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What’s with all the hype here for the Glock 19?
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chris_1001
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Nah. Tried one once. The trigger sucked and it’s an odd ball gun.Hold my beer. How about 15 (+1) rounds of 10mm?
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I have a G20 for 10mm
Tartakovsky
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And you want to talk about shitty triggers? Glock has cornered the shitty trigger striker fired market.
chris_1001
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Tartakovsky
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So you’ve shot an FN510? The FNS9 and FN509 triggers are pretty bad, but the 510 was surprisingly good relative to the others.
chris_1001
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I finger f***ed a few. I was not impressed
Maybe they are better now. But it was a 10 lb pull with a crap reset.
My favorite is/was a HK VP9 striker trigger.
Gen 4 was worse than Gen 3 in several ways, but Gen 5 is definitely a couple steps forward.
Do you think the u notch magazines were less reliable? Or made the gun less reliable? I honestly haven’t heard of those. But I’m assuming they were older as you mentioned they were pre-ban. Have you had any chance to try that particular gun with newer magazines?
Not sure if serious, the newer FN triggers are like dragging a non wheeled dumpster over gravel with a chain. Euchh.
ETA: admittedly I havent tried the 510 yet but frankly I dont care what FN makes, because the gun won't get anywhere and wont get any support.
Functionally speaking Canik will likely outsell FN's mainstream handguns.
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Tartakovsky
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The 510 has a 5.5-6 lb trigger with a decently short reset. Again, the 509 trigger is terrible but FN did something with the 510 to make it not terrible. I love my VP9 tactical. Fantastic trigger out of the box, that said, the PPQ and PDP triggers are slightly better.
Tartakovsky
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Yes, it didn’t like the 10 rounders that came with it either. It was hot garbage.
Is it scrapey ass shit like its contemporaries? The 509 isnt heavy, but its f***ing gritty as hell. The 509s I dry fired were infinitely worse than even the FNSs I tried, the FNS was just heavy, but at least cleaner.
Tartakovsky
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Go check out a 510 and let me know what you think. Don’t take my word for it.
Interesting.
I found the Glock Gen 5 trigger to be fine.
It is not USPSA ready, but it isn't the garbage everyone talks about.
I replace triggers in almost all my guns so if a gun has a piece of sh*t trigger (like a SP 2022 or a 22/45) I don't mind saying it.
I have a 34, which is even bigger than a 17. (Actually, I have three of them…).
But the 17 is too big for me to conceal easily. So I carry the 19 instead. And since I use a red dot, the reduced sight radius is not an issue.
Yeah my first one was like that. Turns out it was the 0-4 recoil spring. Bought another and it came with the 0-4-3 and seems like Glock finally fixed the whole "Perfection" thing. Still don't hand it to a limp wristing noob tho lol.
It kinda is, out of the box, the 34 out of the box is slightly less garbagey. I have OCCs in most of mine mated with OEM minus connectors, and also a bunch of Apex kits, both of which seem to work pretty well in giving me that 20% less garbagey feel, but WRT uspsa ready.... frankly the bottom class of shooters (like me, lol) none of that shit matters anyways. I will lose more points on a stage from something like an engagement failure than anything like a gun inaccuracy problem or something like that. I am interested in trying out the new Glock OEM performance trigger or whatever the f*** its called, I just picked it up the other day.
fencer
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One thing that stands out to me is that almost everyone I know that owns a Glock, that actually shoots the thing, modifies it in some way.
Show me a Glock with a factory trigger, sights and mag release and I will show you someone that doesn't shoot very often.
Very much like the M&P/ Shield guys. "Once I got a new trigger, it became my favorite gun."
So it begs the question, why doesn't Glock just make the gun with a decent trigger? I mean, the guys at Glock must hear all of the same things we do.
If the guy behind the counter handed John Wick a factory Glock out of the box, he would have said, "Nope"
Show me a Glock with a factory trigger, sights and mag release and I will show you someone that doesn't shoot very often.
Very much like the M&P/ Shield guys. "Once I got a new trigger, it became my favorite gun."
So it begs the question, why doesn't Glock just make the gun with a decent trigger? I mean, the guys at Glock must hear all of the same things we do.
If the guy behind the counter handed John Wick a factory Glock out of the box, he would have said, "Nope"
But those are harder to conceal than the 29, due to the 17-sized grip.
Tallahassee
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I have to get you to try the M&P 2.0 with the 4.6" barrel.
I've ended up with a bunch of Glocks at this point and I'm about to buy my second G19.
- Utterly reliable. I went to a two day class and it rained almost the entire time. After the first day some guys rushed home to clean and lube their guns; some swapped guns entirely; I just put my Glock in the bag wet, took it out the next morning, and shot the second day without a hiccup.
- Huge aftermarket. Ran into this with my Masada - great gun but virtually impossible to find parts for. This isn't an issue with Glock.
- I love that Glocks come in various sizes and calibers but they all feel the same - same grip angle, same ergonomics, same triggers (more or less), etc. It makes life so easy when all my guns function and point the same, from competition to home defense to carry. This even applies across generations. Huge selling point for me, especially as I'm getting into red dots.
- Glocks are very safe, more so than even the popular P365.
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