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I've been bitten and threatened so often it wouldn't bother me a bit to shoot a threatening dog. But I want to buy Duke a bag of bacon-flavored treats.
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Wasp/hornet spray doesn’t work, it’s a myth. It certainly won’t stop someone immediately and if anything it’ll have more effect hours after it’s sprayed. Anyone who uses wasp/hornet spray instead of pepper spray is an f’n moron. And yes, you could be facing federal charges on top of everything else for using the product in a manner not intended.It will , but believe or not , you open yourself up for federal charges.
There was a thread here a while back on the topic of using it if mace wasn't legal /available.
Misuse of a pesticide will put you in fed f*ck territory.
It's not hard to follow at all, it's pretty clear to me the way I read it.Section 156. Any person may kill a dog which suddenly assaults him while he is peaceably standing, walking or riding outside the enclosure of its owner or keeper; and any person may kill a dog found out of the enclosure of its owner or keeper and not under his immediate care in the act of worrying, wounding or killing persons, live stock or fowls, and if any person shall kill or attempt to kill a dog so found, and in the act of worrying, wounding or killing persons, live stock or fowls, he shall not be held liable for cruelty to the dog unless it shall be shown that he intended to be cruel to the dog, or that he acted with a wanton and reckless disregard for the suffering of the dog. A person killing or wounding a dog under the conditions set out in this section shall promptly report to the owner, animal control officer or police officer such killing or wounding. Prompt killing of a wounded dog, or a prompt report to the owner or to a dog officer of the wounding of the dog, shall be considered evidence of sufficient regard for the suffering of the dog.
Long winded and hard to follow like many MA laws. How is this actually enforced? Do people get LTCs pulled for shooting an attacking dog?
It's funny, but as an LTC holder and a generally big/strong guy (5'10", 220) in MA, I've never really concerned myself with the "less-than-lethal" stuff available to us. My wife normally carries mace, but didn't have it on her during our dog walk encounter.
Wasp/hornet spray doesn’t work, it’s a myth. It certainly won’t stop someone immediately and if anything it’ll have more effect hours after it’s sprayed. Anyone who uses wasp/hornet spray instead of pepper spray is an f’n moron. And yes, you could be facing federal charges on top of everything else for using the product in a manner not intended.
It's not hard to follow at all, it's pretty clear to me the way I read it.
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Man Shoots Pit Bull Downtown After Poodle Bit - WHAV
No charges are expected from Haverhill Police after the owner of a miniature poodle Sunday evening shot and wounded a pit bull attacking his pet when the pit bull’s owner could not control his dog. The incident occurred at 6:30 p.m., Sunday, in a park at the rear of 52 Washington St., according...whav.net
I had some ass#@$$ that used to walk his two dogs unleashed on a trail I frequented with my dog. They attacked my dog on two occasions. My dog was on leash. On occassion number two I kicked the shit out of one of the dogs, pulled my knife and told the guy next time I kill his dogs. I wasn't kidding. I never saw him again. This guy was a known offender because I ran into another person there that had the same problem.My wife and I were walking our dog last night when we were attacked by another dog. We usually walk to one of two conservation trails in the area, both within a mile of our house. On this particular evening, we were walking back from the trail on a public road (no sidewalks). We hear barking and my wife tells me to get ready as she sees a large German Shepard bearing down on us. The Shepard is obviously not under the verbal or physical control of it's owner and comes running out into the road where we are walking and immediately attacks our dog, a fixed female Pit Bull mix.
I had our dog on a leash and tried to restrain her as she is very aggressive at other aggressive dogs and was prepared to fight. Unfortunately this put my dog at a severe disadvantage as it limited her mobility. My wife tried to get between them to keep the Shepard at bay as did I, trying to keep our dog behind me. Of course the Shepard, being likely 100lb of muscle and teeth, had no problem getting close and managed to get a few bites in on our dog before she could respond. I shouted, lunged, and kicked at the other dog, which seemed to keep the fight from getting too bad.
While this is happening, one of the owners, the wife comes running out and is trying to restrain her dog, but isn't really successful. Then the husband shows up, sees me kicking at his dog and immediately shouts at me and prepares to throw down (hand cocked to throw a haymaker), which meant I now I had to take my eyes and attention off the German Shepard and get into a defensive stance in case this guy engages me. My wife is shouting at them to get control of their dog while he continues to circle to re-engage us.
Overall, a complete clusterfck. They finally managed to get control of their dog. We continued on to finish our walk. The wife was very apologetic and during the whole thing tried her best to get control of the dog. The husband was obviously not thinking straight, but apologized after. He was triggered by my kicking his dog, and at one point yelled at us because we had a pit bull... had zero understanding of what happened and that his dog initiated the attack in a public space while loose. Not to mention ignoring the fact that his male German Shepard was much bigger/heavier than our dog and obviously the aggressor.
We checked our dog at home. She was fine except for a 3 small puncture wounds, one on the face, and one on each rear leg. They bled for a bit, but eventually stopped. It didn't look like they needed stitches.
No one was hurt beside some superficial wounds on our dog (she never made a sound and managed to defend herself as she's a tough dog). No one died or went to jail, and I think we did about the best we could in that situation. Afterwards, I told my wife that I probably should have handed the leash off to her in order to be able to more successfully engage the German Shepard and later, the owner when he became aggressive (didn't expect that). I wasn't carrying concealed at the time, but had I been, I told her I would have shot the dog as soon as it engaged us. That dog could have easily killed her, killed our dog and was very much a threat to me. That would have opened a crap show of legal issues (this is MA so...). I would have been certainly within rights on a public road to defend my family against an aggressive and dangerous threat. There is no running away from a dog, so I don't think duty to retreat would be an issue.
Besides this dog, there are some other very aggressive German Shepherds in the area. From this point forward, I'm carrying when I'm walking. I was in gym shorts and a tshirt and didn't feel like carrying as we've never had an issue before. Obvious mistake on my part and we got lucky. Just goes to show how fast things can turn to crap when you least expect it.
WWYD?
As an aside, WTF is with crappy dog owners who don't leash their dog and have zero control over them? I can't count how many times I see dogs off leash on our walks, in our neighborhood running loose, etc. All of this would have been avoided had these owners kept their dog within a fence or on a leash/run.
Do you have any idea what they’ll do to you if you pull the tag off the mattress?Federal charges lol that’s a bit much.. Because it says that on the can? Do people go to federal prison when they spray gasoline on people trying to mug them while they’re pumping gas?
I agree otherwise I think it’s dumb idea….
Do you have any idea what they’ll do to you if you pull the tag off the mattress?![]()
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Man Shoots Pit Bull Downtown After Poodle Bit - WHAV
No charges are expected from Haverhill Police after the owner of a miniature poodle Sunday evening shot and wounded a pit bull attacking his pet when the pit bull’s owner could not control his dog. The incident occurred at 6:30 p.m., Sunday, in a park at the rear of 52 Washington St., according...whav.net
The mini poodle’s owner was properly licensed for the gun and no charges were brought, Pistone said. However, that owner was cited for failure to license the mini poodle.
This is what my dad did to a charging dog, fortunate enough to see him coming and my dad 6’2” had the leg and boot on point and got in a toe to neck shot.As a delivery driver I was attacked by several dogs that got aggressive. I would just usually kick the shit out of them. Short of stabbing or shooting the dog a good soccer kick to the lower jaw wood make them turn. I also didn't hesitate. If it was within three feet and aggressive I just booted it hard in the head. I wasn't going to wait for the thing to latch onto my arm.
I know that people love dogs and don't want to hurt them don't want to see them get hurt but if you own an aggressive dog you can't control and it's off leash something's going to happen at some point. And just like people the dog doesn't have a right to attack anybody. So in the future if that happens and you're not carrying a weapon, and I mean really who wants to shoot or stab somebody's dog if they don't have to, just kick the thing in the f***ing head as hard as you can. Ribs are good too. The dog will be fine and if it's not, oh well it shouldn't have attacked anybody.
The last HD I went into a few years ago someone’s large dog got over-excited and started having explosive diarrhea while pacing around the check out area. They probably changed policy after that guy LOL.Have seen them at Target, Kohls & BJs. Last week had an incident at the BigY grocery store (wasn't a service dog). Lowes hase signage that says they're pet friendly, the last HD I want into said no pets other than service animals.
My office manager saw a dog peeing in a planter pot at HD (one w/ a plant in it), family made pretend they didn't see it.The last HD I went into a few years ago someone’s large dog got over-excited and started having explosive diarrhea while pacing around the check out area. They probably changed policy after that guy LOL.
I like dogs but I am getting real tired of their esteemed status in society today. At the end of the day a dog is a dog, not a "grand-dog" or a "fur baby". Is anybody else fed up with seeing dogs at restaurants, inside stores, etc.? Every other time I am hiking in the woods with my kids I need to scoop up my two year old and hold my four year old to the side of the trail when a stupid dog comes running up to us. Of course the owner always shouts "It's ok he's friendly!" Usually it's fine but one of these times he isn't going to be friendly.
It's not usually about the dog it's the fact that the owner has an entitlement mentality..... if you start looking around this has creeped into virtually everything. These people do exactly the same things with their snotgobblers if they have them. I'm not talking like McDonald's or a grocery store where people have to bring children because they don't have a choice but there are people who dragged their terrorist window licker kids everywhere and then just let them go full retard.... dogs have become the 2nd tier "ferrari substitute" for entitlement mentality types. If you're having a really bad day you'll have a kid that's running around screaming their head off and a yippee dog both not under control of the owner.....I like dogs but I am getting real tired of their esteemed status in society today. At the end of the day a dog is a dog, not a "grand-dog" or a "fur baby". Is anybody else fed up with seeing dogs at restaurants, inside stores, etc.? Every other time I am hiking in the woods with my kids I need to scoop up my two year old and hold my four year old to the side of the trail when a stupid dog comes running up to us. Of course the owner always shouts "It's ok he's friendly!" Usually it's fine but one of these times he isn't going to be friendly.
I would opt for the pepper spray , those cans of wasp spray are big , cumbersome and the damn spray tip falls off at the drop of a hat.Honestly, when it comes to defending my life or the life of a loved one, I would take whatever action is necessary for defense and worry about the consequences later. If the necessary action involves deadly force, well, it is what it is. Hand me my citation for criminal court and see you there. At least I'll be alive to show up and answer the bullshit charges!
Federal charges lol that’s a bit much.. Because it says that on the can? Do people go to federal prison when they spray gasoline on people trying to mug them while they’re pumping gas?
I agree otherwise I think it’s dumb idea….
ThisI'm glad it turned out fairly well.
I would contact the local animal control officer
And it even provides for an anchoring shot.I'll be damned. It's a Massachusetts law: General Laws Part I Title XX Chapter 140 Section 156. Thanks for that.