Moving to MA with ARs

[GL2020]

He's going to find out right away that being south of the city is just as much of a punch in the nut sack as driving from New Hampshire and then he'll wonder why he decided to screw his entire life up by doing this this way. Commuting from "down there" is basically just punching yourself in the balls repetitively.

Yup, I've tried to tell people that on several occasions...being "near" the city is often just as bad as living in the burbs if you work "in" the city. There are people I see get on the train in Mansfield and Sharon who have shorter commutes than people who live in Quincy. Live in Mansfield and work near Back bay or Ruggles you could have a 40 minute commute.

 

[Golddiggie]

No disrespect to the live free or die state, but why can't you smoke weed in your state?

More of a "don't ask, don't tell" scenario from what I've heard.

Personally, I don't toke the stuff. Hell, I barely drink as it stands. I just don't fault other people from doing things that aren't self destructive (moderate use is OK IMO). Who knows, maybe the NH regs will change sometime in the next few years. I have zero pony in that race, so DGAF either way.

IMO, the 2A situation in NH far outshines the lack of 'legal' weed usage in the state. The 2A situation in MA would probably drive me to NEED to take up smoking weed to offset.

 

[whatluck]

Too late on the move to New Hampshire and commute. Would be way too far anyway and I don't have my own car. Working near the downtown Tufts Medical area and got a place near the subway station in Quincy. Rent prices downtown Boston is rape.

Careful walking around late at night around there.

 

[Bt74]

Yes they can.

50% of women are on meds....100% of Boston women are.

 

[Jenska22]

if you're renting the laws may not matter as much, what's your lease say? No pets, no smoking, no guns?

 

[Coda]

This is not true. I don’t agree with the NH law on weed possession. But no, you will not go to jail for having half a joint.

 

[ColumbusOceanBlue]

if you're renting the laws may not matter as much, what's your lease say? No pets, no smoking, no guns?

I've only seen the no guns thing once and it was a friend in a large apartment building complex. Typically smaller landlords in multi family homes don't bother injecting anti gun clauses into a lease. Don't ask don't tell stuff and why would they care? They're running criminal and credit checks anyway.

 

[Buck F]

They can't all be insufferable leftists can they?

Yeah, they can. But they're good in the sack too, if you can tolerate the politics. Not going to lie, super conservative women turn me off about as much as super liberal ones.

 

[LakeTrout]

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oh wow. I would not have expected that to be funny in some way when I read it

 

[Coda]

It was intended as an exaggeration/joke.

A lot of people are telling the OP to stay out of MA and move to NH. Then he asked about legal weed and I could not resist pointing out that not everything is better in NH.

 

[LakeTrout]

It was intended as an exaggeration/joke.

A lot of people are telling the OP to stay out of MA and move to NH. Then he asked about legal weed and I could not resist pointing out that not everything is better in NH.

I understand. But you still owe me a joke now. I don’t accept the first one as being funny enough.

 

[Golddiggie]

It was intended as an exaggeration/joke.

A lot of people are telling the OP to stay out of MA and move to NH. Then he asked about legal weed and I could not resist pointing out that not everything is better in NH.

Yeah, well, weed laws should the lowest thing on someone's list for reasons to NOT move someplace. Especially when that could change at pretty much any point. The chances of MA reversing ANY of their stupid gun laws is pretty much zero.

 

[milktree]

IIRC, if they were not in the state on 8/1, they can't be here now.

Right. In many cases it'd be nearly impossible to prove the gun's location on a particular day.

I beleive the new law applies to the gun as manufactured and they cannot be retrofit to meet the new definition.

It's essentially impossible to "convert" any AR to a non ASF configuration because of the "parts interchangeability" shit.

Maybe I don't understand what you mean. Which new definition? In what context?

e.g.: A free state AR with all the bad bits could very well have been stripped of its upper receiver, brought into MA on 8/1 and possessed by an LTC holder, then brought back to NH and re-assembled.

This meets "lawfully possessed in MA", because as a lower without an upper, it didn't count as a rifle under the laws at the time.

It also meets the current "Assault-Style Firearm" definition in current law, because it's the receiver of a scary gun.

Therefore, under current law, that gun, which is owned by a NH resident, can legally be brought into MA, sold to a MA resident, and be in any configuration.

You might get boned when they don't believe that the lower was in MA on 8/1/24, but it's legal as the law is written.

 

[Coda]

Yeah, well, weed laws should the lowest thing on someone's list for reasons to NOT move someplace. Especially when that could change at pretty much any point. The chances of MA reversing ANY of their stupid gun laws is pretty much zero.

I agree. But the problem with that strategy is that in general as a state becomes more liberal with their weed laws, they also become more liberal with their gun laws.

 

[Golddiggie]

I agree. But the problem with that strategy is that in general as a state becomes more liberal with their weed laws, they also become more liberal with their gun laws.

Just another reason why I really don't care about weed laws/regulations as a whole.

Now if we could only get the libtards to leave the tardism at the state line when moving into NH. I know, not going to happen. They claim to want to leave the PRM due to all the laws being put in place. Then they vote to do the same shit all over again. Not just in NH, but plenty of other states too. I'm just glad there's enough right minded people left in NH to stop that shit from happening. At least for now.

 

[mcb]

Please cite. Instead of repeating this Trope that everybody talks about all the time with nothing to back it up. The worst thing that could literally happen is that if the place got robbed or burned down then the facility insurance would not cover any of your shit and they would not be liable for anything that happened to it. You could really only incur any liability if you stored something dumb like flammables in there and it contributed to the building burning down or something.

For example, the green storage company, ammunition does fall under this clause in the typical contract:

IT IS SPECIFICALLY UNDERSTOOD AND AGREED THAT CUSTOMER SHALL NOT STORE OR USE IN THE SPACE OR AT THE FACILITY ANY HAZARDOUS OR TOXIC MATERIALS OR ANY INHERENTLY DANGEROUS OR FLAMMABLE SUBSTANCE.



They also claim the right to dispose of any materials found, which would be weird since they don’t normally have rights to access your unit and can't simply dispose of private property.

Buried in my records I do have an old contract with storage facility that explicitly forbid firearm and ammunition storage, this was in the Foxboro area. If I were to violate the terms of any contract I am at risk for arbitration/civil dispute/eviction etc.

The criminal risk is there in my opinion, you may not be found guilty improper storage, but you are at risk here of taking a trip to court. Maybe I'm clutching my purse here.

 

[Golddiggie]

For example, the green storage company, ammunition does fall under this clause in the typical contract:

IT IS SPECIFICALLY UNDERSTOOD AND AGREED THAT CUSTOMER SHALL NOT STORE OR USE IN THE SPACE OR AT THE FACILITY ANY HAZARDOUS OR TOXIC MATERIALS OR ANY INHERENTLY DANGEROUS OR FLAMMABLE SUBSTANCE.

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They also claim the right to dispose of any materials found, which would be weird since they don’t normally have rights to access your unit and can't simply dispose of private property.

Buried in my records I do have an old contract with storage facility that explicitly forbid firearm and ammunition storage, this was in the Foxboro area. If I were to violate the terms of any contract I am at risk for arbitration/civil dispute/eviction etc.

The criminal risk is there in my opinion, you may not be found guilty improper storage, but you are at risk here of taking a trip to court. Maybe I'm clutching my purse here.

So, just get a good safe, put your pews inside (that are not MA hamstrung/neutered) and call it a day. Get your PRM LTC so you can keep your ammo at your residence and you're GTG. Any modern pistols (post 1994), just get 10 round magazines for. Really nothing hard here.

When I rented a storage unit, for when I was between places, I had my pews inside (inside a locking cabinet/safe). Along with my ammo and reloading supplies. No fvcks were given. Nothing was stolen, etc. I did use my own lock on the unit. I also had the supplies/ammo in containers that obscured them from view.

 

[42!]

Quincy is not part of Boston, right? I should be good but yeah I don't want to destroy my elite builds to weld a 10 round mag you have to load by sticking a bullet at at a time through the ejection port. ARs stay with my buddy and who knows, I might hop jobs again in a few years to a freer state but this job is pretty sweet at least for now. Guess I'll leave the over ten round mags back home as well. I heard threaded barrel pistols are considered assault weapons? I have a few that have threads, but don't own any suppressors though. They are for compensators.

The commute is a bitch but you can always move to NH.

Damn, we're slipping folks...

OP, go green.


@Golddiggie does that help?

 

[Golddiggie]

The commute is a bitch but you can always move to NH.



OP, go green.


@Golddiggie does that help?

It's a move in the correct direction at least. Plus the OP SHOULD go green either way.

 

[M1911]

For example, the green storage company, ammunition does fall under this clause in the typical contract:

IT IS SPECIFICALLY UNDERSTOOD AND AGREED THAT CUSTOMER SHALL NOT STORE OR USE IN THE SPACE OR AT THE FACILITY ANY HAZARDOUS OR TOXIC MATERIALS OR ANY INHERENTLY DANGEROUS OR FLAMMABLE SUBSTANCE.

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They also claim the right to dispose of any materials found, which would be weird since they don’t normally have rights to access your unit and can't simply dispose of private property.

Buried in my records I do have an old contract with storage facility that explicitly forbid firearm and ammunition storage, this was in the Foxboro area. If I were to violate the terms of any contract I am at risk for arbitration/civil dispute/eviction etc.

The criminal risk is there in my opinion, you may not be found guilty improper storage, but you are at risk here of taking a trip to court. Maybe I'm clutching my purse here.

Criminal risk? For what? What crime? And unless there is a fire, do you really think a storage company would take you to court? What damage would you have done to them? You can't sue someone unless you can show that you have been harmed. If you brought ammunition in to a storage unit in unmarked boxes, how would they know, and what damage would you have caused?

 

[Golddiggie]

Criminal risk? For what? What crime? And unless there is a fire, do you really think a storage company would take you to court? What damage would you have done to them? You can't sue someone unless you can show that you have been harmed. If you brought ammunition in to a storage unit in unmarked boxes, how would they know, and what damage would you have caused?

^^^^ This...

I can understand them now wanting gasoline, and other such items, in the units since they can vent and be dangerous. But stored without being a dumbass should make things a non-issue for anything else.

 

[Coda]

Just another reason why I really don't care about weed laws/regulations as a whole.

And you are in NH. There are plenty of folks in MA who do care about weed laws/regulations as a whole.

 

[GL2020]

What, like that scene from Departed? Everyone who looks at you is a cop?

Think that was Good Will Hunting.
Ya Suspect

 

[Golddiggie]

And you are in NH. There are plenty of folks in MA who do care about weed laws/regulations as a whole.

Yes, I am... Never been into weed at all. Even going to an art college I didn't care. Plenty of people around me would partake, I just never did. Was never my bag baby.

As I mentioned, weed isn't even on my list of things to take into consideration for a state to move to. Gun laws are in the top few of the list. Besides general climate and cost of living. NFW am I moving to another state that doesn't have winters (or snow).

 

[Horatio Alger Jr]

They can't all be insufferable leftists can they?

Yes, they are

 

[LakeTrout]

And you are in NH. There are plenty of folks in MA who do care about weed laws/regulations as a whole.

I can see your point on this. It’s the whole reason I am not living in Utah right now. I like beer too much and their alcohol laws suck.

 

[G4Y4HK]

I mean the south and Republican states def have their own problems. Close to half the states require you to give up your identity if you wanna enjoy pornhub now.

 

[Toast]

It's essentially impossible to "convert" any AR to a non ASF configuration because of the "parts interchangeability" shit.

Maybe I don't understand what you mean. Which new definition? In what context?

I should have been more explicit. If it was in MA on 8/1, it's good to go.

If it was not in MA on 8/1, it cannot be reconfigured or modified in any way to meet MA regs.

e.g.: A free state AR with all the bad bits could very well have been stripped of its upper receiver, brought into MA on 8/1 and possessed by an LTC holder, then brought back to NH and re-assembled.

This meets "lawfully possessed in MA", because as a lower without an upper, it didn't count as a rifle under the laws at the time.

It also meets the current "Assault-Style Firearm" definition in current law, because it's the receiver of a scary gun.

Therefore, under current law, that gun, which is owned by a NH resident, can legally be brought into MA, sold to a MA resident, and be in any configuration.

You might get boned when they don't believe that the lower was in MA on 8/1/24, but it's legal as the law is written.

Sure, that's arguable, but there's a big caveat. The OP's rifles existed as such on some FLL's books, be it manufacturer or reseller. As a free state AR, it would have needed to have been transferred by an FFL to a MA LTC holder to meet the federal requirements for intra-state transfer, even though it was not a firearm under MA law. If that FFL trail doesn't exist, you can't say it was legally possessed by MA LTC holder on 8/1, and it's therefore a no-go regardless of pinning, welding, fixed magazine, and so on.

 

[Golddiggie]

I can see your point on this. It’s the whole reason I am not living in Utah right now. I like beer too much and their alcohol laws suck.

I don't remember what the home brewing laws are like in Utah... Never really was an issue for me since I don't recall seeing any relevant IT roles in Utah (at least for the past decade). Even then, I'd rather move to Utah than the PRM (without doing any other checking at least).

 

[40 Creedmoor fan]

As a single guy in my late 20s with a job offer that would provide a comfortable living, despite the huge jump up in living expenses. I hear Boston is full of single educated fit ladies is it true? Time to look up some hot yoga spots as well.

Ehh, you do realize that you’re moving to “woke/BLM/MeToo central”? The women here, regardless of how fit they are, are the crazy Karen kind. A good woman is hard to find here.