I think most of the kick is from poor stock geometry.
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gerrycaruso
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Just ordered a bunch of 230 grain fmj for the .45acp. I usually load lead or coated lead but at 12 cents apiece, they are as cheap or cheaper. If they shoot well, I'll shoot them out of the handguns and if not, they'll become Thompson food.
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Fed ex delivered Mr Bullet Feeder today. All set up and dialed in. Let the loading begin.
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What grinds my gears about lee dies. I went to the lgs and looked at the lee pace setter die sets on the shelf and you can see the decap sizing pin is off center just like my slightly used one I have. Causing the neck to be off almost .010
I feel as if I am expecting to much from lee and for some ak x39 loads. But this is the first I’ve seen where I can visibly see the neck is off after sizing. I only put it in the case master
© because It looked off.Anyway. Brought home rcbs x39 set and it’s only off .004569
38ExtraSpecial
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Come borrow my set of RCBS blackout dies and see how they perform. Or bring that fancy measuring device over here.View attachment 727578View attachment 727579
What grinds my gears about lee dies. I went to the lgs and looked at the lee pace setter die sets on the shelf and you can see the decap sizing pin is off center just like my slightly used one I have. Causing the neck to be off almost .010
I feel as if I am expecting to much from lee and for some ak x39 loads. But this is the first I’ve seen where I can visibly see the neck is off after sizing. I only put it in the case master
Anyway. Brought home rcbs x39 set and it’s only off .004569
You gots too much time on your hands man.
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Spangler, I had a feeling you were going to tell me I was getting silly!
But that’s a ok thing. Because I sized a lot of brass then noticed the situation and started feeling a kind of way about what was going on. Then I turned to NES for some comfort and a shoulder rub
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And anytime you want me to bring over the CASE MASTER
© I will. And we can get silly and compare cases youknowhatimeanIts Lee , lee is what it is.View attachment 727578View attachment 727579
What grinds my gears about lee dies. I went to the lgs and looked at the lee pace setter die sets on the shelf and you can see the decap sizing pin is off center just like my slightly used one I have. Causing the neck to be off almost .010
I feel as if I am expecting to much from lee and for some ak x39 loads. But this is the first I’ve seen where I can visibly see the neck is off after sizing. I only put it in the case master
Anyway. Brought home rcbs x39 set and it’s only off .004569
I have not purchased any lee dies in a few years. For the price point especially pace setters they are what they are.
Now I have to ask what “type” buys Lee shit anf then measures with “fancy” equipment. LOL
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I’m that type. Have you ever heard the term “he is so smart, he is stupid” the rcbs CASE MASTER
isn’t fancy. I’d say It’s fair to midland. Some might even consider it skin flint even. LoooI was going to say something, wonder if that a Pittsburgh Dial indicator , lolI’m that type. Have you ever heard the term “he is so smart, he is stupid” the rcbs CASE MASTER
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The RCBS I picked up is a small base set and the brass looks better and just feels better. I picked up the pace setter dies years ago pretty much just for yucks. because I didn’t even have any brass. Just loaded steel tula on hand.
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definitely not pissburg.
It’s the Rock Chuck Bullet Swage
CASE MASTER rite out of Orovile California I KNOW WHAT I GOT SONNY !!
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® yes 
If you own a machine shop, why are using that garbage?
pastera
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I've seen some case measuring devices that belong in a full metrology lab.I’m that type. Have you ever heard the term “he is so smart, he is stupid” the rcbs CASE MASTER
Looked up that one - for what 99.9% of people need that will perform very well.
And for a decent price.
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the machine shop is a grand-uncle, I just have the pencil for bointing. Any more of a concentricity gauge than the CASE MASTER is a waste of money for my needs
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A bargain at $1400
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That looks just as good as the ez wider but with one extra feature
pastera
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Hey can I borrow that to setup some ammo for my new build
Making Skinflint look Gucci
80% budget build Lowest bidder on all parts The only place I 'splurged' is for a 20" stainless heavy barrel upper Rattle can paint 20 minutes with the whet stones to clean up the garbage trigger Pulled the stock apart to remove the adjuster machined a new locking pin and made a plastic plug...
www.northeastshooters.com
I seriously wouldn't want substandard ammo in my $400 "dream" build
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I finished an annealing machine today. A couple additional things to work on and to ensure consistency, but was able to do 200 pieces of brass in about 20 minutes. I used Tempilaq to ensure I was getting the correct temperature (750 F) on the inside of the case neck. It took a few times to figure out how it worked. I ended up just shining a flashlight into the neck so I could clearly see the change to a clear liquid. For 30-06 cases, it takes about 6 seconds to reach 750 in the neck.
My inspiration came from this person here:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0xE-6bSwME
Some things to do to clean it up and make it better, but at least it is working now. Total cost was about $75 for all of the parts and the tempilaq was $35. Some parts were 3d printed
I built it to extend the life of my brass and potentially get more consistency.
My inspiration came from this person here:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0xE-6bSwME
Some things to do to clean it up and make it better, but at least it is working now. Total cost was about $75 for all of the parts and the tempilaq was $35. Some parts were 3d printed
I built it to extend the life of my brass and potentially get more consistency.
This S&B nontoxic 357 mag ammo is ultra clean. Hardly any fouling in the barrel and checkout the brass. I don’t even think I need to tumble the brass
38ExtraSpecial
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Primers look pretty inconsistent. How was velocity?This S&B nontoxic 357 mag ammo is ultra clean. Hardly any fouling in the barrel and checkout the brass. I don’t even think I need to tumble the brass
Super clean for sure. I like that.
Yeah good catch. The velocities seemed consistent but definitely not as warm as my reloads.
38ExtraSpecial
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They will be when you load those clean cases back up next time.
Came across this thread when googling S&B NT primers.
38ExtraSpecial
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Very interesting. On a side note a gentleman on CastBoolits with some fancy equipment measured the pressure difference of a standard flash hole vs an enlarged flash hole. He noted no significant difference in pressures.
So the whole story about larger flash holes and blowing up your gun seems to be hogwash.
