With all the weight he has lost his picture will actually fit on the milk carton.
That's a relief! We won't have to use two sides to get his picture on the milk carton any more. That'll save the club some big bucks!
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With all the weight he has lost his picture will actually fit on the milk carton.
I was at a CAS match today and a couple of people said they heard Mansfield was going to have a Cowboy match. Who's running it and when. And do they need any help?
LenS, What time on Sunday will they be signing up for renewals? I missed it today traveling back from New Hampshire.
The Mansfield club was very supportive of Allan and CAS, giving them the range dates they wanted for shoots, giving them access to both the ranges and the club house as well as fronting them the monies to buy steel and other shooting apparatus.Next get the Mansfield club behind him with no bitching and moaning about how the range is tied up all day on Saturday like some did with Allan.---KnobCreek
Burden? Imposition? This explains a lot! I would not want to place a burden on your club or impose on you. I will continue to shoot and work with the 25 or so other clubs in New England that are happy to work with the CAS, IDPA, USPSA and treat it as a partnership where everyone gets something out of it instead of being burdened by them.The Mansfield club was very supportive of Allan and CAS, giving them the range dates they wanted for shoots, giving them access to both the ranges and the club house as well as fronting them the monies to buy steel and other shooting apparatus.
What the club membership wouldn’t do is set up and take down the event for them.
I think it’s important that CAS realize that the Mansfield club is doing CAS a favor by allowing CAS to shoot at the club. CAS needs to understand that it is a burden to the club membership. CAS might try being humble when it deals with the club/club members, set up and take down quickly to minimize the burden CAS creates and quit whining about people noting the imposition that CAS shooting causes the club membership.
Respectfully,
jkelly
Yes, it explains exactly what the problem with CAS is.Burden? Imposition? This explains a lot! I would not want to place a burden on your club or impose on you.---KnobCreek
C-Pher,That's part of the reason that Allan no longer runs these shoots. As part of the CAS group at Mansfield...it was tough when we were treated as such.
CAS brought in a lot of money....and for the record, the CAS funds bought the steel, CAS wasn't "Fronted" the monies for the steel.
When we're treated as a burden for bringing in money for the club, it keeps people from wanting to put these together.
And while I didn't have time to run these myself...I was very happy to hear that Knob Creek was willing to help. He's brought up the reduced memberships many times before for people to come into Mansfield and help out. I think that it was a great idea. But where I"m working two jobs, and one of them has me working Wednesday Nights...I can't really do much about it.
CAS brought in around 1000 dollars a shoot to this club every month. It's a shame that members see making that kind of money a burden.
~Squirrely
Of course it’s a burden and an imposition to the club and its membership, what did you think the lost of 23 hours (the last time I checked) of range time over two days was?
CAS needs to understand there is little realized benefit by the general membership at Mansfield, as only a very, very few members shoot CAS. All the active shooting members see is that two ranges are shut down for parts of two days.
Allan did a great job with CAS at Mansfield, but like many organizers he was over worked and under supported by CAS.
Respectfully,
jkelly
"CAS starts set up a about 3pm on Friday night that’s about 3 three hours. On the last shoot that I noticed CAS used the range on a Saturday from 8:00am and hadn’t picked up by 4:30pm. That’s 8 ½ hours for a two day total of 11 ½ hours and they did that on two ranges. That’s 23 hours for the shoot..."---Me, from post 108 in this thread23 Hours? Not 23 hours of shooting time if you set up Friday afternoon and take down 3:00 Saturday. Do you shoot in the dark?KnobCreek
I said that:Apparently you and some others are unwilling to be inconvenienced with the range being shut down. Maybe the active members should pay attention to the Treasurers report also. And if you can continue to forego the revenue that CAS brought in that would help build your indoor. Thats OK its your club. Maybe that's why Action pistol left years ago and went down the road to Independent.---Knob Creek
I guess you missed that.I’m for ALL shooting sports that club members want to run at the club, including CAS.---Me
If the CAS shoots did indeed put 1k/event into the club's coffers per shoot I'd be very impressed, I hope C-Pher is checking into that.I would think any activity that puts $1k/event into a club's coffers and brings people to that club is A Good Thing. That money means the ability to maintain/upgrade/expand the club's facilities and programs, which benefits the members generally.
As for the action pistol events moving to Independent - they did and they are thriving in that location. We had the usual action pistol event, a revolver-only event AND a rimfire rifle event last month alone.
Dana,They used to run them about every other month spring into end of fall. The amount netted varied up $1000, more typically around $700. There is a cowboy fund as part of activities money.---Dana
I'm guessing, by your estimates, that the club profitted about $12,000 to $14,000 dollars the last two years that CAS ran. $1000 profit each month for 6 or 7 shoots a year for two years. That's a lot of money!We would easly have 50-60 shooters....at 20 dollars a pop.
Take away 150 or so for food...
You tell me how much that money is?
I was there, collecting money before shoots and helping with Registration.
I would come and help set up...and when I did shoot, stayed to tear down.
Yes some club members have no use for CAS, some still talk of the CAS equipment left on the range long after the last shoot ended.What happened in the past is not relative. You now have volunteers willing to step forward but some club members still resentful of having the range tied up.
I can't figure out what you want. You ask for help and someone offers help and then you have complaints about the range being tied up.
No, the problem is you’re telling me what I should care about. That is a good example of the point I’m trying to make.Problem is you should care. It's money that used to come into the club, that isn't.---C-Pher
If there was a profit from CAS over the last couple of years, and there must have been but I don’t seem to be able to get a actual figure, the average shooter couldn’t tell.
The club did well before CAS got there and it would do well after CAS leaves.