Active Shooter Situation in Lewiston Maine

[Toast]

The guy with the dog isn't him. Live news ATM still asking for tips and info.

 

[NHAtHeart]

The guy with the dog isn't him. Live news ATM still asking for tips and info.

That's what I'm seeing, sounds like this was a "see something, say something", once they got the guy detained probably realized he's just some dude walking his dog that looks somewhat similar.

 

[Viper22]

Except that they let him pick up his dog, are acting casually with him, and aren't even pointing their weapons at him.

Right - I agree. Probably not him….just noting the similarity.

 

[In God We Trust]

I can't imagine the 'cleaning' that is going on at whatever facility he was a recent guest of. Talk about CYA.

Here’s the caveat though. If you check yourself into a mental facility, you can leave any time you want unless they deem you a threat to yourself or someone else.

If you start keeping people locked up indefinitely for seeking help, suddenly nobody seeks help anymore.

Think about the “feeling suicidal” mine field. If your gun rights and freedom mean anything to you, you can never seek help if you feel suicidal. You have to deal with it on your own or lose thousands of dollars in guns and ammo and also get a lifetime ban on owning one.

 

[1776]

Is this one of those (obviously) credible threats, that was never a credible threat

Wait until the illegals and/or chicoms start acting up, organized or unorganized.

How many 100's of LE's for how many days, will be available to respond

Something the garden clubs should vote on considering

 

[NHAtHeart]

Here’s the caveat though. If you check yourself into a mental facility, you can leave any time you want unless they deem you a threat to yourself or someone else.

If you start keeping people locked up indefinitely for seeking help, suddenly nobody seeks help anymore.

Think about the “feeling suicidal” mine field. If your gun rights and freedom mean anything to you, you can never seek help if you feel suicidal. You have to deal with it on your own or lose thousands of dollars in guns and ammo and also get a lifetime ban on owning one.

I've known people in the past that did this math and chose to go it alone, luckily they made it through the hard times and are in great shape now. This is definitely a concern and needs to be part of a comprehensive mental health overhaul but... people would rather scream about THE MILITARY STYLE SNIPER RIFLE ASSAULT GUN!!!

 

[KBCraig]

I’ve never heard any kind of round count.

911 calls from the two locations were 12 minutes apart. It’s 4 miles; maps say it’s an 11-12 minute drive.

The total number of victims (assuming all injuries were GSW) would be less than one magazine per location.

 

[SIGNES]

Here’s the caveat though. If you check yourself into a mental facility, you can leave any time you want unless they deem you a threat to yourself or someone else.

If you start keeping people locked up indefinitely for seeking help, suddenly nobody seeks help anymore.

Think about the “feeling suicidal” mine field. If your gun rights and freedom mean anything to you, you can never seek help if you feel suicidal. You have to deal with it on your own or lose thousands of dollars in guns and ammo and also get a lifetime ban on owning one.

Every word of this is correct.

EDIT: And because it is, think about how hard it is to define a 'mental health' solution that actually does the people who need it most good. It's not just your gun rights you lose with an involuntary commitment.

 

[NHAtHeart]

I’ve never heard any kind of round count.

911 calls from the two locations were 12 minutes apart. It’s 4 miles; maps say it’s an 11-12 minute drive.

The total number of victims (assuming all injuries were GSW) would be less than one magazine per location.

Supposedly it was an AR-10, .308, so you're talking 20rnd mags.

 

[jkelly1229]

Clothing is a match. Comparing the video to the bowling alley photo.

Can’t tell much more from that video…

I mean... i would assume the dude who evaded them for a few days would've had the wherewithal to pack a change of clothes

 

[MAGA99]

Gun Free Zone - no big surprise. I expect this guy was coming in hot either way, but maybe someone could have shot back if armed.

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I always ignore gay signs like that. f*** them. Any place displaying said communist drivel should be shamed into bankruptcy.

 

[G4Y4HK]

Yeah, its easy to do it on a sqare range but in real life, quite different.

But the bone stock SUB2000 Gen 2 is made of Legos and is stupid light. Folded up and on a shoulder one point bungee sling, it conceals very nicely underneath a bomber jacket.

 

[Dench]

And yet the loons take no heat...

It depends. A lot of our resident loons simply go ignored as they've been doing it for years.

The old "dont feed the trolls" policy should be used generously.

 

[Andy in NH]

We have a tendency to regard criminals like this as having super-operator type skills, has made an escape and is hundreds of miles away, plotting his next atrocity.
We're usually wrong.
I guess those guys are out there, but 9 times out of 10, the simplest explanation is correct; he's killed himself

I can't believe we haven't heard an interview with his Reserve unit commander. Or maybe we wouldn't because he/she is not permitted by the DOD.

I was at a shooting class not too long ago and the instructor's opinion was that the the typical bad guy/criminal has about the same shooting skill as we practitioners do with our non dominant hand only.

Very hard to quantify that, but it was an interesting concept to think about.

 

[MAGA99]

Things I never believe:

@Reptile

And

There are hot teens in my area who want me now.

Oh they want you right now!! They want you to buy them a few 30packs of beer and then leave them alone!

 

[Andy in NH]

Sad but true.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8MO7fkZc5o

 

[MAGA99]

And yet the loons take no heat...

There is a really nice ignore feature here. It works wonders.

Welcome to adult life.

 

[In God We Trust]

I mean... i would assume the dude who evaded them for a few days would've had the wherewithal to pack a change of clothes

I suspect he is well on his way to decomposing deep in the woods somewhere by now. Probably blew his wig off later that night.

Some hunter will find what’s left of him in a couple weeks

 

[LakeTrout]

perhaps, a chance for some folks to reflect a bit on some of the things they say on these boards about transgendered and others that would make them look a lot like that description of Card

You act like you’ve got the moral high ground because you are a radio repeater for whatever propaganda is being pushed down from the communist left. Most people here think rationally about these topics and those that do instead of blindly following, you prejudge, just like the political left does as a dividing tactic. For example, the truth is that there is no such thing as transgendered when it comes to sex. And sex is the most important gender. You can create an infinite amount of “genders” for anything you want in life if you wish to divide people for political purposes. But biological sex is the category that actually matters the most and for practical purposes is the most important to place people into categories over. And for that, you cannot be “transgender”. You can cut your nuts off and wear your skirt and the only thing you’ve transitioned into is a dude that doesn’t have to Worry about his nuts popping out of his skirt.

If facts bother you, and you find feelings more important, then that is fine. But you will not find much support for that type of thinking in the company of people who tend to be rational and logical. So stop pretending you have this moral high ground about you. You don’t. You’re willfully delusional.

 

[not new guy]

I was at a shooting class not too long ago and the instructor's opinion was that the the typical bad guy/criminal has about the same shooting skill as we practitioners do with our non dominant hand only.

Until they don't. It seems like it makes more sense to assume that they do have some level of skill given the potential consequences of getting the other guess wrong.

 

[MAGA99]

Bowling alley he was wearing a brown hooded sweatshirt, in the video he's wearing a beige t-shirt... haircut looks similar, build looks similar. Could be him, might not but at this point it's just a dude... the cops seem VERY relaxed if that was actually him.

Average white guy, roughly same size and color as bad man, wearing similar clothing but not the same….

How many colors do you have in your wardrobe?? I wear almost the same colors all the time, just like most white guys I know….construction clothing 24/7/365. We work a lot.

I wear camo when hunting and medium weather snowmobiling. Whatever is comfy. Yeah, I’m the guy wearing camo on the fancy sled that just zipped past you!!

 

[LT5]

I’m sure everybody here understands gallows humor,

That kills me.

 

[jkelly1229]

Average white guy, roughly same size and color as bad man, wearing similar clothing but not the same….

How many colors do you have in your wardrobe?? I wear almost the same colors all the time, just like most white guys I know….construction clothing 24/7/365. We work a lot.

I wear camo when hunting and medium weather snowmobiling. Whatever is comfy. Yeah, I’m the guy wearing camo on the fancy sled that just zipped past you!!

I wear a lot of grey and black lol you are correct

 

[Admin]

Until they don't. It seems like it makes more sense to assume that they do have some level of skill given the potential consequences of getting the other guess wrong.

"There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent."

 

[G4Y4HK]

Until they don't. It seems like it makes more sense to assume that they do have some level of skill given the potential consequences of getting the other guess wrong.

Yeah the whole self reassurance that bad guys are a terribly trained shot is dangerous. Reminds me of when the Rangers were about to go into Mogadishu - "don't worry, from what I've heard.. somalis can't shoot for SHIT."

Then you got mass shooters like Cho Seung Hui who spent months at the range perfecting his shooting skills before executing all those college kids.

 

[PatMcD]

I was at a shooting class not too long ago and the instructor's opinion was that the the typical bad guy/criminal has about the same shooting skill as we practitioners do with our non dominant hand only.

Very hard to quantify that, but it was an interesting concept to think about.

And your typical gun owner ("we practitioners") can't hit a bull in the ass with a sack of rice.

Negative times Negative makes Positive.
So,... your typical bad guy/criminal may be SO bad, he might accidentally end up being really good

 

[SIGNES]

It depends. A lot of our resident loons simply go ignored as they've been doing it for years.

The old "dont feed the trolls" policy should be used generously.

There's a pattern to where I bother. Some of the looniest are among the 'cool kids' of the forum.

 

[MAGA99]

Until they don't. It seems like it makes more sense to assume that they do have some level of skill given the potential consequences of getting the other guess wrong.

I’m all honesty, it doesn’t take much skill to shoot unarmed ‘fish in a barrel.’

 

[Admin]

There's a pattern to where I bother. Some of the looniest are among the 'cool kids' of the forum.

I knew you'd step on your own dick. My suspicions were correct. Go white knight DU

 

[MAGA99]

I wear a lot of grey and black lol you are correct

You must be one of those computer guys!! I wear brown/khaki pants (I have probably 15 commies of the same pants in different stages of wear) and either dark green, navy blue, or high vis shirts, button downs, and hoodies. If I want to look fancy, I put on a plaid shirt….in basically the same color pallet. Works for me!