The Conference Committee has sent official language out - h.4885

[Picton]

only two days left before the freedom door closes.

This post shows the Overton Window shifting in real-time.

 

[silversquirrel]

Imagine if you asked your town building inspector what a law specifying a certain kind of insulation meant.

And he told you to hire an attorney and parse it out. And that he wouldn't tell you if you were in compliance or violation until your final inspection.

No need to imagine. The new MA energy stretch code is like that. You need to hire a HERS rater to do the energy model and determine insulation needed based on a bunch of other factors. Building inspector will make you get a HERS certificate proving you meet the code!

 

[BroncoAZ]

Strengthening and Enforcing Gun Laws - Andrea Campbell

Every Massachusetts resident has the right to feel safe in their homes, schools, and grocery stores, but the Supreme Court’s recent decision to expand gun rights has very serious implications that will undermine or eliminate the very laws that keep us safe. Those disproportionately harmed or...

www.andreacampbell.org

Wow, she really sucks. This is the first time I’ve seen “gun hoarding” specifically. People wouldn’t be hoarding stuff as much if the state wasn’t constantly picking away at our rights to have nice things. When the registry requirement goes live the people with significant collections who decide to comply will likely get an unwelcome knock on the door.

I was discussing this with my wife at breakfast, she said “I really like my career and our life here, but we may have to move”.

 

[HorizontalHunter]

What is interesting, and was posted in another thread, is the 8/1 date says lawfully possessed by FFL or LTC holder. Every lower, complaint, and even non-complaint rifle was lawfully possessed by a MA FFL.

Nope. They come from other sources as well. Many bought rifles legal to own out of state.

 

[LakeTrout]

Wow, she really sucks. This is the first time I’ve seen “gun hoarding” specifically.

Just another deep state strategy to eliminate gun dealers

 

[safetyfirst2125]

How do you interpret the two registration clauses? The pre-7/20 duplicates says it need to be sold, owned, and registered. That seems clear, FA-10 by 7/19. So, lower bought and not built and registered by 7/19 doesn’t meet this criteria and is not an exempt copy/duplicate.

The 8/1 grandfather says lawfully owned, and shall registered under the new 121B, and serialized under the new 121C.

The wording is very different between these sections and I don’t think it’s unintentional? Why not under 8/1 say it the same way if that’s what they meant? Lawfully owned and registered by 8/1.

Anti LE will just arrest anyone with a semi rifle and “let the lawyers figure it out”.

Recognize that’s where we are.

 

[safetyfirst2125]

The next thing I’m wondering in this state, you might want to go with the judge over a jury… the only jury trial I went to charges got dropped before we got there because it was nonsense.

Western MA: jury.

Rest of MA: judge shop if you can afford the lawyers with the ability to do that.

 

[The Anchor]

Wow, she really sucks. This is the first time I’ve seen “gun hoarding” specifically.

"prosecute gun owners whose reckless conduct leads to unintended gun violence though theft and unauthorized use"... EABFBOD! pass the blame from the criminal ( now the victim) to the victim ( now the criminal).....

 

[TLB]

True to Mass asshattery in politics, the answer you will get is hire an attorney to tell you.
You won't get an answer other than being cuffed and stuffed if you raise their ire.
Pay your taxes and stop questioning, slave.

And the answer will be equivocal until there is some case law and then it will still be shades of gray for many issues.

 

[LLF]

Wow, she really sucks. This is the first time I’ve seen “gun hoarding” specifically.

This is all campaign BS, not law.

 

[BroncoAZ]

This is all campaign BS, not law.

True, but in this effectively one party state they are ramrodding through basically whatever progressive wet dreams they have as law.

 

[MGnoob]

This is all campaign BS, not law.

That’s the most intelligent thing I heard. I’m pretty much not gonna do anything different. once they f*** me over it’s gonna be a go fund me f***ing Kyle Rittenhouse and get away with it. I’m pretty sure I can.

 

[slipknot]

only two days left before the freedom door closes.

Yep
We look forward to the FA 10 website crashing Wednesday evening when all those Lower’s get transacted into it. I feel for those who make a living in the industry but life is hard and we all have burdens.
Some are in the club, so their burden is less, as George Carlin said, it’s a big club, and we AIN’T in it.

 

[Drix]

This is all campaign BS, not law.

For sure feels like Healey is going full retard for the federal appointment again- it's that time of the electoral cycle.

 

[EJFudd]

only two days left before the freedom door closes.

I'm as ready as I'll ever be for this obscene, blatantly unconstitutional new law. No last minute $3,000 AR-work-alike guns for this poor old man. All I want now is for the lawsuits to begin. What used to be my guns & ammo budget is now my 2A litigation support budget.

 

[bigred460]

I'm as ready as I'll ever be for this obscene, blatantly unconstitutional new law. No last minute $3,000 AR-work-alike guns for this poor old man. All I want now is for the lawsuits to begin. What used to be my guns & ammo budget is now my 2A litigation support budget.

Actually looking forward to writing those checks.

 

[EJFudd]

For sure feels like Healey is going full retard for the federal appointment again- it's that time of the electoral cycle.

Well, the state is collapsing into financial chaos under Maura... so it would be a good time for her to make the jump if the Dims cheat enough to get Kamala in.

 

[EJFudd]

"prosecute gun owners whose reckless conduct leads to unintended gun violence though theft and unauthorized use"... EABFBOD! pass the blame from the criminal ( now the victim) to the victim ( now the criminal).....

If that isn't the ultimate anti-white, pro-criminal shifting of the blame for crime from the criminals to the most vetted, law-abiding people in the state, then I don't know what it is.

 

[bigbravehog]

NRA says it's suing over new Mass. gun law targeting 'ghost guns'

The NRA's lobbying arm thanked a "bipartisan group" of lawmakers who opposed the bill, but only eight state Democrats crossed the aisle.

www.boston.com

 

[Drix]

Well, the state is collapsing into financial chaos under Maura... so it would be a good time for her to make the jump if the Dims cheat enough to get Kamala in.

The dems don't need to cheat, Republicans are like native americans across the country, they're getting smaller and their voices are basically just faint echos.

Grandstand all you want, fact is the younger generations are learning to hate Republicans and their ideals and the 20 somethings are migrating away from the party for similar reasons. We got baby boomers and older, and in places where Republicans do have young blood the population is so small it doesn't matter.

The future is looking bleak for the Republican party, and no, Trump isn't going to save it- he's not changing hearts and minds and progressively transforming the party, he's polarizing it and hoping the haters just die or leave- that isn't going to happen, if it were we wouldn't have to keep seeing Whoopi on the view.

 

[EJFudd]

The dems don't need to cheat, Republicans are like native americans across the country, they're getting smaller and their voices are basically just faint echos.

Grandstand all you want, fact is the younger generations are learning to hate Republicans and their ideals and the 20 somethings are migrating away from the party for similar reasons. We got baby boomers and older, and in places where Republicans do have young blood the population is so small it doesn't matter.

The future is looking bleak for the Republican party, and no, Trump isn't going to save it- he's not changing hearts and minds and progressively transforming the party, he's polarizing it and hoping the haters just die or leave- that isn't going to happen, if it were we wouldn't have to keep seeing Whoopi on the view.

I will record your enthusiastic vote for Kamala and Communism.

 

[DJBrad]

NRA says it's suing over new Mass. gun law targeting 'ghost guns'

The NRA's lobbying arm thanked a "bipartisan group" of lawmakers who opposed the bill, but only eight state Democrats crossed the aisle.

www.boston.com

Paywall.

Here’s the reader cooy/paste:


The National Rifle Association’s lobbying arm said it will challenge the new gun reform bill Governor Maura Healey signed into law last week, which the group called “one of the most extreme gun control bills in the country.”

The law strengthens oversight on “ghost guns” — homemade, unserialized firearms that are untraceable, and guns made with a 3D printer. The law also expands Massachusetts’s red flag law, allowing family members, healthcare workers, law enforcement, and licensing authorities to petition to suspend a person’s right to carry a gun.

Executive Director of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action Randy Kozuch said the NRA “will be challenging this law to restore the rights guaranteed to Bay Staters by the U.S. Constitution.”

“With Governor Healey’s signature, Massachusetts has enacted one of the most egregious and freedom-restricting laws in the history of the Commonwealth,” Kozuch said in a statement. “We are thankful for the bipartisan group of legislators who stood against gun registries and the banning of commonly owned firearms and standard magazines.”

A spokesperson for Healey said in a statement to Boston.com that Healey has experience with the NRA.

“Governor Healey is a former Attorney General with a record of successfully defeating the NRA’s attempts to undermine our state’s strong gun laws,” spokesperson Karissa Hand said. “Our administration is confident in the legality of this legislation and will strongly oppose any attempts to weaken community safety.”

The measure passed handily in both the Massachusetts House of Representatives and the Senate, but some Democrats crossed the aisle to oppose the measure. The bill passed in the Senate 35-5, where state Senator Marc Pacheco of Taunton joined the four Republicans to oppose it.

In the House, Representatives Colleen Garry of Dracut, Patricia Haddad of Somerset, Kathleen LaNatra of Kingston, David Robertson of Tewksbury, Alan Silvia of Fall River, Jeffrey Turco of Winthrop, and Jonathan Zlotnik of Gardner all voted against the bill. The House passed the gun reform bill 124-33.

The “act modernizing firearms laws” will also revamp the application process for a license to carry, expand the definition of “assault weapons,” and criminalize the possession of firearms in government buildings, courts, and election and polling areas, Healey announced.

Healey also targeted gun modifications and imposed strict penalties for devices such as Glock switches, which turn a legal firearm into a fully automatic weapon.

“Massachusetts is proud of our strong gun laws, but there is always more work to be done to keep our communities safe from violence,” Healey said in a statement last week. “This law will save lives, and I’m grateful to the Legislature and gun safety advocates for their hard work to see this through.”

This article has been updated to include a comment from Governor Maura Healey.

 

[EJFudd]

Paywall.

Here’s the reader cooy/paste:


The National Rifle Association’s lobbying arm said it will challenge the new gun reform bill Governor Maura Healey signed into law last week, which the group called “one of the most extreme gun control bills in the country.”

The law strengthens oversight on “ghost guns” — homemade, unserialized firearms that are untraceable, and guns made with a 3D printer. The law also expands Massachusetts’s red flag law, allowing family members, healthcare workers, law enforcement, and licensing authorities to petition to suspend a person’s right to carry a gun.

Executive Director of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action Randy Kozuch said the NRA “will be challenging this law to restore the rights guaranteed to Bay Staters by the U.S. Constitution.”

“With Governor Healey’s signature, Massachusetts has enacted one of the most egregious and freedom-restricting laws in the history of the Commonwealth,” Kozuch said in a statement. “We are thankful for the bipartisan group of legislators who stood against gun registries and the banning of commonly owned firearms and standard magazines.”

A spokesperson for Healey said in a statement to Boston.com that Healey has experience with the NRA.

“Governor Healey is a former Attorney General with a record of successfully defeating the NRA’s attempts to undermine our state’s strong gun laws,” spokesperson Karissa Hand said. “Our administration is confident in the legality of this legislation and will strongly oppose any attempts to weaken community safety.”

The measure passed handily in both the Massachusetts House of Representatives and the Senate, but some Democrats crossed the aisle to oppose the measure. The bill passed in the Senate 35-5, where state Senator Marc Pacheco of Taunton joined the four Republicans to oppose it.

In the House, Representatives Colleen Garry of Dracut, Patricia Haddad of Somerset, Kathleen LaNatra of Kingston, David Robertson of Tewksbury, Alan Silvia of Fall River, Jeffrey Turco of Winthrop, and Jonathan Zlotnik of Gardner all voted against the bill. The House passed the gun reform bill 124-33.

The “act modernizing firearms laws” will also revamp the application process for a license to carry, expand the definition of “assault weapons,” and criminalize the possession of firearms in government buildings, courts, and election and polling areas, Healey announced.

Healey also targeted gun modifications and imposed strict penalties for devices such as Glock switches, which turn a legal firearm into a fully automatic weapon.

“Massachusetts is proud of our strong gun laws, but there is always more work to be done to keep our communities safe from violence,” Healey said in a statement last week. “This law will save lives, and I’m grateful to the Legislature and gun safety advocates for their hard work to see this through.”

This article has been updated to include a comment from Governor Maura Healey.

Funny how the MA leftist media always mentions ghosts and switches, but ignores the other 96% of the bill provisions DimocRATS put in there to completely destroy legit gun dealers and gun ownership within MA,

 

[pupchow]

"prosecute gun owners whose reckless conduct leads to unintended gun violence though theft and unauthorized use"... EABFBOD! pass the blame from the criminal ( now the victim) to the victim ( now the criminal).....

A challenge to her could be, take the number of acts of "gun violence" and compare that to how many could have been prevented if current sentencing mandates were actually followed by judges. You know, making use of existing lawrs. I know, bad optics...

 

[silversquirrel]

Paywall.

Here’s the reader cooy/paste:


The National Rifle Association’s lobbying arm said it will challenge the new gun reform bill Governor Maura Healey signed into law last week, which the group called “one of the most extreme gun control bills in the country.”

The law strengthens oversight on “ghost guns” — homemade, unserialized firearms that are untraceable, and guns made with a 3D printer. The law also expands Massachusetts’s red flag law, allowing family members, healthcare workers, law enforcement, and licensing authorities to petition to suspend a person’s right to carry a gun.

Executive Director of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action Randy Kozuch said the NRA “will be challenging this law to restore the rights guaranteed to Bay Staters by the U.S. Constitution.”

“With Governor Healey’s signature, Massachusetts has enacted one of the most egregious and freedom-restricting laws in the history of the Commonwealth,” Kozuch said in a statement. “We are thankful for the bipartisan group of legislators who stood against gun registries and the banning of commonly owned firearms and standard magazines.”

A spokesperson for Healey said in a statement to Boston.com that Healey has experience with the NRA.

“Governor Healey is a former Attorney General with a record of successfully defeating the NRA’s attempts to undermine our state’s strong gun laws,” spokesperson Karissa Hand said. “Our administration is confident in the legality of this legislation and will strongly oppose any attempts to weaken community safety.”

The measure passed handily in both the Massachusetts House of Representatives and the Senate, but some Democrats crossed the aisle to oppose the measure. The bill passed in the Senate 35-5, where state Senator Marc Pacheco of Taunton joined the four Republicans to oppose it.

In the House, Representatives Colleen Garry of Dracut, Patricia Haddad of Somerset, Kathleen LaNatra of Kingston, David Robertson of Tewksbury, Alan Silvia of Fall River, Jeffrey Turco of Winthrop, and Jonathan Zlotnik of Gardner all voted against the bill. The House passed the gun reform bill 124-33.

The “act modernizing firearms laws” will also revamp the application process for a license to carry, expand the definition of “assault weapons,” and criminalize the possession of firearms in government buildings, courts, and election and polling areas, Healey announced.

Healey also targeted gun modifications and imposed strict penalties for devices such as Glock switches, which turn a legal firearm into a fully automatic weapon.

“Massachusetts is proud of our strong gun laws, but there is always more work to be done to keep our communities safe from violence,” Healey said in a statement last week. “This law will save lives, and I’m grateful to the Legislature and gun safety advocates for their hard work to see this through.”

This article has been updated to include a comment from Governor Maura Healey.

Another article outing the Dems who voted no. And how dare the NRA be against ggghosttt gggunzzz

 

[DJBrad]

Another article outing the Dems who voted no. And how dare the NRA be against ggghosttt gggunzzz

Yup. “Ghost” “Safety” “Violence” “Community”


These buzzwords are vapid and vacuous.

 

[Individualist]

A challenge to her could be, take the number of acts of "gun violence" and compare that to how many could have been prevented if current sentencing mandates were actually followed by judges. You know, making use of existing lawrs. I know, bad optics...

 

[citoriguy]

Wow, she really sucks. This is the first time I’ve seen “gun hoarding” specifically. People wouldn’t be hoarding stuff as much if the state wasn’t constantly picking away at our rights to have nice things. When the registry requirement goes live the people with significant collections who decide to comply will likely get an unwelcome knock on the door.

I was discussing this with my wife at breakfast, she said “I really like my career and our life here, but we may have to move”.

Annual and/or lifetime limits on gun purchases??? That will never fly.

 

[EJFudd]

Annual and/or lifetime limits on gun purchases??? That will never fly.

DimocRAT pols say "Hold my beer..."

 

[Woodsloafer]

Well, the state is collapsing into financial chaos under Maura... so it would be a good time for her to make the jump if the Dims cheat enough to get Kamala in.

Lol, the whole country is, we just hit $35 trillion, states are going to follow suit.