Police respond to report of shooting at pro-Israeli protest in Newton

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“Police arrested Hayes and charged him with assault and battery with a dangerous weapon and violation of a constitutional right causing injury, according to Ryan. He is expected to be arraigned in Newton District Court on Friday.“
 
Mtn_Guy said:
Hard to retreat when the guy tackles you.

That said, was there a clear threat of death and grave bodily harm?
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Looked to me like he got jumped with his back to the guy.

Also didn't look like he was a young guy being tackled. Hit your head off the sidewalk while a 100lb soy boy jumps on your back I would argue could cause grave harm. But we do live in the Peoples Republic of MA so who knows?
 
Junior314 said:
Looked to me like he got jumped with his back to the guy.

Also didn't look like he was a young guy being tackled. Hit your head off the sidewalk while a 100lb soy boy jumps on your back I would argue could cause grave harm. But we do live in the Peoples Republic of MA so who knows?
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He’s 47 but did look older than that.
 
DJBrad said:
The story was just updated in the original post:


“Police arrested Hayes and charged him with assault and battery with a dangerous weapon and violation of a constitutional right causing injury, according to Ryan. He is expected to be arraigned in Newton District Court on Friday.“
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What the hell does that even mean? What constitutional right did the shooter violate?
 
william_munny said:
What the hell does that even mean? What constitutional right did the shooter violate?
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This could just be my speculation, but looking at the law it seems they have added this charge on so that the guy who was shot has recourse to file a civil lawsuit against the gun owner.


Title II Chaper 12

Section 11I. Any person whose exercise or enjoyment of rights secured by the constitution or laws of the United States, or of rights secured by the constitution or laws of the commonwealth, has been interfered with, or attempted to be interfered with, as described in section 11H, may institute and prosecute in his own name and on his own behalf a civil action for injunctive and other appropriate equitable relief as provided for in said section, including the award of compensatory money damages. Any aggrieved person or persons who prevail in an action authorized by this section shall be entitled to an award of the costs of the litigation and reasonable attorneys' fees in an amount to be fixed by the court.“


Eta: actually this may be incorrect as this section applies to those acting under the color of law or without proper policing.
 
DJBrad said:
This could just be my speculation, but looking at the law it seems they have added this charge on so that the guy who was shot has recourse to file a civil lawsuit against the gun owner.


Title II Chaper 12

Section 11I. Any person whose exercise or enjoyment of rights secured by the constitution or laws of the United States, or of rights secured by the constitution or laws of the commonwealth, has been interfered with, or attempted to be interfered with, as described in section 11H, may institute and prosecute in his own name and on his own behalf a civil action for injunctive and other appropriate equitable relief as provided for in said section, including the award of compensatory money damages. Any aggrieved person or persons who prevail in an action authorized by this section shall be entitled to an award of the costs of the litigation and reasonable attorneys' fees in an amount to be fixed by the court.“
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So that reads like the shooter's constitutional rights to enjoy free assembly was interfered with, not the ponytail runner.
 
These rabid animals need to start popping up in dumpsters and back alleys with a piece of ham stuck in their mouths. Way to go Nazi Massachusetts. Punish the poor soul who defends himself and let the animals run free just like Germany did in WW2. I can only hope our so called leaders get brutally beaten by these animals.
 
VigilantesLiberi said:
But seriously, my instructor talked about this in the class, and he said it was a gray area. I probably just wasn't listening, but I thought he said the castle doctrine does cover our vehicles.
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No, it isn't a castle doctrine, it is an "affirmative defense" and 278-8A only applies within the 4 walls of the house, not anywhere else. That case happened in Sharon, MA and the arresting officer (chief) was a personal friend of mine who gave me the back story on the shooting that led to that law being passed.

DJBrad said:
“Police arrested Hayes and charged him with assault and battery with a dangerous weapon and violation of a constitutional right causing injury, according to Ryan. He is expected to be arraigned in Newton District Court on Friday.“
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Newton is as liberal as they come. Fully expect this victim to be persecuted to the n-th degree in Middlesex District Court and likely found guilty by any jury they can put together. Sad state of affairs.
 
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According to the story the attacker has life threatening injuries. If he dies the charge will be murder.

The civil rights charge is based on the attackers statements before he charged across the street.

Massachusetts logic at work.
 
Mtn_Guy said:
Hard to retreat when the guy tackles you.

That said, was there a clear threat of death and grave bodily harm?
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A Pro-Hamas dude running straight at Pro-Israel man to make physical contact and slamming his body/head to the ground? That most certainly could result in death or serious bodily harm. Hopefully he has some sort of legal coverage or someone starts a legal fund for him, I'll gladly chip in.
 
The likelihood that someone here knows the real victim in the incident is high.

That was a clean shoot. Ponytail was clearly the aggressor and as previously mentioned could have slammed his head on the ground and it would have lights out. The other people trying to help only made shit worse.

I’d be suing the PD for compensatory damages over this.
 
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