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Ultimate SHTF rifle???
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namedpipes
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I'll happy with my 10/22. It'll get the job done.
And an all terrain bicycle for getting around.
And an all terrain bicycle for getting around.
nstassel
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How you going to cash checks after the shtf?
1903Collector
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I made up a kit centered around my Ruger PC carbine and a G19. I bought a ton of those Magpul Glock mags and started off with 300 rounds of 9mm, I quickly cut that in half to 150 lol.
I went with the PC carbine (chassis model) because of the takedown feature, I put a c-more railway sight on it, sling, and changed out the trigger group. I ordered spare pins and springs to add to the kit as well as BUIS. I use the magpul G19 mags because they are cheap and they work, I consider them a one time use mag in this kit. I also have the G19 tucked in there as well as some other items but the kit is ready to grab and go but the weight adds up quickly.
I went with the PC carbine (chassis model) because of the takedown feature, I put a c-more railway sight on it, sling, and changed out the trigger group. I ordered spare pins and springs to add to the kit as well as BUIS. I use the magpul G19 mags because they are cheap and they work, I consider them a one time use mag in this kit. I also have the G19 tucked in there as well as some other items but the kit is ready to grab and go but the weight adds up quickly.
If defending the home is no longer an option (or I run out of .223/556), then I think I'm with you on a 22lr rifle being the best option for mobile use. Could easily carry 1,000+ rounds without it being a hinderance. I'd personally want an etched scope for SHTF, or just use irons.
i have 2 sets of those in the parts box. would prefer that 100% to any red dot.
thermal on a good ar10 - not a puny .223 - is quite efficient, again, a lot of ukrainian snipers are using now x4 magnification thermals with a very good efficiency.
i would love to get myself a good flir based unit, but, it is too cost prohibitive what a good one goes for.
.223 will not go through armor well compared to a black tip 7.62.
namedpipes
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The Appleseed threads will have a link to the parts needed to make a 10/22 much friendlier, to including real sights to a sling, a catch for the open bolt, etc.
A 22lr with a physically marked/etched BDC scope (so you can reach out to 100 yards effectively unless its windy) and back-up irons isn't a bad plan.
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StevieP
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If the S really is H'ing T F, everything I've got would be suitable for personal/home defense, sustenance hunting, or tyrant control
shotgun w/ various barrels and loads from birdshot to slugs and everything in-between
.38/.357, 9mm and .45 handguns for defense while out & about
.308 AR for 'long range' work
.308 Gunsite Scout rifle if I have to be on the move
20" scoped 'target' AR for precise shots
AR carbine for holding a position and providing cover fire
10/22 for, well, whatever you need a .22 for...
shotgun w/ various barrels and loads from birdshot to slugs and everything in-between
.38/.357, 9mm and .45 handguns for defense while out & about
.308 AR for 'long range' work
.308 Gunsite Scout rifle if I have to be on the move
20" scoped 'target' AR for precise shots
AR carbine for holding a position and providing cover fire
10/22 for, well, whatever you need a .22 for...
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Agnotology
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no, an MA variant is this:
Ah, the weapon of choice for self medication on the street corner in Springfield, Worcester, Boston, but especially any old mill town.
Agnotology
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uh..... feel free to correct me, but my understanding of thermals.... is they do not care what time of day it is.
Mosin Nagant M44 .. if the bullets don't kill 'em, I can stab 'em, set 'em on fire or cause 'em to go deaf from the concussion. And if I run out of ammo, the empty rifle is an effective club - I can bludgeon 'em to death.
I've got more than 3,000 rounds down the pipe of my M44 .. and every time I put a round in the chamber, close the bolt and pull the trigger, it goes KaBOOOOOOOM. Every. Time.
I've got more than 3,000 rounds down the pipe of my M44 .. and every time I put a round in the chamber, close the bolt and pull the trigger, it goes KaBOOOOOOOM. Every. Time.
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it just seems like a less than ideal optic during the day. Ambient temperature is higher so they’re not as good as at night, they’re range limited and humidity sensitive (if they’re like the handhelds), it’s clunky, the picture looks like shit compared to a glass lens, etc.
By far the best SHTF rifle I own, and I own more than two or three.
I've long been curious how many fellow Vz58 brethren we have on NES. I think of it as a fairly "niche" rifle, but I'm pleased to see so many of them in this thread. There also seems to be a moderately strong correlation between Vz58 owners and FAL owners.
Good taste, that's for sure.
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