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Does this stuff even exist in either bill? Nobody seems to be able to come up with much of anything. At this point, I'll watch GOAL and see what they have to say.
Yup. ALL OF IT!
That is not how it is as I understand it. The house passed their house bill. The senate did not like that, and passed their senate bill. Now they have to reconvene, with a conference committee comprised of both sides, to come up with a COMPROMISE BILL, which could be parts of both, or new language. Once that is decided and finalized, it gets voted on (not sure if by both sides or what), and then goes to the governor to sign. Not 100% sure on this, but more than the sentence this is in reply to.
I have so much stuff coming in these days, and hit the top highlights mostly, so must have missed that. Thank you.
OMG. Such a cluster.
Where did you get the idea that this is what GOAL does?
The House passed the House bill. The Senate took up the House bill and replaced all of the language with their own, then sent it back to the House. The House can either accept the Senate version as written or it can go to a conference committee. If it goes to conference, once something comes out of the conference, it's a straight up and down vote.
Much thanks... Having flashbacks working on the cure....lolHouse bill H.4420 renamed to ... 4139? 4607? Whatever, was "amended" with Senate bill S.2572.
S.2572's amendment was to erase all of the house bill and replace it with S.2572's text.
That text can be found here:
It has line numbers and stuff.
S.2572 passed with a ton if amendments, available here:
Amendment S.2572
malegislature.gov
the GOAL summary of Red-flag laws here:
Doesn't reflect what's in the Senate bill, it's what was in the old house bill. Except it doesn't, because even the House bill has a clause for "within the last six months" for healthcare providers.
Here's the House bill:
The relevant bits are in lines 330 to 339.
So, depending on which bits of the house and senate bill survive through to the final bill that hits the governor's desk, that will affect what bits we have to lives with.
Note that in BOTH bills there's a requirement for the health care provider to have provided service within six months. Only the house bill has the nonsense about school administrators and your employer.
Among many other things, sure. But they don't have any more votes to cast than the rest of us do. Their strength is in their members and the ability (and willingness) of those members to mobilize.
GOAL is powerless. I give to comm2A, SAF, GOA, etc..
Do you understand how big the seal clubbing advocacy.org is doing right now?
Unless they teach the ones who are willing to push forward. I have tried and will keep doing so. I belong to a club of 7000. They don’t put anything out until last minute. Then just put out the last thing that happened. Pretty pathetic.
Then it's up to us to make them change. Half a million gun owners would be a pretty formidable voting block here if they stood up for themselves.
Freedom was born here then slaughtered.
I wish this was true , but half a million is like pissing in the ocean in Massachusetts with a population of close to 7 million
And of the half million, maybe 50,000 are avid gun enthusiats and 2a advocates, maybe. I bet most people that own guns have it because they just want the option of owning one before laws change. But at the end of the day they really don't care.
100%
If all the gun owners voted and we had a better candidate....we would have won. I mean this respectfully, but mindsets like yours is why we keep losing. We can make a difference but it involves showing up. Something the liberals do and we don't.
Ah, NO. Even if we assume that none of the 1/2m gun owners voted for Diehl, which is unlikely but would give us the biggest impact. And we assume all 1/2m voted for Diehl, Maura would still have won.
