MA Gun Grab 2024: H.4885 - Passed legislature, headed to the governor

[42!]

I will point this out again - OPEN CARRY is still legal in MA. This bill does not take it away.

No but suitability does.

 

[Broc Tuah]

No but suitability does.

You are just jealous.

 

[Agnotology]

All apply here......there is really no way to fix this because the reality is that we are overrun and severely outvoted no matter how we as gun owners vote. Fighting here and possibly losing everything I've worked for due to having to defend myself legally or being labelled a nut etc....not worth it for me. Fxck the state is NOT worth it....to me.

This is only guns either...really.....high taxes, bad weather, coddling illegals, crazy ass politicians, fuel and electricity insecurity policies.....etc.....all are included in this. Really a lot of it isn't gun stuff, but really what might be better for the future for me and my family.

I don't knock anyone its a personal decision.

Late reply, but I've had one idea for a campaign that might work that I've been sloshing around in my smooth-brain for a few years.

Anti-gun is Pro-Rape.

The gist of the argument being that the only thing that can prevent a rape from occurring is an armed victim. Restricting a woman's right to keep and bear arms means you are fine with women being raped.

It's a strawman tactic, for sure. "How can you be OK with AR-15s? Enjoy the blood on your hands from your assault weapon!" But it's effective. The 50% below average IQ people George Carlin warned us about.

I'm obviously no wordsmith. But what part of the statement can you argue with? High potency Pepper Spray can cause a unresolved attacker to back off, but not one who has a galvanized purpose. Like a rapist. And no one cares about the table-flipped victim? Who cries over a rapist dying?

 

[42!]

You are just jealous.

Not really, I live in NH where we can open carry and no one cares, and suppressors too, let's not forget that. And no permission slip required.

 

[The Ugly]

No you are times infinity. I win.

are you petting a gerbil?

 

[pastera]

They get money from a lot of folks, some that probably don't have a lot of extra money to give. Money is where the power is. So, I don't care about the showing up part that people keep squawking about. Rallies aren't fixing this, they hate us, it's simple.

Instead of sitting down with lawmakers and trying to explain things, tell them to EABOD and file a lawsuit already.

Votes are where the power is and gun owners simply don't care enough to show up when and how it counts.
The anti's are comfortable in that no one runs against them - if the right actually showed up with time and money we might be able to field a couple of decent candidates
But that won't happen because gin owners won't support conservative candidates because they think it's a lost cause or they like the free shit democrats give them.

 

[MFSP101]

So I’ve been away for a couple of days. Is there any grandfathering?

 

[pastera]

So I’ve been away for a couple of days. Is there any grandfathering?

Yes, but mostly no.
And sometimes even maybe.

.

 

[wildwest]

All Winchester model 94's are grandfathered

 

[Grendizer138]

Votes are where the power is and gun owners simply don't care enough to show up when and how it counts.
The anti's are comfortable in that no one runs against them - if the right actually showed up with time and money we might be able to field a couple of decent candidates
But that won't happen because gin owners won't support conservative candidates because they think it's a lost cause or they like the free shit democrats give them.

I’m a broken record at this point, but Massachusetts gun-owner =/= right wing.

 

[HARRYM]

No but suitability does.

Indeed, "suitability" is devious and all it means is someone's opinion and not based on the law.

 

[HKTony45]

are you petting a gerbil?

Sorry for the delay in my response I was too busy giving your ol lady the d while your here being an internet tough guy

 

[Picton]

Sorry for the delay in my response I was too busy giving your ol lady the d while your here being an internet tough guy

*you're

 

[HKTony45]

*you're

Thanks teach

 

[HKTony45]

Another member of the free shit army NES membership with a disrespectful keyboard in moms basement. We need a NES vetting process.

Another inbred tard providing once again no real input on a forum when someone asks a question.

 

[HARRYM]

Also remember its the GD Police Chiefs that keep insisting on "suitability"

 

[Hogie1]

I will point this out again - OPEN CARRY is still legal in MA. This bill does not take it away.

There will still be plenty of officers that don't understand that (along with most of the public), I don't know why anyone would want to draw that negativity upon themselves the way things are going in this state.

 

[Mountain]

Late reply, but I've had one idea for a campaign that might work that I've been sloshing around in my smooth-brain for a few years.

Anti-gun is Pro-Rape.

The gist of the argument being that the only thing that can prevent a rape from occurring is an armed victim. Restricting a woman's right to keep and bear arms means you are fine with women being raped.

It's a strawman tactic, for sure. "How can you be OK with AR-15s? Enjoy the blood on your hands from your assault weapon!" But it's effective. The 50% below average IQ people George Carlin warned us about.

I'm obviously no wordsmith. But what part of the statement can you argue with? High potency Pepper Spray can cause a unresolved attacker to back off, but not one who has a galvanized purpose. Like a rapist. And no one cares about the table-flipped victim? Who cries over a rapist dying?

Silly person- nobody cares about such things as rape. #MeToo has gone the way of Pet Rocks and Beanie Babies. Sarcasm aside, I don't think even attacks on gender of the day people would result in any support for them to defend themselves. The logic will always be twisted to GUNZ BAD!!! ideology and there is an ever increasing amount of people stupid enough to believe that taking away guns will create a magic power that protects them from all evil.

Honestly, I think there's a good number of the LGBTQ crowd who understands that they are more vulnerable to violence and would be interested in having a gun for self defense. Unfortunately many if not most of them find themselves in a subculture that has gunz bad ideology as one of its core beliefs.

While I support the organizations, people, and my own legislators who oppose this law; I won't give two sh!ts about whatever nonsense the leftists in control of MA cook up and pass. I've had to defend my life with a gun twice in my lifetime- 3 on 1 in one circumstance and 4 on 1 in the other. Self defense in such situations is a human right I will not give up.

 

[Roadglide]

Another inbred tard providing once again no real input on a forum when someone asks a question.

You know you’re bad when I’m telling you this. Slow down read more and talk less. Grow a thicker skin and it will be a more enjoyable experience for you.

 

[B191299]

Late reply, but I've had one idea for a campaign that might work that I've been sloshing around in my smooth-brain for a few years.

Anti-gun is Pro-Rape.

The gist of the argument being that the only thing that can prevent a rape from occurring is an armed victim. Restricting a woman's right to keep and bear arms means you are fine with women being raped.

It's a strawman tactic, for sure. "How can you be OK with AR-15s? Enjoy the blood on your hands from your assault weapon!" But it's effective. The 50% below average IQ people George Carlin warned us about.

I'm obviously no wordsmith. But what part of the statement can you argue with? High potency Pepper Spray can cause a unresolved attacker to back off, but not one who has a galvanized purpose. Like a rapist. And no one cares about the table-flipped victim? Who cries over a rapist dying?

I have been using this argument with my liberal friends for years. They roll their eyes but don't have a good rebuttal.

 

[Mountain]

Translation: "I was able to stick some corn kernels into the steaming pile of sh!t. Bon Appetit."
Bon Appetit yourself.

Not so fast there, you can't fool me. The corn kernels were already there.

 

[mothybee]

Grandfathering! As one, I'm getting damn sick and tired of all this cultural appropriation!

 

[not new guy]

Can we at least consider finding a gender neutral, non-racist alternative to saying “grandfathering”? Grandpersoning maybe?

Say This Instead: "Grandfathering" - PracticalESG

Some common words & phrases in business have racist origins and should be removed from the lexicons of companies seeking to be inclusive and safe workplaces.

practicalesg.com

 

[HorizontalHunter]

Wait, fellas, I’m still confused here…IS THERE GRANDFATHERING?!?!?!?!? WILL MOMS DEMAND ACTION DOXX AND THEN RED FLAG????? IS THAT THE FRICKING PLAN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Nobody knows. The senate bill will be combined with the house bill in a committee meeting, get voted on, and sent to the governor’s desk. Short of having an accurate crystal ball there is no way to know

The plan is simple:

 

[HKTony45]

You know you’re bad when I’m telling you this. Slow down read more and talk less. Grow a thicker skin and it will be a more enjoyable experience for you.

I’m not the one who needs a thicker skin bud. The cucks and inbreds in this forum who are keyboard warriors do.

 

[Roadglide]

I’m not the one who needs a thicker skin bud. The cucks and inbreds in this forum who are keyboard warriors do.

Ok by all means carry on then

 

[Mountain]

Amendment 2
Strengthening the Prohibition on Silencers

LOL, what? Reminds me of an Animal House scene.

 

[HKTony45]

Ok by all means carry on then

Thank you sir.

 

[Broc Tuah]

There will still be plenty of officers that don't understand that (along with most of the public), I don't know why anyone would want to draw that negativity upon themselves the way things are going in this state.

you thought I was serious?

 

[AJK129]

you thought I was serious?

Surely