Liberty Safe Confirms They Gave Feds Access Code to Gun Safe During Raid on January 6 Protester

[NHKevin]

I have a Liberty Safe.

What say ye NES? Re-combo or replace the mechanical dial lock?

To what end?
Why bother screwing with your lock if it is working for you?

 

[tbk5]

To what end?
Why bother screwing with your lock if it is working for you?

So no one else has my combination.

 

[watchman]

Here is a lawyers view on Liberty Safes dilemma



View: https://www.youtube.com/live/qhH-Yz4mvAE?si=p8EUT-PZ7qSa1y-Z

 

[watchman]

So no one else has my combination.

Feds do now if your guns look like they've been used and not cleaned they have been using them for range time

 

[greencobra]

when i had a locksmith in from boston lock and safe, he was in my safe in minutes. new york minutes, lightning fast minutes. a drill, spy cam and a long metal toothpick. noise...hardly none. he was a wizard.

 

[Reptile]

What Liberty Safe did was a violation.

In hind sight it would not have mattered. The feds would have just broke it open.

That is what I am seeing at the end of the day.

 

[watchman]

What Liberty Safe did was a violation.

In hind sight it would not have mattered. The feds would have just broke it open.

That is what I am seeing at the end of the day.

So better they worked for it then! Let them eat cake!!

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Highly determined and skilled?
If we are talking 99% of the gun 'safes' out there - Liberty included - any jamoke with an angle grinder can open them up lickety split.

Depends on the thickness of the steel - some take longer than others (but all are vulnerable).

 

[pastera]

Highly determined and skilled?
If we are talking 99% of the gun 'safes' out there - Liberty included - any jamoke with an angle grinder can open them up lickety split.

Was referring to a $16k TL rated safe
My point is a $1k-$2k homeowner safe and insurance is a better deal in the long run

 

[pastera]

Thinking about this earlier today. Had a thought. What if a person removes the serial number from the safe. I think it's usually a sticker or small plate. Manufacturer would have no way of knowing anything about accessing it unless it was purchased direct.

if you register the safe then they can just search by name, address or email

 

[Matt_SERE]

NSFW: the MEMEs, oh the MEMEs!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMhQeXBzJ3Q

 

[Asaltweapon]

Depends on the thickness of the steel - some take longer than others (but all are vulnerable).

I have a Husky K770 in the basement with a 12” diamond blade ready to go if you can stand the smell of 2 stroke gas mix in the house.

 

[Talon3]

There are a ton of cheap gun safes sitting in people's homes with this combination: 1-2-3-4-5.

Same combo president skroob used on his luggage in spaceballs.

 

[VetteGirlMA]

What Liberty Safe did was a violation.

In hind sight it would not have mattered. The feds would have just broke it open.

That is what I am seeing at the end of the day.

Apparently though there is a master code that can be used to enter any liberty safe and they give it out to the feds. That's not exactly confidence inspiring when buying a product with the literal name of "safe".

I would say give lock picking lawyer a few weeks and he'll probably find out what it is and we'll all be shocked to our cores.

Putting aside the 'access to feds' issue is the idea that criminals will eventually find out the secret trick to opening a liberty safe and they will clean it out when robbing a home. That's the bigger danger to society created by a company that created a backdoor probably at the behest of law enforcement to begin with.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Feds do now if your guns look like they've been used and not cleaned they have been using them for range time

Or run for ballistics.

 

[Bt74]

I wonder if this would help from a legal standpoint, but if the Feds target you its off to the gulag

View attachment 793117

Where can you get this?

 

[pastera]

Where can you get this?

Just print it out and use packing tape to attach
If you want to make it harder to remove then spray the back with something like 3M 77 and use a self adhesive laminating sheet to cover it

 

[Rob Boudrie]

A personally made a sign with the additional details makes your specific intent much clearer.

Perhaps the most important details is that the safe and contents are exclusively yours and no other person, even if they hold power of attorney, is authorized to give consent. You may be able to look a police officer in the eye and politely say "no", but if your spouse does not share that trait, plays the "ok, he has nothing to hide" line, or otherwise consents it could be considered a consent search.

 

[VetteGirlMA]

GUN SAFE MAGNET

Oni Gear Industries in collaboration with graphic designer Scott Nakanishi, we are proud to offer the Gun Safe Magnet! If you are a gun safe owner, this is a must have. Specifications Displayed Safety Warning Dimensions: 6.75"x 5.5" Weight: .075 lbs Color: Red, Orange and Yellow. Bright...

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Where can you get this?

 

[rep308]

Where can you get this?

They were $5 or something at some random gunshow I went to.

 

[Parker Schreiber]

GUN SAFE MAGNET

Oni Gear Industries in collaboration with graphic designer Scott Nakanishi, we are proud to offer the Gun Safe Magnet! If you are a gun safe owner, this is a must have. Specifications Displayed Safety Warning Dimensions: 6.75"x 5.5" Weight: .075 lbs Color: Red, Orange and Yellow. Bright...

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Kay (MiB): We at the FBI do not have a sense of humor we're aware of.

Poke the bear at your own peril. I can just imagine what would happen when an FBI bully-with-a-badge sees one of these magnets, because you are proclaiming that you have committed two crimes. Not only are booby traps illegal, but so is unlicensed possession of explosive materials. So if even if there wasn't a warrant for your arrest, you've just given them probable cause to arrest you. The charges won't stick, but you probably won't enjoy the process, and good luck getting the arrest record expunged.

That's not the real concern, though. Said bully may decide to call in the bomb squad to deal with your safe. Bomb squads correctly value their own safety over damage to your property, so whatever they decide they have to destroy in order to render your safe safe, you're going to end up paying the bill.

 

[Harry Christopher]

Same combo president skroob used on his luggage in spaceballs.

An alternative not requiring having to use a combination:

 

[Dadstoys]

Apparently though there is a master code that can be used to enter any liberty safe and they give it out to the feds. That's not exactly confidence inspiring when buying a product with the literal name of "safe".

I would say give lock picking lawyer a few weeks and he'll probably find out what it is and we'll all be shocked to our cores.

Putting aside the 'access to feds' issue is the idea that criminals will eventually find out the secret trick to opening a liberty safe and they will clean it out when robbing a home. That's the bigger danger to society created by a company that created a backdoor probably at the behest of law enforcement to begin with.

If it's a generalized code that opens any liberty safe it will be all over the web soon.
We know the feds leak like a screen door.
It would amuse them greatly to f*ck with gun owners.

 

[free]

Kay (MiB): We at the FBI do not have a sense of humor we're aware of.

Poke the bear at your own peril. I can just imagine what would happen when an FBI bully-with-a-badge sees one of these magnets, because you are proclaiming that you have committed two crimes. Not only are booby traps illegal, but so is unlicensed possession of explosive materials. So if even if there wasn't a warrant for your arrest, you've just given them probable cause to arrest you. The charges won't stick, but you probably won't enjoy the process, and good luck getting the arrest record expunged.

That's not the real concern, though. Said bully may decide to call in the bomb squad to deal with your safe. Bomb squads correctly value their own safety over damage to your property, so whatever they decide they have to destroy in order to render your safe safe, you're going to end up paying the bill.

I think you’re being over dramatic Parker.

 

[Dadstoys]

Put a countdown clock just inside the safe that activates when the door is opened .
Have a little harmless fun when they are running each other over trying to GTFO.

 

[Reptile]

This will make folks go back to dial combinations.

S&G

If you dial starts to get out of tune, pay $200 for a safe guy to reset it.

I bet that only happens every 20 years on a S&G dial.

If you are gentle dialing it may never happen.

No worries about batteries either.


For the Liberty electronics- I bet each electronic master combo is different. They just keep track by safe serial numbers.

More guns = more problems.

Just own one or two.

Keep the rest buried. You’ll sleep good knowing they are safe under the earth.

If you simplify your life and don’t collect expensive things - nobody will want to rob you.

 

[EJFudd]

If you simplify your life and don’t collect expensive things - nobody will want to rob you.

Truth!

 

[Broc]

If you simplify your life and don’t collect expensive things - nobody will want to rob you.

Exactly. So no pre-Healey Noveske lowers.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Apparently though there is a master code that can be used to enter any liberty safe and they give it out to the feds. That's not exactly confidence inspiring when buying a product with the literal name of "safe".

I would say give lock picking lawyer a few weeks and he'll probably find out what it is and we'll all be shocked to our cores.

Putting aside the 'access to feds' issue is the idea that criminals will eventually find out the secret trick to opening a liberty safe and they will clean it out when robbing a home. That's the bigger danger to society created by a company that created a backdoor probably at the behest of law enforcement to begin with.

The master code, if present, is specific to the lock - not a single code across various models. In some cases, it can be changed - but only if you know it - and the manufacturer withholds that info "for your protection" to they can "service you". It's not specifically a back door, but, if not provided to the buyer, can be used as one.

 

[Reptile]

Exactly. So no pre-Healey Noveske lowers.

I live in a shitty 3rd floor apartment. One bedroom. Good luck getting up the steps in a hurry.

I keep certain other things at work in a safe. The building has restricted access and security.

I sleep well knowing I’m not a target.

When I’m away from home I don’t worry either.

I own nothing and I’m happy!