Police respond to report of shooting at pro-Israeli protest in Newton

[MAGA99]

Maybe next time (if he lives so long) he'll keep his violent leftist tendencies under control and his stupid yap shut and walk on by.

I have ZERO sympathy for people like him who do shit like he did. Let it be a lesson to all those like him who think they are going to cow people into silence and inaction.

Terrorism charges in order for the commie!

 

[buckhunter]

Dump the moron off in Palestine see the real truth of what he is supporting! Another snowflake down!

 

[Toast]

So if you are in the street and someone pushes you and you fall backwards to the ground, you consider yourself authorized to shoot the guy because you could have hit your head on a curb?

Is he just standing there and I haven't hit my head? Probably not.

Did he hit me from behind without provocation or warning and I am now face down with him on my back trying to get his arm around my neck? Yes, without question.

 

[Dadstoys]

The Vet showed up to a heated protest, knowing damn well things could get spicy real quick.

He chose to be there, he also chose to carry a gun to a protest.

I do my best to avoid situations where the need to carry is not an option, but somewhat mandatory.

Pal is guilty of assault, Vet is guilty of ADW if the Pal lives.

Bottom line is if you can't protect yourself without a gun, it might be a good idea to NOT put yourself in that situation.

Is that the "She shouldn't have worn a short skirt if she didn't want to get raped" line of reasoning ?
I carry a blade more than a gun .
I you jump me with a flying tackle from behind you're most likely going to end up gutted like a fish.
You can cry about it being a fair fight later if you make it.
Feel free to call me a pussy while your trying to hold in your intestines .

 

[Dadstoys]

It doesnt sound odd for a MA court to drop a charge in a case like this the very next day? Did the DA have an intern filing charges yesterday?

I would say that if that video of what really happened had not come out ,the Vet would have been f*cked with a football bat.
There would have been some elaborate story about how he stalked and tried to murder some poor Pali who was just walking down the street minding his own business.
Typical unhinged gun owner looking to shoot people for no reason.
Thank god for cell phone video.

 

[Dench]

You don't know what physical limitations or prior injuries he has. Don't make broad assumptions.

While possibly true the core truth of people fighting each other out in the wild is usually everyone involved has no actual fighting skills.

But thats today's ozempic society. Why put the work in when theres a short cut?

 

[paul73]

There are different levels of finding out...some are a "stomped like a narc at a biker rally" level...others are "shot to the face" level. I say for the most part because some cheer the nuclear option at any f*** off infraction.

So if you are in the street and someone pushes you and you fall backwards to the ground, you consider yourself authorized to shoot the guy because you could have hit your head on a curb?


Amending to clarify and add context...I am not talking about a Reginald Denny scenario where you are alone in a sea of hostiles...but like here...you and your homies out protesting and some chucklef**k rushes you.

Finally some DA aids made it here.
Yes when someone shoves you and you fall down, the correct behavior is to crawl towards pusher on all 4, kiss his boot and apologize profusely for you being so clumsy.

 

[Dench]

But this attack? I’m sorry, I don’t see it as rising to the level of death or grave bodily injury.

I really do hope that the shooter is found not guilty, but I think it will be an uphill fight for him and the legal fight is likely to ruin his life.

It'll be a tough battle.

 

[pastera]

If we wasn't there he wouldn't have had to do a thing

Instead of enjoying life, he is broke and begging for money while getting sued.

And this shit right here is why we are in the position we are in folks

Give up your liberty to appease the left.

I have the God given right to peaceful protest, especially political protest.

If I'm attacked for that protest, no matter how heated the speech, I have not given anyone liberty to assault me.

And if they do, I retain my God given right to self defense.

And I will exercise my rights to the full extent of our constitutional limits.

 

[BigTimber]

So if you are in the street and someone pushes you and you fall backwards to the ground, you consider yourself authorized to shoot the guy because you could have hit your head on a curb?

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I friend of mine was pushed out of the blue by some guy in Boston just after we graduated high school in the early 90s. He Hit his head somewhere around his brain stem on the curb. We buried him two weeks later. Just last year one of these Dumbocrat fags hit a old timer with a bullhorn in the exact same scenario as what we just saw in Newton. He fell back hit his head and died. So yeah FAFO. Not guilty

 

[pastera]

NO

f*** around and find out. No f*** around, no find out. It’s that easy.

There are situations where pepper spray can be safely deployed to de-escalate before deadly force is required
And I don't care how much you like hot sauce on your scrambled eggs, it's a damn good FAFO lesson in your eyes.

 

[Dadstoys]

For the he was unarmed and no threat derpsters.
A healthy young state police cadet wearing head gear just died from a blow to the head at boxing practice.

 

[Dench]

For the he was unarmed and no threat derpsters.
A health young state police cadet wearing head gear just died from a blow to the head at boxing practice.

Yeah i saw that. I suspect theres a lot more to that story.

I ironically write this while im at muay thai. Pretty sure no ones leaving class in an ambulance today.

 

[jkelly1229]

If we wasn't there he wouldn't have had to do a thing

Instead of enjoying life, he is broke and begging for money while getting sued.

Sure and if they weren't burning down his city he wouldn't have had to be there

 

[MGnoob]

The best way to survive a deadly force encounter is to not be there.

View: https://youtu.be/2oYiEbrMJGw?si=URmTLLmXPNMwh5HZ

 

[headednorth]

A health young state police cadet wearing head gear just died from a blow to the head at boxing practice.

 

[Uzi2]

And this shit right here is why we are in the position we are in folks

Give up your liberty to appease the left.

I have the God given right to peaceful protest, especially political protest.

If I'm attacked for that protest, no matter how heated the speech, I have not given anyone liberty to assault me.

And if they do, I retain my God given right to self defense.

And I will exercise my rights to the full extent of our constitutional limits.

AhhhhhYup!

 

[paul73]

View: https://youtu.be/2oYiEbrMJGw?si=URmTLLmXPNMwh5HZ

In MA he will be jailed too as trained boxer or martial artist defense against assault will be classified as an assault with a deadly weapons.

The perverse logic of punishing people for trying to defend themselves is the issue.

 

[MGnoob]

In MA he will be jailed too as trained boxer or martial artist defense against assault will be classified as an assault with a deadly weapons.

The perverse logic of punishing people for trying to defend themselves is the issue.

I guess that’s the beauty of being broke. You have nothing left to lose and aren’t technically your possessions… would you rather get f***ing assaulted possibly die or worse walking around like Gabby Gifford’s? I think I’d prefer prison…. A bit looked at how old this kid was if he’s under 21 or 24 I think his parents should have to pay for everything.

All because of “free Palestine“ how about we stop arming both sides and let them just fight the it f*** out… then we kill whoever wins

 

[Alex9661]

Dump the moron off in Palestine see the real truth of what he is supporting! Another snowflake down!

Excellent idea, but first we need to find out where that mythical country of Palestine is.

 

[MAGA99]

There are situations where pepper spray can be safely deployed to de-escalate before deadly force is required
And I don't care how much you like hot sauce on your scrambled eggs, it's a damn good FAFO lesson in your eyes.

Agreed.

The situation at hand was not one of those situations.

 

[dcac01]

And this all happened without that gun shop opening in Newton. Heaven's to Betsy.

Ironically this happened right across the street from where it was trying to open.

 

[dcac01]

Surprised no one jumped in with "What's his NES screenname?".

 

[Grendizer138]

It’s cute that some of you guys are using the “BuT MUh RIghTZ” argument. It’s like you’re not paying attention.

Yes, you have the God-given right to preserve your life; but do you feel confident enough the court will agree you needed to shoot someone and are you willing to risk jail time and possibly bankruptcy?

 

[dcac01]

So you are saying that there has not been one attack/violence on a pro Israel protestor by a pro Pali protestor at any of these tard fest gatherings held by either side, ever?

With regards to this particular group of pro Israel protestors, who seem to travel around MA, I have not heard of anything happening at any of their activities over the past year.

 

[safetyfirst2125]

We have a duty to retreat law in MA?

MA statute does not explicitly mention a “duty to retreat.” In Massachusetts, the duty to retreat is established through case law rather than statutory law.

This principle has been upheld in various court decisions. For example:

• Commonwealth v. Ware, 438 Mass. 242 (2002): The court affirmed that a person must exhaust all reasonable means of retreat before resorting to deadly force, unless they are in their own home.
• Commonwealth v. Benoit, 452 Mass. 212 (2008): The ruling reinforced that the duty to retreat does not apply when an individual is inside their own dwelling, aligning with the “castle doctrine.”

Now, in this case whether he could have retested is hindered by the fact the attacker and he were on other sides of the street, so conceivably he could have run away. And the fact that he participated in the escalation.

In MA I think he’s screwed.

 

[MAGA99]

Is that the "She shouldn't have worn a short skirt if she didn't want to get raped" line of reasoning ?
I carry a blade more than a gun .
I you jump me with a flying tackle from behind you're most likely going to end up gutted like a fish.
You can cry about it being a fair fight later if you make it.
Feel free to call me a pussy while your trying to hold in your intestines .

There’s no such thing as a fair fight. If you find yourself in a fair fight, you’ve already lost.

 

[MAGA99]

I would say that if that video of what really happened had not come out ,the Vet would have been f*cked with a football bat.
There would have been some elaborate story about how he stalked and tried to murder some poor Pali who was just walking down the street minding his own business.
Typical unhinged gun owner looking to shoot people for no reason.
Thank god for cell phone video.

A football bat?!?!!!! Yikes!!!

 

[dcac01]

It's also possible the discharge was not intentional (Not the same as accidental, because ponytail ultimately caused the action). But being taken to the ground violently may have dislodged his weapon from its holster - retention is not perfect - and he was desperately trying to reestablish control while simultaneously fighting. The first thing that happened after the shot was he put the pistol out of reach and asked someone else to pick it up.

 

[JRLB]

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