I disagree. They are on the approved roster. There is no official list which prohibits them for consumer safety. At least that list has never been produced. Has she ever said how it’s actually against the law?
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I disagree. They are on the approved roster. There is no official list which prohibits them for consumer safety. At least that list has never been produced. Has she ever said how it’s actually against the law?
She doesn't need to. She has extensive evidence, unfortunately, that innuendo and assertion are all it takes for her to control many, even most, of this state's gun people.
A few sales here and there does not bother her all that much. She knows she has shut off most of the spigot.
MaroonedinMA
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Yes but I was reacting to the fact that they ARE on the roster.
HorizontalHunter
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With no roster in place, post 10/23, if I wanted to purchase a long gun (non ASF) from an unlicensed resident would the transfer be possible at an FFL?
I am assuming this will be dead as well until a roster is in place.
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Bob
I am assuming this will be dead as well until a roster is in place.
Thanks,
Bob
Wrong. LE is getting f***ed, too. It's pretty delicious.
Most Glock certainly are on the roster but I doubt that many dealers are going to be willing to rug sweep because of the cmr-940 bullshit but I expect a few will still do it.
Whoops.Wrong. LE is getting f***ed, too. It's pretty delicious.
Cmr940 is not law per se it's a regulation and previous attorney general's stated that glocks product does not comply with the regulations.
If a dealer defies cmr940 they can't get thrown in prison but they could get more or less sued by the AG's office for monetary damages.
Can’t use a MA FFL, but could use an out of state FFL if you’re legal to purchase and posses there, and seller can posses there too. Rifle or shotgun needs to be legal to posses in MA and you’ll want to call to make sure the dealer is okay with MA. Many FFLs don’t want the headache to confirm, but border FFLs usually know the rules better. Still, call ahead.
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So if I want to buy a non-boring long gun from a MA dealer, its needs to be a one in a million, left over from 8/1 gun. If I want to buy a non-boring long gun from a MA dealer after 10/23, we need to wait for MA.gov to put it on a list first. Pretty much any non-rimfire semi-auto. Is that accurate?
HahaWrong. LE is getting f***ed, too. It's pretty delicious.
When I told that cop him and his fam won’t get that gun they wanted after 10/23 he said, “Whoa, I gotta take a look at that new law…”
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The third paragraph of the Approved Roster List specifically states that..."Massachusetts licensed firearms dealers should note that the transfers of handguns are also subject to the Attorney General’s Handgun Sales Regulations, 940 CMR 16.00, et seq. Firearms on this Approved Firearms Roster do not necessarily comply with the requirements of the Attorney General’s Handgun Sales Regulations." (bold font mine)
Pretty much everything after 10/23 except for that which is already on the roster. Even then the only semiauto would be a shotgun with 1 feature. Centerfire semiauto rifles are basically toast.
All non MA FFLs that don't suck will be selling some limited subset of long guns to mass residents without much issue. It would not be shocking to expect most to be pretty conservative though
Fixed it for you. Even the boring shit must be on the roster to be sold in Mass after the cutoff.
After 10/22 you will literally have to drive out of the state to buy even the most boring long gun unless that gun gets put on the roster.
Well there's the exempt guns like mini 14 and other boring shit that's very similar like semiauto hunting rifles etc. Or other junk with integral magazines.
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So even no pistol grip, no bayo lug, no flash hider M1A's?
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So by the sound of it, all they really have to do is not populate the list and dealers will shut down one by one.
I don't think the state will be that obstructionist but this effect is the same like who the f*** is going to put like 9,000 long guns on the list and then a good portion of them probably won't pass the testing because a lot of rifles and shotguns are simply not built to be used the same way as a handgun is in terms of drop safety or whatever.
Not to mention think of all the skus unless dealers and manufs get smart and start exploiting the "substantially similar" clause which basically lets you certify one model and get all of the rest for free but there are only a couple of Manufacturers that do this with handguns the rest of them all cuck out.
You got it. Those on the 922A appendix are still a-ok.
All stuff on appendix A sec 922 from ‘94 awb is good to go. Can someone find the entire list of those firearms? @drgrant ?
For the new law you could have 1 feature only for semiautomatic centerfire rifles with detachable mags and 1 feature only for semiautomatic shotguns. Pistols are an interesting case based on no 50oz rule so that includes some and excludes others.
(a) a semiautomatic, centerfire rifle with the capacity to accept a detachable feeding device and includes at least 2 of the following features: (i) a folding or telescopic stock; (ii) a thumbhole stock or pistol grip; (iii) a forward grip or second handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (iv) a threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor or muzzle break or similar feature; or (v) a shroud that encircles either all or part of the barrel designed to shield the bearer’s hand from heat, excluding a slide that encloses the barrel.
(b) a semiautomatic pistol with the capacity to accept a detachable feeding device and includes at least 2 of the following features: (i) the capacity to accept a feeding device that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; (ii) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (iii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip or silencer; or (iv) a shroud that encircles either all or part of the barrel designed to shield the bearer’s hand from heat, excluding a slide that encloses the barrel.
(c) a semiautomatic shotgun that includes at least 2 of the following features: (i) a folding or telescopic stock; (ii) a thumbhole stock or pistol grip; (iii) a protruding grip for the non-trigger hand; or (iv) the capacity to accept a detachable feeding device.
Got that approved list from 94? I can’t seem to find it.
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I'd have to look it up I never really cared to pay attention to it. I know in the new law "mini 14 without folding stock" is exempt.
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how soWrong. LE is getting f***ed, too. It's pretty delicious.
Hmm. I wonder if that will even make a future roster or not.
After 10/22 mass dealers cannot sell any "ASW" or normal mag to cops whether on letterhead or as individuals. Theres still an exemption but its not like the previous laws that specifically exempted that activity at every turn.
I think the CMR 940 exenption LE thing will still exist though; so there will be plenty of faglaroid 2 bit privsale glock flippers still flipping their blue label mickey mouse profiteer shit on NES for stupid money, I don't think that's going to go away anytime soon.
