We FINALLY get the law that will help us!

[fencer]

Yes. You should be licensed to carry your firearm in public only if you have demonstrated to the local "licensing authority", or to an instructor in that capacity, that you will not kill other peole in the process of discharging your firearm.

Why is this such a mental block for the MAGA here?

You holder-ons are short-sighted, And have obviously NEVER instructed in the state of Massachusetts.

I think that you are trying to impose your self righteous opinions on all, even if they don't need training..... We all agree, training is good, but it should not be mandatory.

My Dad was a WWII Marine. Fought in the Pacific in the Infantry. My brother was a Viet Nam Marine, infantry, two tours.
I was given my first rifle at 6 or 7. Taught basic marksmanship, firearms safety and was cleaning guns by the time I was 10, with my twin brother.
Dad used to take us along to the local sportsman club when we where young and he often won the clubs "Turkey Shoot". I was always so proud when mom put that enormous bird on the table and my Dad started carving it.
The first hand gun I ever shot was a 1911 when I was 10. Was taught to take it apart and clean/ field strip it at 11.
I enlisted in the Marine Corps before I got out of high school. Two weeks after graduation, I left for Parris Island. I was still 17 and Mom had to sign me in because I was still a minor. I turned 18 on the Island as we entered 3rd phase of recruit training. I shot expert with my M16-A2 and qualified with an ancient 1911 that was way older than I was. I was deployed as an 03 Marine and saw some things and went some places.

When I got my LTC, I had to get my certificate. When I picked up my application, the officer at the desk mentioned that the "firearms officer" was also an instructor and offered the course. He came to my house with a 3 ring binder and 5 minutes into his "instruction", over a glass of lemonade, sitting at my pool, he closed his binder and said "You know more about guns and Mass laws than I do." He filled out my certificate and I slid him a hundred dollar bill. We spent 30 minutes or so just talking about guns and the ones I wanted to buy and his gun collection. Total waste of time.
Now if I had settled in North Carolina when my enlistment ended, I would not have needed to jump through that hoop, or delayed my right until the politburo was satisfied.

 

[not new guy]

Holy shit OP doubled down.

 

[Tinkermatic]

The point Drgrant is making is that training costs will go up, so it will cost more for applicants to get the required training. That is the whole point of these sorts of laws — to keep guns out of the hands of poor people.

Let’s drill this point down because it’s a good one. Certain demographics are more likely to be in this financial category which someone could then
conclude makes raising the barrier to entry for obtaining an LTC inherently racist.

Is OP in favor of Boston bringing back moon island? Because that requirement was shockingly discriminatory. No buses go to moon island and you couldn’t take a taxi or ride share which means you needed to have a vehicle. Can we make an assumption as to which demographics in an urban setting may not have access to a vehicle and the ability to take multiple days off from work for an interview at BPDHQ and a trip to moon island weeks later? Never mind the entire process typically takes multiple months. So guess what many people do, just as I did when I was younger, they say f-it, it’s too much effort and that’s exactly what ‘they’ want.

Can someone remind me what a right delayed is?

 

[Picton]

Holy shit OP doubled down.

Yes, he seems like a really personable guy with an excellent sense of what his audience is looking for.

Hell, sign me up for his class!

 

[allen-1]

Yes, he seems like a really personable guy with an excellent sense of what his audience is looking for.

Hell, sign me up for his class!

If you're going to take his class, I will too.

 

[AJK129]

If you're going to take his class, I will too.

His class:


View: https://youtu.be/S7ufT_6Kgy0?si=NXQVwIaqOjI1wMdq

 

[Tinkermatic]

I’ll expand on my previous post.

How and why are we regressing? Considering what the globe went through 2020-2022 shouldn’t these requirements be streamlined? If I can get an accredited business degree from my living room why is there not a self paced training program in this oh so progressive and forward thinking state?

Hell, they could make it a higher hourly requirement and I’d be in favor if it could be done remotely. Don’t they know that there’s people with social anxiety and auditory disorders that may find a group setting and live fire in front of others stressful???

If I can choose my gender now I should damn well be able to do my basic firearms training in my brony outfit at the breakfast table with my fruity f***ing pebbles!

 

[M1911]

Let’s drill this point down because it’s a good one. Certain demographics are more likely to be in this financial category which someone could then
conclude makes raising the barrier to entry for obtaining an LTC inherently racist.

Yes, it is inherently racist, by design.

 

[DarthRevan]

Holy shit OP doubled down.

 

[ChevyGuy91]

Yes. You should be licensed to carry your firearm in public only if you have demonstrated to the local "licensing authority", or to an instructor in that capacity, that you will not kill other peole in the process of discharging your firearm.

Why is this such a mental block for the MAGA here?

You holder-ons are short-sighted, And have obviously NEVER instructed in the state of Massachusetts.

Dumb mother-f***ers, you are going to RUIN our right to carry!


View: https://youtu.be/oGCKFzGAfQ0



View: https://youtu.be/tTqRe3YZhh0



View: https://youtu.be/qRLOYTFpcK8


I'm tried of this shit, because the more incidents like this happen, the sooner YOUR right to carry will be rescinded. Which include MY right,,,

Morons.

Downvote me all you want, but education is the key. Mandating it is the salve.

View: https://youtu.be/oCIo4MCO-_U?si=l4E59EfO2DK5oGz1

 

[Admin]

OP sent me a mean PM. "Me of all people making fun of firearm licensure involving firearm safety..." Wont post it all but when I see this much uncontrolled emotion I immediately think of "mentally unstable", which typically points me to the left, and the MAGA comments confirm it. Yeah because it's probably Trump's fault, right OP?

 

[Yotacrawler]

This has nothing to do with the cost of a box of ammo.
Still too f***ing dense to get it. You will never understand, probably because you've lived in mass too long and you have mass faggot brain anti gun disease. I feel sorry for
you. You are part of the problem though.

The guy has Samwise Gamgee as his profile picture. Honestly that alone should tell you what you are dealing with.

 

[kevin9]

Yes. You should be licensed to carry your firearm in public only if you have demonstrated to the local "licensing authority", or to an instructor in that capacity, that you will not kill other peole in the process of discharging your firearm.

So, you are of the opinion that the 26 states that allow permitless carry are dangerously wrong. Statist much? Your attitude is the problem, not the cure.

Why is this such a mental block for the MAGA here?

Has nothing to do with MAGA. It has everything to do with rights and the US Constitution.

...

I'm tried of this shit, because the more incidents like this happen, the sooner YOUR right to carry will be rescinded. Which include MY right,,,

And I think I can safely say we all are tired of FUDDS and quislings who continually trade everyone's rights for modicum of temporary, perceived safety.

Morons.

Downvote me all you want, but education is the key. Mandating it is the salve.

Key to what? Increasing your income?

"Salve" I don't think that word means what you think it means, at least in this context.

 

[42!]

So, you are of the opinion that the 26 states that allow permitless carry are dangerously wrong. Statist much? Your attitude is the problem, not the cure.

Has nothing to do with MAGA. It has everything to do with rights and the US Constitution.

And I think I can safely say we all are tired of FUDDS and quislings who continually trade everyone's rights for modicum of temporary, perceived safety.

Key to what? Increasing your income?

"Salve" I don't think that word means what you think it means, at least in this context.

I think the word he was looking for was lube

 

[Dench]

Has this account always been insane or is this some new behavior from him?

 

[Picton]

Has this account always been insane or is this some new behavior from him?

I won't be bothered to search it up, but I do remember that at some point over the last couple months, I do recall giving a snarky response to something posted by this username.

It's a memorable username.

 

[newenglandjeff]

Attorney Karen MacNutt tried when Boston had the 38 Special live fire range test, with an ADA claim that a .22 should be allowed.

She lost, but the court did rule the Boston PD could not charge an exam fee.

When though? Was it pre Heller?

 

[not new guy]

I won't be bothered to search it up

Is this what the kids say these days? All 3 of my boys say they're going to "search it up" - drives my Gen X wife and I nuts.

 

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

Put down the ring, Samwell! She is not yours to hold!

 

[DemonChronicles]

 

[Rob Boudrie]

When though? Was it pre Heller?

Yes

The argument was based on ADA, not gun rights. The court decided the ADA did not apply.

 

[Blackbeard83]

Let’s drill this point down because it’s a good one. Certain demographics are more likely to be in this financial category which someone could then
conclude makes raising the barrier to entry for obtaining an LTC inherently racist.

Is OP in favor of Boston bringing back moon island? Because that requirement was shockingly discriminatory. No buses go to moon island and you couldn’t take a taxi or ride share which means you needed to have a vehicle. Can we make an assumption as to which demographics in an urban setting may not have access to a vehicle and the ability to take multiple days off from work for an interview at BPDHQ and a trip to moon island weeks later? Never mind the entire process typically takes multiple months. So guess what many people do, just as I did when I was younger, they say f-it, it’s too much effort and that’s exactly what ‘they’ want.

Can someone remind me what a right delayed is?

Literally this.

What about that single mom who is working 2 jobs to keep food on the table to feed her kids. This said mom finds out her crazy abusive ex just got out of prison. She is scared as all hell and wants to buy a firearm to protect herself and her kids from this ex. She only has a few hundred to spend. Just enough to buy a cheap pistol and a box of ammo. In this state your sh*t out of luck. You have to wait and take time out of your day to get interviewed spend $100 for the ltc. Now you want to add another burden on someone like that and have them spend more time and mone they don't have for live fire training to exercise their right. F*** that!!!

 

[pastera]

Holy shit OP doubled down.

not only doubled down... He went

 

[hennypenny]

That's NOT THE POINT, Mr. Pointy!

It is ONE STEP CLOSER to them not taking away our ability to have guns, because our licensing laws were lacking. Why is the live-fire requirement so onerous?

Can't afford it? Then step-down from the S&W performance center 1911. Jesus.

Think outside the box, man!

Only met drgrant a couple times, but I'll make sure to call him "Mr. Pointy" if I see him. He'll be honored.

 

[chris_1001]

Only met drgrant a couple times, but I'll make sure to call him "Mr. Pointy" if I see him. He'll be honored.

In! I will make sure I call him that next time I see him... Reminds me, I want to invite him to the group hug I have planned.

 

[ldi]

It’s not that Chris , - the Tuah committee group hug

 

[chris_1001]

That's NOT THE POINT, Mr. Pointy!

It is ONE STEP CLOSER to them not taking away our ability to have guns, because our licensing laws were lacking. Why is the live-fire requirement so onerous?

Can't afford it? Then step-down from the S&W performance center 1911. Jesus.

Think outside the box, man!

Weird how most all states (if not all) with constitutional carry do not require any live fire, any training and permission slips.

Yet its not a problem, but here in MA it it.

The point is (and Mr. Pointy might agree), no one here in government wants you to have a gun... And if you persist on wanting one, thay will make it as tough as they can to exercise a right.

NOW, if the government want to restrict a right until you have paid, trained and proven you are worthy of say the 1st, maybe you can go and get some training (maybe actually read the constitution and take a test), a permit and then you can come back here and tell us how rights are done.

ETA: the pic below, makes a lot of sense...

 

[chris_1001]

It’s not that Chris , - the Tuah committee group hug

Gonna call it that!!

 

[not new guy]

That's NOT THE POINT, Mr. Pointy!

It is ONE STEP CLOSER to them not taking away our ability to have guns, because our licensing laws were lacking. Why is the live-fire requirement so onerous?

Can't afford it? Then step-down from the S&W performance center 1911. Jesus.

Think outside the box, man!

What a ridiculous, naïve view. As if they actually give a shit about safety. If they cared about that, or actually making a difference, they'd go after the judiciary and the DAs that go so easy on urban offenders. They want to disarm us, and it's truly shocking that anyone paying even a moment's attention to anything over the years - let alone an actual MA gun owner - fails to see that.

 

[not new guy]

Is there any greater out yourself phrase than referring to people as "the MAGA"?