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Recommendations for Tactical / Home Defense 12 ga Shotgun Ammo?
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Maybe he can't, but many people can.FF the following to the 3 minute mark where he shoots 4 rounds in 1.42 sec. Pump-gun
He's not THAT fast a shooter, and given his split times, a fifth round would have been a total of 1.76 or so.
I have a friend that only shoots skeet with a pump. When others witness how fast he can work that action, I joke "That is the nice thing about a pump gun, you don't have to wait for the gas to cycle your action."
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It's not.
Yet.... there's plenty of turkatrons that work just fine.
And yes.... a lot of them are junk or throwaways too.... but this ancient fudd bullshit about semis not being reliable is just retarded. It's grounded in the fagottry of the fudds buying a box ww valpak 1200fps birdshot and having it not work in the semi when the gun was never made for that shit to begin with.
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As important as the load you are using is your defensive plan. If you sleep on a second story, just post up at the top of the stairs and then all your misses will be going into the basement and not a threat to any neighbors.
If you are hunting through the house for Pookey and Ray-Ray, you may wind up shooting them when your wife is in the background. This can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on the wife.
If you are hunting through the house for Pookey and Ray-Ray, you may wind up shooting them when your wife is in the background. This can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on the wife.
According to them (end of page) its legal in all 50 states
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Just did a little searching.
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Found this:
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Can't find the #4 buck video at the moment. Will look tonight or something. Most likely in the TS thread.
This might have been it:
Shotgun for coyote
Just wondering if someone would maybe like to make up some loads for me. This would be: 12 gauge 2 3/4 inch shells high brass lead shot size: "FF", "F", "T", "BBB", "BB" maximum powder for above The only coyote stuff I find anywhere is 3 inch.
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I personally use Remington 2 3/4" with #4 buck. Delivered by my Ithaca 37.
#4 is great at shorter distances like inside your house or just outside your door. If the threat is further away than that, it is probably not a threat or i am grabbing a different firearm.
As for the Ithaca choice? It is what i have and it works. As for effectiveness in real life, i have no experience. Just patterning at the range and LARPing in my back yard.
#4 is great at shorter distances like inside your house or just outside your door. If the threat is further away than that, it is probably not a threat or i am grabbing a different firearm.
As for the Ithaca choice? It is what i have and it works. As for effectiveness in real life, i have no experience. Just patterning at the range and LARPing in my back yard.
Yeah, 10 yards, should all be center mass, but scattered unless something else is missing in this picture. Maybe a zero choke shotgun?
I want to say when we did the shotgun demonstration, it was around 20 yards when we got significant pellets off center mass. I want to say even at 15 we were putting every pellet somewhere on a target. I also seem to remember we ran full chokes though.
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An ounce and a half of lead, propelled at 13-1500 feet per second, would drop a man in his tracks even if he was wearing a vest (no it wouldn’t penetrate). It’ll absolutely pulverize drywall but it won’t penetrate exterior walls. At home defense ranges, it’s not going to pattern much larger than a saucer. It’s a decent choice for home defense.
Agnotology
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Anyone have any experience with the shorty buckshot shells? Something like this
www.federalpremium.com
Just don't load more than 5+1 in a semi.
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Just don't load more than 5+1 in a semi.
TG Pioneer
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It most certainly is the weight of the load as well as the kinetic energy imparted into the target that will cause hydrostatic shock. Overpenetration is wasted energy. Again we’re talking about home defense distances.
“Do more research” was dismissive and indicates that your opinion is absolutely correct and there’s nothing else worth discussing from your perspective. I stand humbled in the face of such expertise.
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dingbat
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I roll my own 12 pellets of #1 Buck in high brass. You can do 9 pellets for a low recoil load.
Haven’t bothered with the shotgun though since moving out of town.
Rifle and handgun are what is kept in reach and ready to go.
1. Unless you dumped wax in the load, you need to consider each shot separately, not their combined mass. Each pellet is separately hitting the target and needs to be separately calculated for penetration. Mass, velocity, and diameter/sectional density all need to be considered for each individual pellet.
2. Hydrostatic shock isn’t a thing. When bullets transfer energy into tissue, they do create temporary cavities as the tissue stretches. Whether any of that cavity does damage or becomes permanent depends on whether that particular tissue’s elastic limit has been exceeded. This limit can be lowered through lacerations caused by fragmentation. And the more energy transferred, the bigger the temporary cavity. But most tissues can take a lot of stretch.
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