Who makes a semi-auto compact/micro-compact pistol in .22 Mag?

[Retired-LEO]

Only one I can think of right away is the KelTec, and that is NOT a compact.
I know there are some small revolvers, but thinking of something like the Ruger LC II, but in .22 Magnum.

Found these, but none of them are small (pocket size):

.22 Magnum Pistol: What's Available In Semi-Auto?

The .22 Magnum pistol is a rare bird, but we pick four top options in the caliber to satiate even the most finicky rimfire fan.

gundigest.com

In compact .22 mag you will mainly find snubby revolvers.

 

[MAGA99]

nobody has mentioned a Jennings !

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Nobody that’s ever fired one has access to the internet!! One hour per day out of the cell!!

 

[snubnose]

In a semi? Wtf

No in a wheelie, Ftw

 

[Dench]

No in a wheelie, Ftw

.460

 

[KMM696]

Not semi-auto, not a revolver, double action only. But I've fired one several times. They work, they fit in a pocket. They can be difficult to find.

Hi Standard DM-101 Derringer

American Derringer Co also makes/made them - no idea what their quality is.

Think of it as a semi-auto with a two round magazine.

 

[Coyote33]

In compact .22 mag you will mainly find snubby revolvers.

You are correct. That was why I was asking here. Looks like your assertion and my findings here also back this up. Nothing out there.

No in a wheelie, Ftw

.460

Actually, that's more like a 180!!!

Not semi-auto, not a revolver, double action only. But I've fired one several times. They work, they fit in a pocket. They can be difficult to find.

Hi Standard DM-101 Derringer

American Derringer Co also makes/made them - no idea what their quality is.

Think of it as a semi-auto with a two round magazine.

Yeah, that is indeed a feasible option. One or two shots is all that is probably necessary, plus a pocket of loose shells just in case for my particular use.

 

[whatluck]

why would you carry a .22 mag instead of a 9mm? im not trying to be a jerk (although i often am) just curious

 

[Coyote33]

why would you carry a .22 mag instead of a 9mm? im not trying to be a jerk (although i often am) just curious

Smaller size gun.

 

[enbloc]

Here's the title of this thread. Read it out loud to yourself several times:

Who makes a semi-auto compact/micro-compact pistol in .22 Mag?​

 

[Coyote33]

I don't mean any shade to the OP of this thread, and I think .22 magnum in handguns has its uses. But I always recommend that anyone considering a .22 magnum handgun take a look at www.ballisticsbytheinch.com to understand how .22 magnum is affected by barrel length. In short, from smaller pistols, .22 magnum does not come close to the 40 grains at 1800+ fps that made the round so respected in rifles.

From a 3" barrel, no .22 magnum rounds reach the 40 grains at 1250 fps that high velocity .22 long rifle will deliver from a rifle barrel. .22 magnum still outperforms .22 lr from a similar sized pistol, but the performance is not great. You also get a surprising amount of noise and flash from .22 magnum in short barrels, so it seems more powerful than it is.

Again, I am not totally knocking .22 magnum. But from a small pistol, it should not be used for any jobs that are too big for a .22 rifle. And it is not at all similar to .22 magnum from a rifle length barrel, which has a large step more power than .22 lr.

Ballistics by the inch also shows that the round is very sensitive to barrel length. So from a 6" Single Six revolver, it picks up significant velocity, and some rounds do exceed the performance of .22 lr from a rifle. However, this is not helpful in the search for an extremely compact pistol.

Also, to the best of my knowledge, none of the recent .22 magnum rounds that are designed for short barrels actually deliver significantly better ballistics, though some of them may have projectiles that are better designed for their actual velocity.

Thanks for your response.

This would be all I'd ask of it. Even if only a little better, that is fine.

why would you carry a .22 mag instead of a 9mm? im not trying to be a jerk (although i often am) just curious

Smaller size gun.

This all came out of the LCP II .22LR thread. Was wondering if there was a .22 Mag model. There wasn't. The next natural question was "What else is there in small .22 WMR pistols?" Here we are. Seems there aren't any.

 

[whatluck]

Smaller size gun.

so you want something smaller than a p365, smaller than a smith 442? i just dont get the whole 22 mag thing, since cartridge length means you're into 9mm territory anyways.

 

[Coyote33]

so you want something smaller than a p365, smaller than a smith 442?

Yes.

i just dont get the whole 22 mag thing, since cartridge length means you're into 9mm territory anyways.

Only because it might work in an LCP II type gun, which is made for .22LR, but has more fps, even if only a little.

Seems we're either stuck with .22LR, or a bigger gun. It seems all other options have been exhausted, although I haven't looked at .32. I know nothing about those, or if it is even any more powerful than the .22 Mag. At this point, I don't care.

 

[whatluck]

Yes.


Only because it might work in an LCP II type gun, which is made for .22LR, but has more fps, even if only a little.

Seems we're either stuck with .22LR, or a bigger gun. It seems all other options have been exhausted, although I haven't looked at .32. I know nothing about those, or if it is even any more powerful than the .22 Mag. At this point, I don't care.

the lcp really isnt that much smaller than the p365

Sig Sauer P365 vs Ruger LCP II size comparison | Handgun Hero

Compare the dimensions and specs of Sig Sauer P365 and Ruger LCP II

www.handgunhero.com

 

[Beretta92FS]

Not many options out there, because it’s very difficult to make the relatively long and thin .22 mag feed reliably in a very small semi auto. That’s why most small .22 mag handguns are revolvers.

 

[Coyote33]

the lcp really isnt that much smaller than the p365

Sig Sauer P365 vs Ruger LCP II size comparison | Handgun Hero

Compare the dimensions and specs of Sig Sauer P365 and Ruger LCP II

www.handgunhero.com

10.6 oz. vs. 17.8 oz. is almost half the weight.
Also, the size difference, though not dramatic, is enough:



The LCP was the "compromise". Was originally looking for something like the P3AT. It seems that is the one to beat, and the only one to beat it is the same company's P32. Like I said, I don't know much about the .32 caliber at all, so was ending my "research" with .380 and .22 Mag.

 

[Coyote33]

Not many options out there, because it’s very difficult to make the relatively long and thin .22 mag feed reliably in a very small semi auto

Did not know this. I guess that explains why nothing out there. So, we're down to .380, .22, or .32.

 

[snubnose]

Not many options out there, because it’s very difficult to make the relatively long and thin .22 mag feed reliably in a very small semi auto. That’s why most small .22 mag handguns are revolvers.

The problem isn't limited to small semi handguns in wmr try to find a dead reliable: using any ammo: .22 mag semi rifle-isn't going to happen- and I understand this also includes the uber dollar Volquartsen.

If the revolver is out (for whatever inherently flawed reason-presuming civilian use) only one other viable option remains in .22 and it isn't the wmr

An Official Journal Of The NRA | .22 LR For Self Defense: Ammunition Test & Comparison

The world of defensive handguns and ammunition has evolved, making previously diminutive cartridges more capable. But is this also the case for the legendary .22 LR rimfire cartridge? Follow Jeremiah Knupp as he test some of the new .22 LR defensive ammunition now available.

www.americanrifleman.org

 

[MAGA99]

Why??

 

[sig shooter]

What are you using it for?

 

[enbloc]

Was originally looking for something like the P3AT. It seems that is the one to beat,

Plus, there are Kel-tec 9 round magazines available for the P3AT (Mass legal)

Carry with the 6+1, pack the 9-rounder in a pocket...
16 rounds of .380 would keep the Yotes at bay...

 

[snubnose]

Not many options out there, because it’s very difficult to make the relatively long and thin .22 mag feed reliably in a very small semi auto. That’s why most small .22 mag handguns are revolvers.

The problem isn't limited to small semi handguns in wmr try to find a dead reliable: using any ammo: .22 mag semi rifle-isn't going to happen- and I understand this also includes the uber dollar Volquartsen.

If the revolver is out only one other viable option remains in .22 and it isn't the wmr

An Official Journal Of The NRA | .22 LR For Self Defense: Ammunition Test & Comparison

The world of defensive handguns and ammunition has evolved, making previously diminutive cartridges more capable. But is this also the case for the legendary .22 LR rimfire cartridge? Follow Jeremiah Knupp as he test some of the new .22 LR defensive ammunition now available.

www.americanrifleman.org

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp54q1lc43I

 

[snubnose]

Does the Massad still use the .22 lr ?

 

[Coyote33]

Who the f*** wants a carry pistol with a rimmed cartridge?

 

[jasons]

why would you carry a .22 mag instead of a 9mm? im not trying to be a jerk (although i often am) just curious

Easier to keister.

 

[Dench]

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Oh, so fake people?

 

[enbloc]

This looks fun...

 

[tinhorn]

Only one I can think of right away is the KelTec, and that is NOT a compact.
I know there are some small revolvers, but thinking of something like the Ruger LC II, but in .22 Magnum.

Found these, but none of them are small (pocket size):

.22 Magnum Pistol: What's Available In Semi-Auto?

The .22 Magnum pistol is a rare bird, but we pick four top options in the caliber to satiate even the most finicky rimfire fan.

gundigest.com

An Official Journal Of The NRA | The .22 Magnum: Good for Self-Defense?

For some novice shooters, a gun chambered in .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire (WMR), also known as .22 Magnum, might be the best place to start. It’s affordable, readily available and relatively easy to shoot.

www.americanrifleman.org

Saw a Ruger in real life, thought "WTF? May as well carry a Charter .44."

Gonna try to go shoot some NAAs tomorrow in Bridgewater. The missus is going to blast the centers out of those expensive damn targets with her Ruger Bearcat, but is also going to try out the 2" NAA Black Widow I bought her. All LR 'cuz she's all girly and doesn't like the noise of magnums.

Me, I'm gonna blast the hell out of a couple 3" and 4" NAA Earls just 'cuz they're fun. (WRF, which is magnum-lite.) Also gonna run a few magnum rounds through a Black Widow to see if I like it or not. I know your OP is a few months old but if you can meet us in Bridgewater on short notice you're welcome to try out an NAA magnum single action revolver or two. (Under 10 ounces, loaded.)

In case you're not locked into the passing fad of semi-auto handguns.

 

[whacko]

Glock fan boys Never cease to amaze me. OP asks for a 22 mag micro semi auto and you can't even scroll through the first page without seeing

GLOCK 42/43

 

[Coyote33]

Sounds cool, thanks for the offer! Probably not going to make it this time. Really appreciate it though.

 

[SevierDreams]

S&W 351 wheel gun is handy.