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I believe that more ammo equals more stress
I believe that it is stressful enough to get into a real gun fight, and I believe that more ammo equals more stress, if we even realize and can find those extra mags while in the fight. Many people will say that training for those things will make you calm and ready, sorry to say but it is not true. If we think about it, we can’t most of the time shoot like we shoot in a range during a normal competition, so imagine about a real gun fight.
Talking about Murphy, if the 1st mag fails, who can tell me that the second one (if I have time enough to reach it and load the gun) will not fail?
No offense intended, but I certainly hope the person you shoot knows how much you've been practicing your first round placement at the range when it doesn't phase them. Fatal wounds often don't stop people, including head shots.
You need to bring enough gun and ammo to end the fight. Sometimes showing a gun is enough to end a confrontation, sometimes 17 fatal wounds center of mass aren't enough.
You won't know how many rounds are enough until the fight is over. You will know how many rounds aren't enough when you run out in the middle of a gunfight, or when you have a magazine failure/malfunction that renders your M&P (with a magazine disconnect "safety," I might add) useless in your hands.
I don't like cheap mages, either - their spells always wear off at just the wrong times...Never use cheap mags either. I've been using Wilson's in my 1911's and havent had any issues.
Wow. I'm surprised at some of the answers in here
I carry a G26 with an extra 10rnd mag or a G19 with an extra 15rnd mag.
The extra mag is carried in this:
A Joab Horizontal Mag Pouch
http://www.onesourcetactical.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1509
It's out of the way, doesn't stick into my side, and conceals amazingly well. And I usually don't tuck in my shirt (only did for the photos) so a T-shirt is more than enough to conceal the extra mag.
Wow. I'm surprised at some of the answers in here
I carry a G26 with an extra 10rnd mag or a G19 with an extra 15rnd mag.
The extra mag is carried in this:
A Joab Horizontal Mag Pouch
http://www.onesourcetactical.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1509
It's out of the way, doesn't stick into my side, and conceals amazingly well. And I usually don't tuck in my shirt (only did for the photos) so a T-shirt is more than enough to conceal the extra mag.
David, what do you use to carry all that - do you have separate holsters for each, or a multipurpose holster? can you post a pic?I used to carry two spare mags. When I realized how important having a flashlight is, I exchanged one spare mag for a light. I now carry 1 spare mag, 1 light, and pepper spray in addition to my primary and back up guns.
That mag carrier is the shiznit!Wow. I'm surprised at some of the answers in here
I carry a G26 with an extra 10rnd mag or a G19 with an extra 15rnd mag.
The extra mag is carried in this:
A Joab Horizontal Mag Pouch
http://www.onesourcetactical.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1509
It's out of the way, doesn't stick into my side, and conceals amazingly well. And I usually don't tuck in my shirt (only did for the photos) so a T-shirt is more than enough to conceal the extra mag.
+3 for posting that, i have been trying to find it
That mag carrier is the shiznit!
Definitely looks more comfortable the the traditional vertical orientation, plus to the world it looks like some phone/blackberry on your belt if it prints.
I will post a pic when I can nab someone to take one for me.
I carry pepper spray in a horizontal carrier on my left side, forward of the hip (http://armory.jsholsters.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=2110)
Everything is quite comfortable
I guess you missed the memo that the most common cause of semi auto handgun malfunctions is bad magazines.If I was ccw'ing it be a loaded firearm. period. the odds of the aliens landing, or being in a bank while its robbed , Id let it get robbed, its insured FDIC. jmo
I’m with Cekin, Timber and Greg.
I believe that it is stressful enough to get into a real gun fight, and I believe that more ammo equals more stress, if we even realize and can find those extra mags while in the fight. Many people will say that training for those things will make you calm and ready, sorry to say but it is not true. If we think about it, we can’t most of the time shoot like we shoot in a range during a normal competition, so imagine about a real gun fight.
Talking about Murphy, if the 1st mag fails, who can tell me that the second one (if I have time enough to reach it and load the gun) will not fail?
What? So having a spare mag that's hard to get to is MORE stressful than having NO AMMO LEFT? I understand the argument about carrying spare ammo not being worth it because of the effort involved when not in a fight, but not carrying spare ammo because it'll make the fight harder makes no sense.
I would hate to see what would happen in court trying to defend unload multiple high cap mags to defend your self.
Not saying it's a bad idea to have more than one mag just think shot placement trumps a bunch of ammo.
Well if a few shots of Winchester Rangers to the face and chest doesnt stop whoever Im firing at I probably shouldnt have been in that situation in the first place. With all of the rounds Ive run thru my mags I havent had a magazine malfunction or break. Wait I retract that. I bent the feedlips one of my AR mags when I released it onto concrete. I read a few people saying they had M&P mags break? Where was the breakage and what were the circumstances around the breakage?
A Joab Horizontal Mag Pouch
I used to carry two spare mags. When I realized how important having a flashlight is, I exchanged one spare mag for a light. I now carry 1 spare mag, 1 light, and pepper spray in addition to my primary and back up guns.
To date, there has been no cases that we know of where a private citizen had to reload during a gun fight--that doesn't mean it won't happen. It is also a good idea to reload after a gunfight. With the magazine being the weakest link in the system, a spare is a good idea.
Only whats in the gun. I might start keeping a spare mag in the car though. Not sure what good that would do though.
It IS the shiznit Honestly... anyone who wants to carry a spare mag but doesn't want to carry it in their pockets... this is the most comfortable/concealable way I've found.
How do you carry the speed strips? I have speed strips, but actually rarely carry them.
I actually just ordered one of these last week, should be there when I get home!
+1 Hanwei!