wildwest
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Guessing he was trying to save face and it backfired. 
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MA Gun Grab 2024: H.4885 - Passed legislature, headed to the governor
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Dadstoys
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The most likely scenario is he got promised some sweet committee assignments.
He boned us on red flags.
Why would we think he's not boning us again?
He’s a MA Republican.
That’s about the best you should expect from one. Especially one that was elected in this state.
That’s about the best you should expect from one. Especially one that was elected in this state.
slipknot
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So the Chiefs of Police support is unanimous on this as well? Unanimous? interesting
DeadEyeDan
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You and Elon Musk!
Email from Patrick O’Connor:
“Good Afternoon,
I’m emailing you because you have reached out to me in the past few weeks to share your concerns with gun bill before the legislature. I wanted you to know that I heard you and kept your thoughts and perspective in mind when I voted against this legislation.
In addition to my strong opposition to the Senate President’s unprecedented choice to not hold a public hearing, I chose not to support this bill due to the questionable constitutionality of certain provisions (namely, lack of total grandfathering for existing assault weapons and vicarious liability), and its lack of stiffer penalties for illegal firearms. I felt that this bill did not adequately address gun violence, so I submitted a substitute amendment that struck the entire language of the bill and replaced it with commonsense provisions that narrowly target illegal firearms that fully protects Massachusetts’ citizens’ 2nd Amendment rights.
I remain hopeful that the legislation that comes out of Conference Committee will contain commonsense reforms that respect our constitutional rights while actually addressing the root of gun violence in our state – the illegal possession and illegal use of firearms.
Thank you again for reaching out on this issue. Please feel free to reach out if I can help you or your family in the future.
Best,
Patrick O’Connor
State Senator“
“Good Afternoon,
I’m emailing you because you have reached out to me in the past few weeks to share your concerns with gun bill before the legislature. I wanted you to know that I heard you and kept your thoughts and perspective in mind when I voted against this legislation.
In addition to my strong opposition to the Senate President’s unprecedented choice to not hold a public hearing, I chose not to support this bill due to the questionable constitutionality of certain provisions (namely, lack of total grandfathering for existing assault weapons and vicarious liability), and its lack of stiffer penalties for illegal firearms. I felt that this bill did not adequately address gun violence, so I submitted a substitute amendment that struck the entire language of the bill and replaced it with commonsense provisions that narrowly target illegal firearms that fully protects Massachusetts’ citizens’ 2nd Amendment rights.
I remain hopeful that the legislation that comes out of Conference Committee will contain commonsense reforms that respect our constitutional rights while actually addressing the root of gun violence in our state – the illegal possession and illegal use of firearms.
Thank you again for reaching out on this issue. Please feel free to reach out if I can help you or your family in the future.
Best,
Patrick O’Connor
State Senator“
Tallahassee
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So, is everything good now? Is there grandfathering?
Tallahassee
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Nope.
Roadglide
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Lost me at common sense. Anything less than I won’t support this illegal unconstitutional bullshit is ………bullshit.
Tallahassee
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Tallahassee
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That's the 19th amendment.
MaroonedinMA
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"Grandfathering" sounds like a euphemism for something that should carry a long sentence.
Tallahassee
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Sure thing.
Apparently to most gun owners, if there is grandfathering, this bill is acceptable. So, sure enough, I guess there will be grandfathering. What about your other gun rights? Well, those go right into the shitter. But, hey, grandfathering.
Now, the next pos gun bill they ram in your anus, will that have grandfathering? Maybe, but I doubt it.
not new guy
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Nothing to worry about wrt pre 94 rifles. Everything else requires worrying however.
DarthRevan
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the shortsightedness of it all is amazing.
Well, I mean, it's really not that bad of a bill. Because I can still shoot my Hi-Point. Amirite?
My grandfather was roughly my height, will I be ok with this bill?
My grandfather has been dead for years, how will this affect my haggard gen 2 Glock that I bought from FS for $900?
alan226
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Grandfathering is something you get now, if you capitulate, only to be taken away later.
For the children you know....
Wait I think I figured it out, I have my grandfathers FID from like 40-50 years ago, that covers me right
Rocky Mosasaurus
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Wait, fellas, I’m still confused here…IS THERE GRANDFATHERING?!?!?!?!? WILL MOMS DEMAND ACTION DOXX AND THEN RED FLAG????? IS THAT THE FRICKING PLAN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
kevin9
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Translation: "I was able to stick some corn kernels into the steaming pile of sh!t. Bon Appetit."
Bon Appetit yourself.
I will point this out again - OPEN CARRY is still legal in MA. This bill does not take it away.
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