close and lock rear gate
13. Answer phone to explain to my daughter why I'm late picking her up from school...
why bother unloading it?
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Here's my carry rig when I need to lock it in the car temporarily.
1. Unlock and open rear of Jeep
2. Turn box 90 degrees, unlock and open
3. Remove gun from holster
4. Point in safe direction (toward back seat)
5. Drop mag and place in box
6. Drop thumb safety
7. Rack slide and lock open, unchambering +1 round and placing in box
8. Place gun in box
9. Remove holster and place in box
10. Close and lock box
11. Turn 90 degrees to storage position
12. Close and lock rear gate
13. Answer phone to explain to my daughter why I'm late picking her up from school...
Is the handle on the safe where it's attached to the chain made out of plastic or metal?
See bold below...
- “No person carrying a loaded firearm (i.e. handgun) under a Class A license to carry firearms… shall carry the same in a vehicle unless such firearm while carried therein is under the direct control of such person.” (Chapter 140, section 131C)
- “No person carrying a firearm under a Class B license to carry firearms shall possess the same unless such weapon is unloaded and contained within the locked trunk of such vehicle or in a locked case or other secure container.”
Handle is metal, though I'm not sure it makes a big difference from plastic really. The goal is to increase the work factor and attack vectors of any attempted theft while minimizing attack surface. (box is not visible when vehicle is closed, btw)
Given enough time and motivation, nothing is 100% secure. With the current setup, probably easier for them just hotwire the jeep for a grand theft charge. Hoping that most petty thieves arent't interested in risking that.
isn't this referring to the actual CARRYING of the firearm while in the vehicle?? meaning if you are carrying a loaded firearm and then get into a car, it can't just be laying in the back seat loaded cuz that would not be considered "direct control". i think i recall my gun safety instructer saying don't have it further than arms reach away if it is loaded and you are in your vehicle. any further would require either a trigger lock or a lock box. in other words, it can be on your person, in the center console, even mounted under the dash....is this correct?? if you have a gun safe at home you can leave loaded firearms inside the locked safe, right?? if the GUN ITSELF is locked in a safe away from wondering eyes and hands, what would the purpose of unloading it be?? i don't see any added safety by having it unloaded when it's already locked in a safe.
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At the risk of hijacking this thread, this question has been discussed ad nauseum in the MA laws forum. As an unrestricted LTC-A holder, I have two options for carrying my pistol in my vehicle:
1. "under my control", as you noted, which means loaded or unloaded, preferably concealed and preferably on my person. Anything else may be subject to interpretation by a LEO if you're stopped.
2. UNLOADED and IN a locked hard case (anywhere) OR in a locked trunk, which is not accessible from inside the vehicle (i.e. no hatchback trunks). A trigger lock is NOT sufficient.
That's it... anything else and you're risking loss of of your LTC (or worse).
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holy hell thank you for the suggestion! got my streamlight pro today and it is awesome! never even heard of it before reading your post man, thanks! reps inbound!
I see there is a single AAA there for $19, which has the same LED light. I wonder if it is similar brightness, with just a shorter lifespan. I'd rather have smaller with spare batteries, if I had the choice.
Nice looking pair! I'd LOVE to see a side by side comparison of that .45 next to a .38 snub j frame.
Not at all... see sig... LTC-A unrestricted, but MA law forbids carry on school grounds, and some consider it prudent to avoid carry at post offices in light of the ubiquitous misunderstanding of carry prohibition there. So sometimes I need to stow it and MA laws are specific about requirements for transporting firearms *not* under direct control of an LTC-A holder.
Part of my "carry rig" is what I do with my pistol when I need to temporarily leave it behind in my vehicle. My vehicle being a Jeep Wrangler (no trunk, sub-standard door locks and sometimes fabric or absent roof) presents its own challenges in this regard.
Therefore, I've posted pictures of that component of my "carry rig" along with my protocol to ensure safe and legal stowage. Thanks for all comments about it, and let's take any debate about its legal aspects over to the MA law forum or I'm happy to discuss via PM.
(posting this sans sidearm from Playa Mujeres, Cancún
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"direct control" doesn't have a legal definition in MGL, so it is wise to play with the most conservative approach you can: Direct Control means on you.
I would not put your gun in the glove box or center console, case law has shown that to be a bad idea IIRC.
Trigger locks do nothin to satisfy the law with regards to transporting firearms.
A good prosecutor could convince a judge that even "on your person" is not direct control, so what's the difference? As mentioned above, there is no clear definition of direct control, so the chances of proving whether or not a firearm is under direct control or not is 50/50. And that's 50% chance that it is, 50% chance it isn't...NO MATTER WHERE THEY FIND THE FIREARM. Anytime anyone leaves the house with a firearm, there is a chance they don't come home that day. Whether it's due to an altercation gone wrong or gun-related arrest and it all comes back to lack of definitive law. The justice system is ass backwards, there is no "conservative approach" when it comes to firearms. If the cop wants to be a dick, he will be a dick, that's the bottom line. I know a guy in MA who was institutionalized for mental health issues for a week, attempted to commit suicide, and was charged with a criminal offense at age 19 who now has a class A LTC with no restrictions...most would say that would never happen, but it has. So none of us really can clarify any gun law 100%. To each is own, best of luck to all of us!!!
I will not comment anymore as this way off thread topic, I apologize to the mods
I will not comment anymore as this way off thread topic, I apologize to the mods
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Tag Heuer professional
Pps 9mm w/ extra 8rd mag
Crossbreed
Spyderco civilian
Victorinox swisstool spirit
Space pen
Skinth iPhone holster
iPhone 4s
Kenneth cole wallet
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Glock 19 or 17 in an Old Faithful holster. Depends on how I'm feeling.
Spare mag in an IWB carrier. Usually carry a spare G17 mag.
Kershaw folder
Cheapo Ultrafire 123 light that has proven to be indestructable
wallet
car key
watch
Spare mag in an IWB carrier. Usually carry a spare G17 mag.
Kershaw folder
Cheapo Ultrafire 123 light that has proven to be indestructable
wallet
car key
watch
Glock 19 or 17 in an Old Faithful holster. Depends on how I'm feeling.
Spare mag in an IWB carrier. Usually carry a spare G17 mag.
Kershaw folder
Cheapo Ultrafire 123 light that has proven to be indestructable
wallet
car key
watch
Always good to see a fellow southpaw.
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What do you carry for a backup though? haha
Current carry collection depending on weather/dress. 38 LCR, 9mm SR9C, 45 cal XDS, 380 LCP, and 40 cal M&P Shield
Nice, you're about a P238 and a 1911 officer's model away from a gun for each day of the week!
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