Bodyguard 2.0

This is just the sort of gun a Black street thug / Pimp would carry.

I LIKE IT!!!

Just my style...

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I've put a few hundred rounds through mine, with different brands of ammo, and the only defensive ammunition that I had problems with were the Black Hills HoneyBadger 380. I ran a box (20) through, and had Failure To Feed pretty much every other shot. It could be a feed ramp issue, but not sure. Need to really check it out.
 
Reptile said:
I can't believe I'm considering this.

I am a Glock Aficionado.

However, a gun is only good if you always carry it.

The Bodyguard 2.0 is much smaller than a G43 and would go nice in a pocket with an Alabama Holster.

I blame @chris_1001 for my transgressions.
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I've been a Glock and 1911 bigot for decades.

However, I'm also a wuss when it comes to bulk and weight while carrying.

The 42 is too big for a pocket gun. I bought one when it came out expecting it to replace my LCP. Nope. Too big.
I eventually found the Kahr P380. It's as small as an LCP but shoots much better.
I've now added a Shield 2.0 as my "big little gun".

In the 9mm realm, I owned a 26 and shot IDPA with it for 3 years before adding a 34.
I bought it to carry, but never did. It was too big and heavy.

Then the 43 came out and I bought one of those. The original triggers were TERRIBLE, with enormous stacking just before the break. It was impossible to shoot it fast with any level of accuracy. I did to the 43 something I'd never done to a Glock before. I put in an aftermarket connector.

But it still only held 6 rounds. So when the P365 came out and I got to try one I was smitten.
It held 10 rounds in a package smaller than a 43 and had a nice smooth rolling break that lended itself to fast accurate shooting.
Recoil was also much less than the 43. I just simply shot it much better than the 43.

Don't jump to the idea that I'm an Sig fan boy. The 365 and 210 are the only sigs I like.
As far as Smiths, the M&P line is great. But I've never shot them as well as I've shot Glock. I've owned a few and sold them.

So here we are 10 years after the release of the 42 and I don't own a single Glock that I carry.
I still shoot my 34 a lot.

But this Glock bigot's carry guns are now a Kahr, Smith, and Sig.

chindogg said:
The rear sight is not good. The dovetail is compatible with the Bodyguard 1.0 and the Ruger LCP Max rear sights.. The 1.0 rear sight is a vast improvement for cheap money. I'll probably get a set of Truglos when they are released in a year or so.
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The rear sight isn't bad. It's just wide. I like a wide black sight. So it works for me.

For decades, I've been flipping Glock sights around and filing them wider because I'm cheap. (and they work great this way)
The Bodyguard saves me the trouble.
 
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On the BG 2.0 recoil spring, I find that if you give it a twist it as you press it in place it will align and go in without much trouble.
 
gerrycaruso said:
Shot the bodyguard 2.0 against the LCP max yesterday. No contest. The bodyguard was slightly more accurate, has a better grip and a lighter trigger. Anyone want to buy an almost new LCP max?
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Ha Ha. I'll be selling my Max also. It served its purpose but now is obsolete compared to the Bodyguard.

The bodyguard is no taller but manages a much longer grip.
 
More BG2.0 testing to report...
I am up around 300 rounds on FMJ range ammo without any issues.
Just ran 50 rounds of Hornity FTX Critical Defense without any issues using that, will likely use that for carry.

I earlier had FTF issues with Fiocchi hollow point, as have others.
Lehigh Defense XD (Phillips style tip) and similar bullets have also been reported by others as problematic for this gun.

The sights as set by S&W measured very close to being centered (within 0.002"), but the gun shot low and left.
I adjusted the sights by about [EDIT/CORRECTION] 0.024" and it now shoots straight but a bit low.
Had an instructor test it out at the range after adjustment and it was right on for him so the low part is evidently on me.

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Also, the 10 round mags have loosened up some from the numerous reloads that I can now get a fully loaded mag in the gun with the slide closed, although it can take a pretty good wack to do it.
 
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peter_nh said:
More BG2.0 testing to report...
I am up around 300 rounds on FMJ range ammo without any issues.
Just ran 50 rounds of Hornity FTX Critical Defense without any issues using that, will likely use that for carry.

I earlier had FTF issues with Fiocchi hollow point, as have others.
Lehigh Defense XD (Phillips style tip) and similar bullets have also been reported by others as problematic for this gun.

The sights as set by S&W measured very close to being centered (within 0.002"), but the gun shot low and left.
I adjusted the sights by about 0.015" and it now shoots straight but a bit low.
Had an instructor test it out at the range after adjustment and it was right on for him so the low part is evidently on me.
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Has anyone looked into whether the 'shoots left' is a factory sight setting issue, or a left or right handed shooter issue yet?

Guess I'll have to buy one and see if it shoots right in my sinister hands.
 
KMM696 said:
Has anyone looked into whether the 'shoots left' is a factory sight setting issue, or a left or right handed shooter issue yet?

Guess I'll have to buy one and see if it shoots right in my sinister hands.
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Mine shoots a little left, and you can see that the rear sight is slightly off-center to the left. And I've heard this from other people as well.


Frank
 
KMM696 said:
Has anyone looked into whether the 'shoots left' is a factory sight setting issue, or a left or right handed shooter issue yet?

Guess I'll have to buy one and see if it shoots right in my sinister hands.
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Mine shoots left and I'm left handed. I've also got a lot of bulls eye experience and when shooting slowly am pretty good at pulling straight back. That sometimes goes downhill if I'm shooting fast. But at slow speeds, I'm good enough to blame off center hits on the gun.
 
peter_nh said:
More BG2.0 testing to report...
I am up around 300 rounds on FMJ range ammo without any issues.
Just ran 50 rounds of Hornity FTX Critical Defense without any issues using that, will likely use that for carry.

I earlier had FTF issues with Fiocchi hollow point, as have others.
Lehigh Defense XD (Phillips style tip) and similar bullets have also been reported by others as problematic for this gun.

The sights as set by S&W measured very close to being centered (within 0.002"), but the gun shot low and left.
I adjusted the sights by about 0.015" and it now shoots straight but a bit low.
Had an instructor test it out at the range after adjustment and it was right on for him so the low part is evidently on me.
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That's awesome. I was up in NH last weekend and ran another 300 reloads through it. I was very rusty and needed a tune up.
It ran great. I had one failure to extract with the reload. The loads are light and won't even cycle in my Kahr P380, so I'll chalk it up to the ammo.

I have the Flocchi Extrema loaded with Hornady XTP bullets and it's been reliable so far. I've only got 3 mags of it through the gun.
I did chrono my reloads to see how underpowered they were. Both bullets are 90 gr.

The reloads were 734 FPS
The Fiocchi were 824 FPS

It doesn't sound like much but that difference in MV gives the Fiocchis 26% more muzzle energy than my reloads.
 
peter_nh said:
I adjusted the sights by about 0.015" and it now shoots straight but a bit low.
Had an instructor test it out at the range after adjustment and it was right on for him so the low part is evidently on me.
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You are probably anticipating recoil and pushing the firearm prior to it firing. It's a common problem among people who started shooting centerfire guns before they were really ready. It's why I like to have my students get at least 500 rounds through a .22 before we move onto centerfire. It's easier to not develop the bad habit than it is to fix it.

I'd suggest you do ball and dummy drills with the gun. You will find that the gun pretty much instantly stops shooting low.
You will need someone to help you with this. you won't know if the gun is loaded or not and if it will go click or bang.
 
Sf Becket said:
I had an AMT backup 380…..worst pistol I ever owned. It’s about double the weight of the bodyguard and half the capacity…. I couldn’t get a mag though it without a misfire
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I shot one roughly 5 years ago. A friend pulled it from the back of his safe to shoot after it had been sitting for over a decade.
Shooting it made it abundantly clear that a lot of progress has been made since this gun came out .

1) its a straight blowback design and recoil is surprisingly unpleasant.
2) Its a straight blowback design and the recoil spring is pretty stiff. There is no way a new shooter or someone with compromised hand strength could run this gun reliably.
3) its a single action gun with a TINY safety located where the mag release would normally be. Despite being single action the trigger is terrible.
4) its heavy
5) its ugly.
6) its unreliable. I don't think I could get through more than a mag or two without a failure to feed.
 
Sf Becket said:
I had an AMT backup 380…..worst pistol I ever owned. It’s about double the weight of the bodyguard and half the capacity…. I couldn’t get a mag though it without a misfire
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This one has been fine , ran JHP no problem

I probably got lucky, the sights are atrocious but it’s not really a gun you aim.

But yea the capacity is my biggest gripe and why the BG 2.0 is attractive
 
MickeyD’s said:
This one has been fine , ran JHP no problem

I probably got lucky, the sights are atrocious but it’s not really a gun you aim.

But yea the capacity is my biggest gripe and why the BG 2.0 is attractive
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If yours runs reliably and you shoot it decently inside 15 ft, then there isn't any need to replace it. Though the Bodyguard is a great shooting gun and actually makes practicing with it fun. So I shoot it more and am therefore better with it.
 
Back from a range trip with mine, the sights on mine were off, the front off by a small amount to the right and the rear off, again small amount but to the left. I took my sight pusher with me and after shooting some test rounds on a paper target, I adjusted both the front and rear sights. Now I can shoot dead center left and right. I don’t see any elevation adjustment, and it shoots a little low, just a little hold over and it’s fine. No failures, the only issue I see is that I cannot load a 10 round mags with the slide closed, I have to lock the slide back to get the mags to seat.

Other than that I’m pleased with mine, trigger is nice and light, I have a couple of holsters on order. Mainly want it for pocket carry.
 
HarryPottar said:
Back from a range trip with mine, the sights on mine were off, the front off by a small amount to the right and the rear off, again small amount but to the left. I took my sight pusher with me and after shooting some test rounds on a paper target, I adjusted both the front and rear sights. Now I can shoot dead center left and right. I don’t see any elevation adjustment, and it shoots a little low, just a little hold over and it’s fine. No failures, the only issue I see is that I cannot load a 10 round mags with the slide closed, I have to lock the slide back to get the mags to seat.

Other than that I’m pleased with mine, trigger is nice and light, I have a couple of holsters on order. Mainly want it for pocket carry.
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Same here with regard to trying to insert a full 10 round mag. Behaves more like a 9+1.


Frank
 
Reptile said:
This is just the sort of gun a Black street thug / Pimp would carry.

I LIKE IT!!!

Just my style...

www.hogueinc.com

HandALL® Beavertail Grip Sleeve - Purple

SPECS+ Precision fit for Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9mm & .40 S&W+ Material: Rubber+ Texture: Cobblestone™+ Color: PurpleFEATURES+ Gentle palm swells fit comfortably in hand+ Top finger groove naturally positions fingers for optimal grip+ T
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No side-mount for sights.

No self-respecting street thug would carry that junk.
 
pinefd said:
Same here with regard to trying to insert a full 10 round mag. Behaves more like a 9+1.


Frank
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Yup, mine with ten rounds will go in with the slide closed but really has to be forced to the point where I don't like doing it.
For some reason one mag is worse than the other and I can't figure out exactly why.
Not much can be done as to modifying the follower or base, just not a lot of extra material.

When I swapped parts around the problem followed the spring, though they both appear to be identical.

So I decided to just cut a coil off the bottom of the more problematic spring, which did make
a noticeable improvement but still needs a pretty good squeeze with ten rounds.
The mag still functions normally, last round feeds fine.
 
Picked one up today and cycled a bunch of snap caps.

The size if perfect.

If you are coming from a Glock 42 - this S&W feels like junk.
It has sharp edges and does not feel nice to load or pull the trigger.
The machining and perfection of a Glock is nowhere to be found.
Looking at all the parts after a takedown it really has nothing on a Glock.
Compared to any Glock it's trash.

HOWEVER: It is really small and really comfortable to hold. Much smaller than a 42 in 380.
It was only $400 and since it's so small I can see myself always carrying this little gun.

It wont be as easy to use but I'll HAVE IT WITH ME.

A larger Glock can't be carried all the time.

I feel like so far this is a worthwhile and valuable purchase.

It's just that if you are a Glock owner - you'll have to get used to it.

One thing that I DO like VERY much is that the frame is made in Massachusetts and I actually took a tour of S&W 4 times some 15 years ago.

Everything is a trade off.

I will learn to love my new micro gun as I will always have it with me which could be more important than not carrying a better gun.
 


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