Maryland AWB case Snope v Brown going to SCOTUS. (Formerly Bianchi v Brown & Bianchi v Frosh)

Picton said:
From their standpoint, there's no real rush. And there are several relevant cases in the pipeline; having waited this long, they might be wondering what's going to happen with some of those.

It's a pain in the ass for us, though I don't really expect the justices to care much about that.
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This is a copium based opinion, but maybe the court is aware of what typically happens when major 2A bills or cases start getting strong traction and were waiting for the Trump nominees to get confirmed for certain agency directors as those are usually where toys get wound up.

Maybe figuring if they wait and then grant cert no toys will disturb the process.
 

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Thread '9th Circuit En Banc Rules As Expected For California In Duncan v. Bonta Mag Ban (Judge VanDyke Dissent Video Included)'

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Employing the methodology announced in New York State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n v. Bruen, 597 U.S. 1 (2022), the en banc court concluded that California’s law comported with the Second Amendment for two independent reasons. First, the text of the Second Amendment does not encompass the right to possess large-capacity magazines because large-capacity magazines are neither “arms” nor protected accessories. Second, even assuming that the text of the Second Amendment...
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Thread '9th Circuit En Banc Rules As Expected For California In Duncan v. Bonta Mag Ban (Judge VanDyke Dissent Video Included)'

The Opinion:
Employing the methodology announced in New York State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n v. Bruen, 597 U.S. 1 (2022), the en banc court concluded that California’s law comported with the Second Amendment for two independent reasons. First, the text of the Second Amendment does not encompass the right to possess large-capacity magazines because large-capacity magazines are neither “arms” nor protected accessories. Second, even assuming that the text of the Second Amendment...
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I think this what the courts has been waiting for….. expect good news on Monday
 
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Video dissent


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Thread '9th Circuit En Banc Rules As Expected For California In Duncan v. Bonta Mag Ban (Judge VanDyke Dissent Video Included)'

The Opinion:
Employing the methodology announced in New York State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n v. Bruen, 597 U.S. 1 (2022), the en banc court concluded that California’s law comported with the Second Amendment for two independent reasons. First, the text of the Second Amendment does not encompass the right to possess large-capacity magazines because large-capacity magazines are neither “arms” nor protected accessories. Second, even assuming that the text of the Second Amendment...
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Video was posted to the earlier discussion thread...
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Thread '9th Circuit En Banc Rules As Expected For California In Duncan v. Bonta Mag Ban (Judge VanDyke Dissent Video Included)'

The Opinion:
Employing the methodology announced in New York State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n v. Bruen, 597 U.S. 1 (2022), the en banc court concluded that California’s law comported with the Second Amendment for two independent reasons. First, the text of the Second Amendment does not encompass the right to possess large-capacity magazines because large-capacity magazines are neither “arms” nor protected accessories. Second, even assuming that the text of the Second Amendment...
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The horror!
 
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Is "Ocean State/RI" a part of this?

Does anyone have a good summary of this? Maybe 3-5 sentences to send out to 1500 club members. Just a high level overview. Thanks.
 
Coyote33 said:
Is "Ocean State/RI" a part of this?

Does anyone have a good summary of this? Maybe 3-5 sentences to send out to 1500 club members. Just a high level overview. Thanks.
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No, strictly the 9th circuit. I’ll leave an eloquent summary for someone else, but this is the culmination of the CA magazine ban bouncing around CA/9th circuit for years. Remember Judge Benitez’ freedom week?
 
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The Opinion:
Employing the methodology announced in New York State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n v. Bruen, 597 U.S. 1 (2022), the en banc court concluded that California’s law comported with the Second Amendment for two independent reasons. First, the text of the Second Amendment does not encompass the right to possess large-capacity magazines because large-capacity magazines are neither “arms” nor protected accessories. Second, even assuming that the text of the Second Amendment...
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A magazine is not an accessory.

Okay, let's go with that. If it's not an accessory then it must be considered as part of the firearm itself, because without a magazine the firearm can't be used for it's intended purpose.

I suppose you could always load a single round at a time into an AR, but that's not how the rifle was designed to operate.

Maybe I'm stupid because this ruling makes no sense to me. It's like saying a car is still a car even if it has no fuel tank.
 
center442 said:
A magazine is not an accessory.

Okay, let's go with that. If it's not an accessory then it must be considered as part of the firearm itself, because without a magazine the firearm can't be used for it's intended purpose.

I suppose you could always load a single round at a time into an AR, but that's not how the rifle was designed to operate.

Maybe I'm stupid because this ruling makes no sense to me. It's like saying a car is still a car even if it has no fuel tank.
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Yes, it makes no sense. The state of CA claimed that it is an accessory because nothing is stopping you from using a 10 round magazine. Bad logic, of course.

But that’s the same state that is trying to argue the threshold for 2A protection is a firearm “in common use for self defense” which is was never stated by SCOTUS, limiting it to “for self defense”.
 
center442 said:
A magazine is not an accessory.

Okay, let's go with that. If it's not an accessory then it must be considered as part of the firearm itself, because without a magazine the firearm can't be used for it's intended purpose.

I suppose you could always load a single round at a time into an AR, but that's not how the rifle was designed to operate.

Maybe I'm stupid because this ruling makes no sense to me. It's like saying a car is still a car even if it has no fuel tank.
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Or no wheels!
 

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