pastera
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Yes, if they go after a gunshot it would fast track a constitutional challenge of the bill.
But fast track still isn't fast
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MA Gun Grab 2024: H.4885 - Passed legislature, headed to the governor
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But fast track still isn't fast
f*** when you put it that way, I need something now too
pastera
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How about instead of trying to find ways around the minuetia of this bill we simply fight it?
pastera
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Not all of us![[rofl]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/013.gif "ROFL [rofl]")
People on this board have been whistling past the graveyard for decades..........now the chickens have come home to roost in Massachusetts......and they're shitting all over them.......as chickens do.
But I get what you are saying - lots of bravado but no one shows up at the statehouse and few willing to donate the cost of even one gun a year to organizations that fight this crap
KBCraig
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I don't know if this has been posted here, but it's interesting.
Licensed carriers from other states would be able to carry in their vehicles (on body, in the vehicle only) while driving through MA. If they stop, they would have to comply with secure storage requirements.
View: https://x.com/MorosKostas/status/1814372700833624190
Licensed carriers from other states would be able to carry in their vehicles (on body, in the vehicle only) while driving through MA. If they stop, they would have to comply with secure storage requirements.
View: https://x.com/MorosKostas/status/1814372700833624190
You're entirely missing the point.
There are people gun owners (people like you) actively antagonize and vilify and threaten and (joke) about doing harm to, and THEY VOTE. Not only do they vote, but all of their allies who are not queer vote. And they don't give a shit about your gun rights because you are, in their minds an existential threat to them and their friends.
You can whine about what you believe is "right" or "correct" or "immutable" or whatever, and vilify them, and they'll vote against your rights because you threaten their lives.
You don't have to like it, but you can't whine about them disliking you when you actively vilify them. If you want to maintain or regain gun rights, you can't expect that to happen when you talk the way you do about people you need as an ally. You don't have to *like* trans people, but you sure as hell need to shut the f*** up about it, and maybe even pretend that they have rights that need to be defended too.
As to the rest of your questions: I don't care at all if a trans woman is in the bathroom/locker room with my mother/wife/daughter. They're not a threat to me or anyone I know. Trans people are victims of violence so much more often than the perpetrators the latter category barely even exists. "gaybashing" still exists.
But you know who is a threat? Queerphobic people who threaten them. I taught an LTC class with a bunch of trans women in it. They were there literally because they felt threatened by people who talk the way you do. It's actually worse than that: Men and women who are not .. traditionally attractive, are getting beat up because transphobic shitballs think they're trans, and for some reason have a problem with it.
deerdad
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I'm so wound up over this. I have a pile of soiled tighty whities that would put reptiles barrel of fleshlights to shame. The clerk at the checkout questioned why I had a shopping cart full of underwear and I was too embarrassed to tell the truth about whats happening in our state so I just told her premature ejaculation. She just shook her head and quickly rang me out.
Yeah we’ve seen what a Garand cost in a shop these days.
How much sales do we think dealers are going to lose with this ban? Maybe 75% loss in rifle sales? NY, Cali fugly SA shit doesn’t even look like an option.
Da_lucche
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So they are using generic lube rather than KY to f*** everyone. Awesome
“Pre 7/20/16”? What about 7/20/16 sales and transfers? There was a lot of stock sales that day.
I know what the FAQ says but now the legislators went and did this.
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Yeah, this is getting ridiculous with the what if scenarios. People need to fruckin relax, do what makes them comfortable, and wait for things to "shake out". It's going to take a while but winning in the end would be a great thing for all of our rights, not just in MA, especially if SCOTUS finally steps up decisively (even if it is another case that helps us).
People putting us down don't really understand what could happen in the next few years if Dems get in and the make-up of SCOTUS changes by some way (e.g., new liberal judges, stacking, etc.).
She is definitely signing it. Just setting up the venue and arranging the moms demand action and CNN crew to show up.
If it gets overturned in 3 years they’ll come up with something else. Never stopped Brandon from student loan “forgiveness” bribes.
But remember, the status of "copies and duplicates" registered post 7/20/16 is quite likely banned (I'm 90% certain of this). So you may be letting the government know you have felony possession of "illegal assault-style"guns.
The proposed law allows possession of legal ASWs on 8/1.
Assume all rifles to date are registered and MA compliant.
It is clear that all rifles pre 7/20/2016 are not ASWs by definition.
Doesn’t that mean ASWs only exist between 7/20/2016 and 8/1/2024?
From my dealer perspective: no one gives a f***. I have an order for nearly 30 ARs and a bunch of other shit. People are stacking up with full rifles, lowers, etc. at an insane rate. I'm not going to sleep much in the next 12 days. But on 08/02, I will continue to transfer whatever is legal on that day. And though some modifications may be required, they do exist without getting into grip fin territory. The Bill does not become law for 90 days, there is no registration system in place, and the categorization of frames and receivers as firearms does not occur on 08/01 if this Bill does get signed as is. Do with that information what you will.
If it’s not a preban (94) you incriminate yourself on the FA10 with the 2016 enforcement and now to be in wonky legislation.
Some new shit about 22LR and easily convertible adds more booby traps.
fencer
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Could someone please summarize the changes to where we can legally carry?
KH56010
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A lot of people have joked on here about getting an apartment in NH. But I actually started doing contract work where I'll go to a being built jobsite for 3-6 months. At the last one I rented an apartment, paid utilities and even got a tax free per diem to cover it, but my paycheck still went to my MA address as I was going back and did go back after the contract ended. What are the requirements for me to be able to buy firearms out of state, using NH as an example for this type of scenario? Or is that a no go?
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Section 124: Inserts a subsection to ch. 269 § 10 that would punish anyone who knowingly possesses a firearm in a prohibited area with a fine up to $1,000 and/or imprisonment in the HOC for up to 2 ½ years.
Defines prohibited areas as:
• Any place owned, leased or controlled by the state, county or municipal government used for gov admin, judicial or court admin proceedings, or correctional services including the building, grounds including parking lots (excludes public land available for hunting)
• Any place used for polling, while being used for polling, also qualifies including within 150 feet of that building
• Allows municipalities to exempt their buildings from the statute
• LTC, FID and Temporary LTC holders can store their firearm in a locked container in a vehicle within the prohibited area.
• Law enforcement are exempt
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I know it's a bit late but we should probably stop pointing out all the mistakes in this bill. The worse the language, the better for challenges, right?
If you have the correct ATF compliant documentation to buy as a dualie that's all you need. A real estate tax bill with your name works but a bunch of other things work too. 5 min of googling will find the list of qualifying documents. Also your residence has to be a dwelling. A tax bill for a tent on a bare piece of land isn't enough. (The feds actually care about this part)
Some remote "big box" dealers won't sell to you but there are dozens more who have no problem following federal law.
wildwest
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Damn, I need new windows and siding at my house. If I hadn't just lost all my guns on that alligator hunt down in the bayou. Wasn't sure what caliber to bring so I brought them all 
The only requirement is from the ATF which is that you "intend to make a home" in that state. You need some form of identification (face to the name, your MA ID or LTC would be fine). To prove residency, something issued by a "political subdivision" with your name on it that matches the address on the 4473. Anything issued by the city/state/town is fine. You can even get a non-resident vehicle registration. You don't need to, strictly speaking, prove residency but rather that you intend to reside there. Excise tax, public utility Bill, affidavit of residency...all of those can work as well. If you have any questions about what would work, feel free to message me.
This one is pretty wild… Is this going to be codified for ALL prohibited areas? Picking kids up at school etc etc - visiting a college etc… or is that a major difference?
Muskets, Replicas, Sling shots but not wrist rockets, Air soft, BB guns, the duck hunt gun from the original Nintendo, certain super soakers, and I believe low capacity staple guns.
chris_1001
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Crap. Mine is black and hi cap.
Sorry. That is way too ergonomic and deadly. Please try with this MA approved version.
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I just realized, this "shroud" atrocity would make an M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, M1A/M14 are all illegal as the wood/plastic covers the barrel and prevents shooter from burring their hand. This is absolute insanity.
wildwest
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It will make nearly everything not legal to be sold.
I don’t think the intent is to go that far. Stocks are not barrel shrouds. Guess we’ll see.
fencer
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Can someone point me to the actual roster?
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