The Conference Committee has sent official language out - h.4885

[JDL]

So to get clarification:

I can have a pre ban in a gun at home for self defense?

You could always have preban guns untill now it is now unclear.

 

[Individualist]

So to get clarification:

I can have a pre ban in a gun at home for self defense?

Yes, You just can’t use it to defend your life outside of your home. Because that would just be so wrong.

 

[Picton]

When I [hypothetically, Maura] carry my standard-cap mag in my Glock tomorrow?

I'm going to feel like a muthaf***in' gangsta, yo.

 

[JDL]

No, no. No

No, no. No

I dint think your nonresadent LTC means any thing right now and anyway all semiautos are baned for non residents not even shot guns

 

[JDL]

Yes, You just can’t use it to defend your life outside of your home. Because that would just be so wrong.

There is no self defense in this state you will always be arrested and have the courts sort it out. If you want more information about a real world (Massachusetts) about this contact me.

 

[Hardwired]

how much ??

Not for sale. Part of my ‘Nam collection (at least the common M14 era parts).

 

[chris_1001]

You could always have preban guns untill now it is now unclear.

Wut?

Lost me.

I’m asking about a mag.

 

[Hardwired]

It's more like this:

1) Any firearm (by the new definition, including frames) that was lawfully posessed ON Aug 1,2024 by a licensed individual (LTC or FFL) SHALL NOT be considered a ASW; provided it is registered per 121B.
2) 121B outlines a future system with 1 year implementation and 1 year registration period.
[ Time machine to future ]
Was Receiver X lawfully posessed on Aug 1, 2024? Yes. Was Receiver X a firearm? Yes. Has it been registered per 121B (before 2 years)?: Not yet... Is it an ASW? No.

Of its not an AW cuz 8/1 goodness why does it need to be double registered in a another 121B database.

So next go around they can come pick those up as contraband. That’s a Californication.

 

[JDL]

Wut?

Lost me.

I’m asking about a mag.

You can still have preban magazines, possession is not banned. There are only restrictions on what and how you can use them. They must be unloaded in a locked container unless you are on the range. The way this law is written safe storage of preban large cap magines unloaded in a locked container. I don't think this means you can use them in your gun at home. However just give a try and see how it works out. Even if you protect yourself in your home with deadly force you are going to be arrested and the ADA will charge you and let the courts sort it out. It could be just one more charge against you. No ban, just restricted use

 

[chris_1001]

You can still have preban magazines, possession is not banned. There are only restrictions on what and how you can use them. They must be unloaded in a locked container unless you are on the range. No ban just restricted use

Yes. Thanks. I was clear on that.

You mentioned pre ban guns. Those are still ok.

 

[JDL]

Yes. Thanks. I was clear on that.

You mentioned pre ban guns. Those are still ok.

Yes I missread your question sorry for the confusion.

 

[Harry Christopher]

Jim Wallace was on Cam and Company today.
Is Massachusetts Putting a Freeze on New Gun Owners?

 

[milktree]

I dint think your nonresadent LTC means any thing right now and anyway all semiautos are baned for non residents not even shot guns

Where are you reading that? Can you cite a section of the bill?

 

[PappyM3]

You can still have preban magazines, possession is not banned. There are only restrictions on what and how you can use them. They must be unloaded in a locked container unless you are on the range. The way this law is written safe storage of preban large cap magines unloaded in a locked container. I don't think this means you can use them in your gun at home. However just give a try and see how it works out. Even if you protect yourself in your home with deadly force you are going to be arrested and the ADA will charge you and let the courts sort it out. It could be just one more charge against you. No ban, just restricted use

Ho-lee…. Shit.

First of all, it’s not “only” use restrictions as if that were some trivial thing.

Second, no, this law does not make them unlawful to use at home.

Third, there are indeed self defense cases in this state where LTC holders are not charged in self defense shootings. We don’t hear about them, but they happen.

 

[milktree]

You can still have preban magazines, possession is not banned. There are only restrictions on what and how you can use them. They must be unloaded in a locked container unless you are on the range. The way this law is written safe storage of preban large cap magines unloaded in a locked container. I don't think this means you can use them in your gun at home. However just give a try and see how it works out. Even if you protect yourself in your home with deadly force you are going to be arrested and the ADA will charge you and let the courts sort it out. It could be just one more charge against you. No ban, just restricted use

Did you even read the bill? I ask because you seem to have a *LOT* of misunderstandings about what’s in it.

Full cap mags are banned from possession unless:
- pre ’94 AND any of the following:
- in your home
- at a gun range
- at someone else’s place if you have permission
- a gun shop for repair
- a police station for turn-in/destruction
- unloaded in a locked container to or from any of those places.

 

[maltc]

Did you even read the bill? I ask because you seem to have a *LOT* of misunderstandings about what’s in it.

Full cap mags are banned from possession unless:
- pre ’94 AND any of the following:
- in your home
- at a gun range
- at someone else’s place if you have permission
- a gun shop for repair
- a police station for turn-in/destruction
- unloaded in a locked container to or from any of those places.

Exactly. Goals bs is NOT THE BILL. It’s clear as day the only requirement for locking up pre ban mags are during transportation. I even got toby from cape anne to ammend their previous statement.
^@chris_1001

 

[chris_1001]

Full cap mags are banned from possession unless:

- pre ’94 AND any of the following:
- in your home
- at a gun range
- at someone else’s place if you have permission
- a gun shop for repair
- a police station for turn-in/destruction
- unloaded in a locked container to or from any of those places.

Hahhahahahaha

So which gun shops do magazine repair?

Larry won’t ship mag followers, so I guess I need a pro to upgrade a pre 1994 mag

 

[pastera]

So to get clarification:

I can have a pre ban in a gun at home for self defense?

Yes

 

[pastera]

You could always have preban guns untill now it is now unclear.

In the home it is perfectly clear

The only place in the law requiring a large capacity feeding device to be unloaded and locked in a container is for transport.

 

[chris_1001]

Yes

Just wanted to be clear for self defense vs not.

 

[pastera]

View attachment 904791

And I found what I believe to be two errors

Section 36 - this is for LTC but uses FID

Section 59 - plaintiff is 70 but they call out expenses as an issue however over 70 renewal is free.

 

[pastera]

Just wanted to be clear for self defense vs not.

You can pleasure yourself with it in your home for all the law cares
Bit if you do keep it between you and @Reptile - we'd rather not know.

 

[chris_1001]

You can pleasure yourself with it in your home for all the law cares
Bit if you do keep it between you and @Reptile - we'd rather not know.

I’m still working my way though some pre ban high capacity fleshlights.

 

[wildwest]

I’m still working my way though some pre ban high capacity fleshlights.

You just woke up @Reptile

 

[wildwest]

Damnit.. I should have read above and not just the latest post

 

[chris_1001]

You just woke up @Reptile

i make sure I do not say his name 3 time infront of a mirror

Rapetile-

 

[Jenska22]

elitpeR

 

[Redsox802]

Somebody is misunderstanding something. He has been selling the same AR & AK alternatives (i.e., non-copy/non-duplicate guns) as everyone else.

Probably was ranting about ARs specifically. I went to Northeast Arms a year ago, saw stuff on the walls like MCX, SCAR, etc and made the mistake of asking if they had stripped AR lowers. Guy was obviously pissed and told me if he sold me that we would both get a fed with a warrant on our doorstep. I didn’t bother to ask why a fed would care about a state level enforcement notice that had no legal weight regardless. Don’t mind people selling what they want to sell but don’t make shit up and lie to your customers.

 

[JDL]

Ho-lee…. Shit.

First of all, it’s not “only” use restrictions as if that were some trivial thing.

Second, no, this law does not make them unlawful to use at home.

Third, there are indeed self defense cases in this state where LTC holders are not charged in self defense shootings. We don’t hear about them, but they happen.

I am corrected now and reeducated. Thank you

 

[milktree]

Hahhahahahaha

So which gun shops do magazine repair?

None, ever?

The “for repair” language is boiler plate, littered through MGL.