Moving to MA with ARs

I don't remember what the home brewing laws are like in Utah... Never really was an issue for me since I don't recall seeing any relevant IT roles in Utah (at least for the past decade). Even then, I'd rather move to Utah than the PRM (without doing any other checking at least).
A thousand percent. I’d move to Utah and give up drinking altogether before moving to MA. I would not under any circumstance ever in a million years move to MA. I would honestly try to get into one of those assisted suicide programs before I moved to MA. I really would.
 
Criminal risk? For what? What crime? And unless there is a fire, do you really think a storage company would take you to court? What damage would you have done to them? You can't sue someone unless you can show that you have been harmed. If you brought ammunition in to a storage unit in unmarked boxes, how would they know, and what damage would you have caused?
Not from the storage company. For example, if your unit got broken into, like mine did. I only had empty rifle cases in there and the police started asking questions.
If had firearms stolen from the unit, I'm not expecting I'd be treated like a victim of a crime. I'm expecting to be treated like a criminal for improper storage in these parts, and I may end up court spending time and money defending myself. That is a risk I'm not interested in.
 
As a single guy in my late 20s with a job offer that would provide a comfortable living, despite the huge jump up in living expenses. I hear Boston is full of single educated fit ladies is it true? Time to look up some hot yoga spots as well.
Use your other head to think.

Boston is full of single, "educated" liberal whack job ladies. Before you pack your wagon and move, go there and talk to some of them, it might change your mind.
 
Not from the storage company. For example, if your unit got broken into, like mine did. I only had empty rifle cases in there and the police started asking questions.
If had firearms stolen from the unit, I'm not expecting I'd be treated like a victim of a crime. I'm expecting to be treated like a criminal for improper storage in these parts, and I may end up court spending time and money defending myself. That is a risk I'm not interested in.
If the storage unit itself was locked up and the guns inside were locked in containers then what crime was committed? None.

The fact that you breached your contract with the storage company is a civil matter between you and them and not a crime.
 
A lot of don't take legal advice from cops.

Don't take legal advice from an internet forum as well. Get some real legal advice.

Welcome to MA, hope the new job works out for you.
It's a fine point lost on many.

Collect info from ANY source, but consider the source and then confirm with your own research.

A cop is going to bias his comments towards "toe that LINE, Subject!"

The clowns on this site will tell you it's ALL legal cuz 2a. (And they/we aren't wrong, but that's another thread)

OP should have enough info now to find the relevant law on Mass .gov website to confirm and interpret.

And, OP, if you have any worries at all left over, spend a couple hundred bucks for a legal consult with one of the actual-legit-real-life lawyers that skulk these threads or look into one of the better known gun lawyers in the area. They will be able to give you advice that you can actually trust.
 
Not from the storage company. For example, if your unit got broken into, like mine did. I only had empty rifle cases in there and the police started asking questions.
If had firearms stolen from the unit, I'm not expecting I'd be treated like a victim of a crime. I'm expecting to be treated like a criminal for improper storage in these parts, and I may end up court spending time and money defending myself. That is a risk I'm not interested in.
Which is part of why I said to get an actual safe for the pews in the storage unit. Not just inside gun cases. Also, 'improper storage' is a thing in the PRM, NOT inside NH. Which is another reason I posted to get a storage unit in NH, not the PRM.

Unloaded, and locked up (inside a safe especially) should make this a null issue all around.

The OP can put any pews inside such a storage unit (with safe) and NOT have to deal with the tardism inside the PRM for a while. Join a range/club in NH and you really don't need to worry. Or get a friend that has his own range in NH.

Personally, none of my pews will go into the PRM at any point. I don't have a permission slip for the state to bring anything into it. Which is why I don't even look to buy any from people in the PRM. Well, unless they're willing to do the deal at a NH FFL that is.
 
As a single guy in my late 20s with a job offer that would provide a comfortable living, despite the huge jump up in living expenses. I hear Boston is full of single educated fit ladies is it true? Time to look up some hot yoga spots as well.

You heard right about the ladies of Boston, but 99.999% of them are so far around the bend they can't see the bend from where they're at. (b*****s be crazy)
 
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If someone can put NES near the tuna and OP screen name near the boat, that would be cool.

K?thxbye
 
++Another move to NH and commute, even into Boston.
If you care the tiniest whit about 2A, don't move here.

If someone really cared about the 2A, would they call the cops and ask for advice on the 2A?

if so, this person would also have a TBL sticker AND a Gadsen flag on their car.
 
If not having pot stores and worse-than-MA tint laws is the worst NH can come up with, BFD. [rofl]
Haha I moved to Maine so I can hug MuH assault weapons and have banana clips as long as I want but at the cost of abysmal healthcare. I swear dental doesn't exist in this state and I'm surprised more Mainers don't have grills like Brits.
 
I wasn't aware freedom has restrictions, tell me more about freedom!

There is no panacea. There are no places on the face of the earth that don't have restrictions on freedom, at least not without some attendant tradeoff. (Like Somalia is probably pretty free, as long as you have enough force to maintain that). Years ago we had the best balance but most people are NPC faggots and cuddle authority too much, so you get what you get, you just have to pick places that suck less when you can.
 
If the storage unit itself was locked up and the guns inside were locked in containers then what crime was committed? None.

The fact that you breached your contract with the storage company is a civil matter between you and them and not a crime.
I agree it's not a crime, but that is not the essence of the risk I'm calculating. The risk is being accused of a crime and having to defend myself against the talented and fair individuals that work in the courts of Norfolk County. And generally speaking theft in itself is the biggest risk, public storage units are not secure. I learned for myself this very recently.
 
Sure, that's arguable, but there's a big caveat. The OP's rifles existed as such on some FLL's books, be it manufacturer or reseller. As a free state AR, it would have needed to have been transferred by an FFL to a MA LTC holder to meet the federal requirements for intra-state transfer, even though it was not a firearm under MA law. If that FFL trail doesn't exist, you can't say it was legally possessed by MA LTC holder on 8/1, and it's therefore a no-go regardless of pinning, welding, fixed magazine, and so on.

Not true. There's nothing in Mass. law that says the gun has to be OWNED by a Mass. resident. It only says that it has to have been POSSESSED by someone with a resident LTC. Nothing about registered by the LTC holder. Just possessed. There are many legal ways for that to happen. e.g.: It's 100% legal to loan a gun across state lines for sporting purposes (like a match)

Obviously, you're right that a bunch of circumstantial evidence would make it hard to defend/support the above claimed scenario.

My point is that an FFL doesn't have to be involved.


Collect info from ANY source, but consider the source and then confirm with your own research.

Always. ++.

A cop is going to bias his comments towards "toe that LINE, Subject!"

Not always. Sometimes they'll misrepresent the law in the other way, "you've got a LTC, so you can have high-caps" with no regard for the age of them.

The takeaway is: Cops DO NOT KNOW. They're not universally jack-booted thugs, but they're almost universally poorly informed on the actual law. I was setting up to teach a class the other month and a cop came in to ask about something. He was asking me questions about gun law. He wasn't trying to screw anyone, or make anyone a subject of the king; he just didn't know.
 
I agree it's not a crime, but that is not the essence of the risk I'm calculating. The risk is being accused of a crime and having to defend myself against the talented and fair individuals that work in the courts of Norfolk County. And generally speaking theft in itself is the biggest risk, public storage units are not secure. I learned for myself this very recently.
WHAT CRIME COULD YOU BE ACCUSED OF?

Again, if the storage unit was locked and your guns inside were in locked containers, then you would have been in accordance with the law and there would have been no evidence to the contrary. The fact that you violated your contract with the storage unit is not a crime. There is no law that says "you can't store guns in a storage unit that doesn't allow guns."

MA laws are terrible. Some DAs are terrible. But you are making stuff up.
 
I'm expecting to be treated like a criminal for improper storage in these parts, and I may end up court spending time and money defending myself. That is a risk I'm not interested in.

There is no criminal liability/risk there if you were following safe storage laws, no different than if the same guns were stolen out of your house that were locked up somewhere.

Just stop. People shit their pants enough without made up crap being spread around.

"the cops talked to me about it" doesnt mean you're going to get arrested for a crime that doesn't exist.
 
If not having pot stores and worse-than-MA tint laws is the worst NH can come up with, BFD. [rofl]
I know people in NH that smoke weed. I don't ask how they get it, or anything like that, and they don't tell me in return. It's been offered to me before, which I politely decline. We're friends after all, so I don't fault them for toking.

Growing up, one of our neighbors (a couple of houses over) grew weed among their tomato plants. My father would go over, from time to time, and get some when his back was really hurting (seriously screwed up back via injury). This was back in the early 80's, but no one on the street gave a F about it.

I keep thinking about getting a safe for my pews. It's been a rather low priority item since I don't NEED to have one. I have my 'gun closet' right now, which works just fine. No crotch goblins running around to worry about (or anyone else for that matter). My main hesitation point for getting the safe is where the F I'd put it. If I got one large enough to hold everything (with at least a bit of expansion room) I'd be hard pressed to get it into position. The other option would be to get two smaller units, which increases the footprint.

As just posted by rep308... The OP COULD leave their pews inside PA for the near term. Get his LTC, then 10 round mags for any pistol he wants to bring into the PRM. Bring those items into the state, and not worry. Of course, since he already mentioned NOT having a vehicle, that could present logistical issues. I can't imagine NOT having a vehicle.
 
There is no panacea. There are no places on the face of the earth that don't have restrictions on freedom, at least not without some attendant tradeoff. (Like Somalia is probably pretty free, as long as you have enough force to maintain that). Years ago we had the best balance but most people are NPC faggots and cuddle authority too much, so you get what you get, you just have to pick places that suck less when you can.
Freedom is an illusion

My pointy was that a LOT of people here think NH is all about freedom, yet you can't smoke a plant or have too dark of a tint.

But you can have bayo lugs and suppressors, so those other freedoms don't matter!

Well, those other freedoms DO matter to some people, so to some NH isn't exactly the bastion of freedom that people make it out to be..

How many of those people masturbate to freedom in NH, yet travel and work and collect a check from a business based in communist MA everyday?

.
 
You heard right about the ladies of Boston, but 99.999% of them are so far around the bend they can't see the bend from where they're at. (b*****s be crazy)
I have said to anyone who cares to listen (this includes my wife and daughter) that Rule #1 is "That bitch is crazy." I have added the statement (for family members) that I realize it's not the case for every woman, but if you act as though it is (including family members), your life will be much easier.

Hot divorcee at the gym who said hi? That bitch is crazy. Talk to at your own risk.
Cashier who discounts every purchase you make at Dunks even though you're not 60? That bitch is crazy. Smile every time you see her, but that's it.
Your wife isn't saying much over dinner? That bitch is crazy. Handle with care.

Will you miss all sorts of interesting situations? Sure. But you won't get your life incinerated by dealing with a bunny boiler.
 
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