Yes it was like 3 seconds. Basically said a gun reform bill passed. It targets ghost guns. I think that was it. I was flabberghasted. I'm convinced the only people who have read it and tried to understand it's effects is "our side"
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The Conference Committee has sent official language out - h.4885
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Cause they're only reading the buzz words, not true consequences
VTski4x4
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Our government hates us, and we should hate it. Make sure you let your dem friends know you hold them personally responsible for this bullshit.
Cap
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You were celebrating the fact that this triggers more guns being sold. It also coincides with newer shooters being locked out.
Unbunch your panties - it wasn't an attack on you, but rather a reminder of the next generation's plight.
I have recurring donations set up for fpc (among other ad hoc donations) Thanks for asking though.
I was expecting more of a story, this has been in the works for a bit
Yes.
Every claim in the pressor about “keeping our citizens safe”, or “protecting our communities”, or “common sense” are simply strawmen to infringe on our rights as legal gun owners.
It’s all bullshit and not one thing will change to fulfill any one of those three mantras.
Marty McFly
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xero2099
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Make all of the bill take effect immediately instead of 90 days
Whutmeworry
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They don’t want to tell the whole story, especially the part about the fact that in 90 days FFLs may not be able to sell a single rifle or shotgun of ANY kind just as the hunting season is getting into full swing.
Never forget the media hates us
"Ghost Guns" is their pet catchphrase. Lefties use it all the time without knowing what it means, but it sounds scary so it's something they repeat again and again.
The technicalities of this law, which matter so much to those of us on NES, would be impossible for non-gun people to understand. Remember: most of them think five-year-olds can buy whole guns off the internet, even in MA. Every anti I've ever spoken with, once I've explained about LTCs and fees and suitability, has thought I was lying about all that.
They don't care about any of that, so the news won't cover it. They'll stick with the snappy catchphrase.
As I said, these are lawyers and politicians whose arrogance does not let them see their own errors. The red flag law is probably the worst part of this all, because we know there are a lot of weak, soft people in this state who will abuse it to get back at those who did not commit any act that could imply a threat to life.
All of this bill has to be cast down as the unconstitutional, authoritarian piece of shit it is.
All of this bill has to be cast down as the unconstitutional, authoritarian piece of shit it is.
The media is truly the devil’s megaphone.
And you can forget about competition with out of state competitors or hunters, they will be required to register their gun(s) before coming into the state, who is going to do that.
Artie
NES Member
This law wouldn't have stopped that 22 year old getting shot in brockton last night
I dont think there was anything in there that would actually stop crime.
Unless they made murder illegal too?
1911rnr
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You were celebrating the fact that this triggers more guns being sold. It also coincides with newer shooters being locked out.
Unbunch your panties - it wasn't an attack on you, but rather a reminder of the next generation's plight.
I have recurring donations set up for fpc (among other ad hoc donations) Thanks for asking though.
You clearly misunderstood my initial post, but that's okay.
Whutmeworry
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I’m wondering if there is any kind of streamlining of the process of getting this in front of SCOTUS given that it has the potential of being a complete ban on RKBA for 18-21 year olds. After all, they’re not allowed to own handguns so if FFLs are also prohibited from selling them rifles or shotguns…
Illegaler
This bill is critically important to us, but there are literally hundreds of cases involving civil rights that are just as important to the people involved in those cases nationwide, and only nine people to decide whether or not they're worth hearing. Nothing makes this one particularly special.
SCOTUS has demonstrated repeatedly that they're not interested in granting cert to gun cases that haven't yet percolated up through the appellate levels. They're not likely to make an exception for this law, which is at least consistent.
The good news is that we might not have to wait for this case to reach SCOTUS. Other cases in other circuits are much farther along than this one, and will get to the Supremes within a year or so. Those rulings are likely to have a profound effect on certain aspects of this law, too.
Nor would it have stopped the spray and pray that killed Juanita’s son Darrell on that Springfield porch. It’s not the criminal but it’s the gun’s fault…
From the press release:
Juanita Batchelor, a survivor of gun violence, a volunteer with the Massachusetts chapter of Moms Demand Action, and the Executive Director of The Darrell Lee Jenkins Jr. Resource Center:
“Massachusetts has long been a national leader on gun safety and today, Governor Healey is taking another step forward by signing this life-saving legislation into law. We’re grateful that our lawmakers and Governor Healey continue to recognize the need for ever-stronger gun safety laws like a prohibition on ghost guns and a ban on guns in places like government buildings and polling places. Every life lost to gun violence is preventable and with the enactment of this law, now our communities will have more tools to prevent these tragedies.”
Just commenting on what the law WONT do
Past, present, or future. You think it will stop criminals criminalling?
This whole things raising my blood pressure too much again, more so from their lying than the law itself. Im gonna go back to not thinking about it while im about to go on vacation.
Good luck to everyone buying out the shops this week
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Am I reading correctly that this law bans online ammo sales?
pastera
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I am tempted to say the best way to comply with the registration is to take everything down to the police station and suck start each gun until the police help you out.
The ink hasn't dried and people are rushing to comply - they are why we are in this position.
pastera
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It doesn't if you don't plan on complying
I will not vote for either my house or senator. Which I made apparent when speaking to then
But I live in mass
But I live in mass
