Really, now that's not what I was expecting LOL. That actually holds better than the wood screw?
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Really, now that's not what I was expecting LOL. That actually holds better than the wood screw?
dwarven1
Lonely Mountain Arms
Yup. Wood screws have a nasty tendency to strip out under constant and changing stress. That's why the rear stud is a wood screw (because there's a LOT less stress put on it, and there's no place to put a nut anyway) and the front is a machine screw with nut.
KMM696
NES Member
While we're talking slings & studs, let me give you my opinion on why this style:
is NOT your best choice for an LTR. If you're using the GI sling, the rear swivel being one piece is no big deal - the GI sling clips and unclips quite nicely. The front works fine while you're shooting. When you're done shooting, though, and need to clear the line, you will need to get your arm out of the sling, safe & clear the rifle, score targets/load mags/talk/drink/whatever and then get back into the sling, adjust it, try to find the same spot on your arm, adjust again and waste valuable prep time.
With a quick disconnect, you can remove the sling from the rifle, and then leave the sling on your arm until the next course of fire - no constant readjusting. It's not impossible to use the fixed sling swivels - but I quickly figured out that the QDs are easier, especially on Sunday of an Appleseed.
is NOT your best choice for an LTR. If you're using the GI sling, the rear swivel being one piece is no big deal - the GI sling clips and unclips quite nicely. The front works fine while you're shooting. When you're done shooting, though, and need to clear the line, you will need to get your arm out of the sling, safe & clear the rifle, score targets/load mags/talk/drink/whatever and then get back into the sling, adjust it, try to find the same spot on your arm, adjust again and waste valuable prep time.
With a quick disconnect, you can remove the sling from the rifle, and then leave the sling on your arm until the next course of fire - no constant readjusting. It's not impossible to use the fixed sling swivels - but I quickly figured out that the QDs are easier, especially on Sunday of an Appleseed.
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Any reco's on the swivel since the Shooter's Ridge is out of stock?
I could just get this kit and not buy the swivel/studs separately...
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=705310
I could just get this kit and not buy the swivel/studs separately...
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=705310
While we're talking slings & studs, let me give you my opinion on why this style:
is not your best choice for an LTR. If you're using the GI sling, the rear swivel being one piece is no big deal - the GI sling clips and unclips quite nicely. The front works fine while you're shooting. When you're done shooting, though, and need to clear the line, you will need to get your arm out of the sling, safe & clear the rifle, score targets/load mags/talk/drink/whatever and then get back into the sling, adjust it, try to find the same spot on your arm, adjust again and waste valuable prep time.
With a quick disconnect, you can remove the sling from the rifle, and then leave the sling on your arm until the next course of fire - no constant readjusting. It's not impossible to use the fixed sling swivels - but I quickly figured out that the QDs are easier, especially on Sunday of an Appleseed.
That's so obvious it's brilliant. I never would have thought to do that but it's staring you right in the face. Thanks!
KMM696
NES Member
Yep, buy the QD ones. Stratocaster, those Uncle Mikes are perfect - the set I should have bought, instead of being cheap and using what I had lying around the bench.
That's the ticket.
IIRC, they were out of stock, with none due in for quite a while, when I posted them separately on the Appleseed forum LTR page. Remember, that was 2007 sometime when I made that post there.
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I bought the swivel/mount set, a set of machine screw/wood screw mounts, AND a set of dual wood screw mounts. ![[smile]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/001.gif "Smile [smile]")
I like to be prepared
Edit: Has anybody tried through bolting the front mount and using a washer with nut in a counterbored hole under the barrel? That would solve mounts being "pulled" out of the stock
I like to be prepared
Edit: Has anybody tried through bolting the front mount and using a washer with nut in a counterbored hole under the barrel? That would solve mounts being "pulled" out of the stock
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That makes no sense. The screw/nut version has the nut in a counterbore, and trust me, they DON'T pull out. The washer would be counterproductive, as that will keep the sides of the nut from holding the wood.
Chuck
NES Member
While we're talking slings & studs,...
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FYI, that looks just like the rear swivel on the 10/22 Target. When I went to replace it with a quick-disconnect I found out the "eye" wasn't a through hole. But after a quick trip over to the work bench with a cordless drill it was!
The front stud on a 10/22 Target does have a through hole. Now I have to install the studs for my wife's carbine.
Is there a way to measure the right location for the front stud for a short shooter? If I have the wife hold the rifle in a good position, I want the front stud 1, 2, ?? inches in front of her hand? I'm going to truncate the fore-end as much as possible for her so she has less to hold up.
thanks,
Chuck
I think I figured out where I got confused!
When Dwarven1 said:
For some reason, I took it as NOTHING was a through hole. So you remove the stock, drill a clearance hole for the bolt all the way through the front end of the stock, then make a counterbore for the nut to sit in under the barrel.
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dwarven1
Lonely Mountain Arms
Ouch... My bad; I'm sorry. There's a small through hole the diameter of the stud threads. There's a larger hole that does not go all the way through bored from inside the stock, just under the barrel, where the nut goes down into.
Is that clearer, or did I just confuse matters more?
Nope I'm good now.
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This method is exactly the way I would see to be the most effective.Now I just need my Midway, Tech Sight, and sling order from Nickle's buddy to come in and I've got my self an LTR!
An alternate source:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/41796-1.html 1" Swivels
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/RGR018-1.html Bolt release, mag release, etc.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/45634-1.html 1 1/4" Swivels
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Check out their prices on cleaning supplies!
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/41796-1.html 1" Swivels
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/RGR018-1.html Bolt release, mag release, etc.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/45634-1.html 1 1/4" Swivels
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Check out their prices on cleaning supplies!
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Those are only 1"
I am apprehensive in posting this, I don't want to confuse the issue. I used blind nuts for my front swivel. The countersink hole is less critical. Those are just a representaion of a blind nut and not the exact ones I used.
Just checking in and making sure, if I am buying TechSights, should I get the TSR100? Or the TSR200? Also since I have a 10/22 Target, I should get the TS157 .920 barrel adapter right?
Picked up my 10/22 today and have parts on order to make it into a LTR. I've been researching this and was wondering where all of you decide to mount the studs for the slings. Also, is it worth getting the centering jig to drill the holes if you do not have a drill press?
I bought the 100
Look back a few pages on this thread.
The centering jig is good, if the appearance after concerns you, and you're willing to pay the cost. I didn't use one myself.
A couple left!
Gents,
I have 5 1" tan slings left from my last group buy, (oiled): $25, includes shipping. PM me if you want one.
Regards,
Andy
PS Photos of similar: http://shottist.com/contractor.htm
Gents,
I have 5 1" tan slings left from my last group buy, (oiled): $25, includes shipping. PM me if you want one.
Regards,
Andy
PS Photos of similar: http://shottist.com/contractor.htm
namedpipes
NES Member
Hey! That looks just like mine except for the sling, WHICH HASN'T ARRIVED yet from Midway.
Question for the LTR Doctors: I have several of the more or less generic canvas slings that came with the Mosin buy last year. Will this work just as well or is there some essential length/size/dimension of the sling spec'd in the parts list?
Question for the LTR Doctors: I have several of the more or less generic canvas slings that came with the Mosin buy last year. Will this work just as well or is there some essential length/size/dimension of the sling spec'd in the parts list?
namedpipes
NES Member
