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I almost called but I remembered I have about 2500 9mm to load so I can wait for it.Maybe try SO?
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I almost called but I remembered I have about 2500 9mm to load so I can wait for it.Maybe try SO?
I wish I got it a long time ago. I couldn't justify the expense when ammo was cheap and I wasn't reloading as much, but now its a no brainer. It's just too easy, push button, charge case, push button, charge case. Life is good.
Oh wow. Very coolIt's not just for stick powder. I'm actually using it with Unique right now and its working great.
Because it is (slower).The cheap lee powder thrower works pretty well and gets it close to the amount. For my 6.5 creed and 8mm mauser
Why is the chargemaster better? It seems slower?
the lee is accurate, not always powder friendlySo fancy. I use a $20 lee perfect powder measure for all of my stick powders. Which is only IMR-4064. But I’m only shooting out to 120 yards. Not any PRS stuff.
hmm I feel like I read some where that when loading pistol cals to be used in rifle length barrels to have a minimum of 750fps?Was at the range today shooting a .357 magnum Henry (20") and a 3" Ruger SP101. I had some .357 magnum loads, but I also had some light .38 specials. Well, they weren't supposed to be that light, but I had loaded up a bunch of them to finish up a cannister of Shooters World Ultimate Pistol. 158 grain Zero JHP over 5.4 grains of Shooter's World Ultimate Pistol. COAL was a short 1.425". According to the manual and to Quickload, that ought to be a reasonably heavy 38 special load, but when I chrono'd it the other day out of a 5.5" Vacquero, it was only coming in at just under 700fps and very consistent. I was expecting 900fps. I'd loaded them months ago and shot probably a couple of hundred before now, but I hadn't chrono'd them, and I hadn't remembered them being that light. Didn't seem to be temperature sensitivity, as warming them up in my pocket didn't seem to make any difference. I did shoot a bunch of them today in the SP101, but just for grins, I loaded one directly into the chamber of the Henry and shot it at the 60 yard berm. Sounded squib-like, and I saw something exit the barrel and fly downrange. So I checked it out. Barrel was clear. Since it had just snowed, there was some chance of finding the bullet if it hadn't made it all the way downrange. This is what I found:
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Apparently enough Ultimate Pistol to send a 158 grain jacketed bullet downrange at 685fps out of a 5.5" barrel is only barely enough to overcome friction in a 20" barrel.
Just a note: be aware that the swag type crimp removers are not friendly to cases with different web thickness. I would suggest sorting at least by manufacture.82deg countersink bit single flute. In a drill or other. I use one in a small bench top lathe.
I gave up on all the swagers. They all caused too many lost primers later.
So fancy. I use a $20 lee perfect powder measure for all of my stick powders. Which is only IMR-4064. But I’m only shooting out to 120 yards. Not any PRS stuff.
Lol. I only use stick for my 30 cal loads. 223/5.56 gets H335 which meters like water.I solve that by not using stick powders.![]()
Is that an empty jacket? It blew the lead out?Apparently enough Ultimate Pistol to send a 158 grain jacketed bullet downrange at 685fps out of a 5.5" barrel is only barely enough to overcome friction in a 20" barrel.
Was at the range today shooting a .357 magnum Henry (20") and a 3" Ruger SP101. I had some .357 magnum loads, but I also had some light .38 specials. Well, they weren't supposed to be that light, but I had loaded up a bunch of them to finish up a cannister of Shooters World Ultimate Pistol. 158 grain Zero JHP over 5.4 grains of Shooter's World Ultimate Pistol. COAL was a short 1.425". According to the manual and to Quickload, that ought to be a reasonably heavy 38 special load, but when I chrono'd it the other day out of a 5.5" Vacquero, it was only coming in at just under 700fps and very consistent. I was expecting 900fps. I'd loaded them months ago and shot probably a couple of hundred before now, but I hadn't chrono'd them, and I hadn't remembered them being that light. Didn't seem to be temperature sensitivity, as warming them up in my pocket didn't seem to make any difference. I did shoot a bunch of them today in the SP101, but just for grins, I loaded one directly into the chamber of the Henry and shot it at the 60 yard berm. Sounded squib-like, and I saw something exit the barrel and fly downrange. So I checked it out. Barrel was clear. Since it had just snowed, there was some chance of finding the bullet if it hadn't made it all the way downrange. This is what I found:
View attachment 442727
Apparently enough Ultimate Pistol to send a 158 grain jacketed bullet downrange at 685fps out of a 5.5" barrel is only barely enough to overcome friction in a 20" barrel.
Looks like it. I had that happen with some of the Zero bullets. Well I had to pull a couple bullets and I was only able to remove the lead core not the jacket. I was like wtf!?Is that an empty jacket? It blew the lead out?
Jacketed soft/hollow point. But for 10 cents each and the crazy accuracy I get with them, I don't mind if the jacket isn't bonded to the lead corePlated?
Sounds reasonable. Other than a relatively hot 125 grain coated lead load that I developed for my Rossi, I just don't shoot 38 specials out of my lever guns. I just sent that one down range to see what it would be like. Now I know. I didn't shoot another one in the rifle.hmm I feel like I read some where that when loading pistol cals to be used in rifle length barrels to have a minimum of 750fps?
Something also jars my memory of using the slowest powder safe for you cal/bullet choice for the long barrels?
Yes. My theory is that the bullet accelerated through the first several inches of barrel until the pressure dropped so far that the friction of the barrel against the copper jacket started slowing it down. The lead core has almost all the momentum, however, and with the jacket braking against the barrel and the lead heated up, it just kept going, leaving the jacket behind. But there was still enough pressure in the barrel to force out the lightweight jacket, so it popped out like popgun cork and flew about 30 yards downrange.Is that an empty jacket? It blew the lead out?
More speculation from me, but I think as long as you have a suitable load that accelerates the bullet all the way out of the barrel, which you would in any hunting scenario, the only implication of not being bonded is separation in the animal, which might not happen if there is expansion, putting the jacket behind an umbrella of lead as it passes through, as you saw in your water jug tests.Looks like it. I had that happen with some of the Zero bullets. Well I had to pull a couple bullets and I was only able to remove the lead core not the jacket. I was like wtf!?![]()
Well I guess I will use 700-X for .45 ACP lol...
Powder continues to drop. hopefully HP38 drops and maybe some Varget.
I finally broke down and ordered a Lee for N110. I'll still use the Hornady for ball powders, but I've resorted to using my RCBS Chargemaster for .357 magnum and .44 magnum loads with N110 because that powder doesn't drop consistently in the Hornady drop. N110 is a stick powder that looks like N320 and N340 but doesn't cut like them. My experience with both N3xx powders is that they meter accurately and consistently in the Hornady drop, not so N110, where I'm easily off by 0.2 grains, sometimes even 0.3 grains. I've tried dropping a little under and then manually trickling the last few sticks, but that's tedious. The Chargemaster is an accurate alternative, but it's slow. I can multitask with it for awhile as I get the seater and crimp dies set up, then switch to seating and crimping every 20 rounds or so, but about 2/3rds of the way through 100 rounds, I'm just sitting there waiting on the Chargemaster. We'll see how the Lee works out.So fancy. I use a $20 lee perfect powder measure for all of my stick powders. Which is only IMR-4064. But I’m only shooting out to 120 yards. Not any PRS stuff.
Nothing wrong with 700X in .45acp., I've used lots of it.
This morning I finished up prepping a 3000rnd batch of 9mm brass for loading. Sized, primed and belled. Awaiting projos tomorrow morning if the mail is on time.
Several years ago I found, I believe, 4.5 grains of 700x under a 230 gr RN grouped amazing out of my 1911 at 15 yards.
If you aint bleeding you aint workin hard enoughNot reloading per say but I ran a new circuit in the basement to add a bunch of receptacles for where my new bench will reside. Also added a couple lights. Just screw in led bulbs at the moment but thinking I’ll upgrade them to strip led. Also moved a wall. Made the laundry room smaller and man cave bigger. I only smashed one finger and cut one. Not bad for a days work.
The referenced 1911 was just an entry level Rock Island Armory 1911 FS-A1 model. Which is basically three quarters of a step up from their bare bones GI spec clone.Hopefully it also works in a Mark 23, Glock 21, & 108 year old 1911.
I really should pick up a modern 1911 for range use.
Those are the best 1911s - dirt cheap and actually reliable for a change.The referenced 1911 was just an entry level Rock Island Armory 1911 FS-A1 model. Which is basically three quarters of a step up from their bare bones GI spec clone.