Texas is pro gun but……

[Bob P]

Are you sure you're not me? I got mine in part because it allows me to carry in SC. As you probably know, you can only get a non resident permit there if you live in a contiguous state or own property in SC.

My son and his family live just across the line from Charlotte, NC. It used to be a PITA to bring a gun there because what was the point if I couldn't carry. Constitutional Carry is legal there, but it's like Texas where having a LTC allows you to carry places you can't without a license.

Grands in Greenville. Great area!

 

[Garys]

Ours are up in Lancaster County. Going there end of April - early May to referee them while the parents are on vacation for a few days.

Grands in Greenville. Great area!

 

[KBCraig]

You can’t sit at the bar if you’re carrying.

False

You can’t carry in an establishment that makes more than 51% of its income from the sale of alcohol

True

and you can’t carry if you’ve had any alcohol at all to drink.

False

 

[KBCraig]

BTW, do you know about Texas3006.com - Your 30.06 & 30.07 Information Resource

I'm a regular on the forum there. It's small and not very active, but activity depends mostly on how much the infamous Chas. Cotton has been in the news for enabling WLP's grift.

 

[Qwikdraw45]

I believe one of these two locations was Scottsdale Arizona. They got some kind of fancy gun club.

I don’t care for the people I prefer the desert

Ah, Snottsdale...errr, Scottsdale Gun Club. It was a nice place to shoot. Just not close enough to make the trip very often.

As to NH, look to your west at Vermont. Everything they do will be coming down Route 89 faster than you can believe.

And Maine, as well. We are surrounded, and everyday is a fight to keep it out.

 

[Stape]

Texas has never been pro-gun. Texans just like puffing up their image that way, because people assume it's true.

From 1875 until January 1, 1996, it was illegal to have a handgun "on or about your person" in Texas. Period. Open, concealed, in a case or bag, whatever. There were some exceptions, like being en route to a "sporting activity" that "normally requires use of a handgun". There was the infamous "on a journey" exception, which had no statutory or statewide case law definition.

Enforcement was all over the place, because the vagueness was intentional. "Those people" got busted when "the right people" wouldn't. It took equal enforcement of the law (or the perceived risk of equal enforcement) for Texas to finally legalize any carry at all.

I don't know that it was "it took equal enforcement of the law" but the Lubys shooting was the biggest push for TX CC

 

[cams]

For Texas (op state) you can’t carry if you’ve had any alcohol at all to drink.

Wrong. It’s 0.08 BAC while carrying in TX.

 

[drgrant]

Your cool.......Im sure its done down here all the time too with CC.

I follow my Dad's teaching and pretty much every other teaching that guns and booze don't mix well.

The problem comes when you have to use it....in any state........you think in MA if your drunk with a pistol and use it they aren't going to absolutely screw you?

Ill argue they find you drunk at a bar with a pistol on your hip even if you don't use it.....MA cops will think of something I'm sure......

Good luck with that.....

Not everyone here lives in mass or cares

 

[Bob P]

False


True


False

The TRA recommends not sitting at the bar while carrying even if the facility isn’t a 51% as the statute is squishy on that - like the new abortion of a gun law MA passed. YMMV

 

[Mark from ?]

I don't agree with the state having limitations on carrying at bars or anything either, that's not what Im saying.
And Im not saying that a beer or two while carrying is anything big deal either same as driving.

But if your gonna say drunk carrying, shooting or hunting is a good thing...... Well we can respectfully disagree and leave it at that, everything I've
been taught about firearm safety is the opposite, and seen some damn stupid ass shit when people are drunk...never mind drunk with a firearm.

Shoot first, beers after....works for me......

If its gay for you and you like to get hammered while shooting or carrying that's good for you.

 

[KBCraig]

I don't know that it was "it took equal enforcement of the law" but the Lubys shooting was the biggest push for TX CC

Dr. Suzanna Hupp was elected to the Texas House on that; her parents were killed there while she was having lunch with them.

She testified that she had left her .38 revolver in her glove box because of fear that she would lose her chiropractor license if she was caught carrying. But, the law in Texas at that time was the same for carrying on your body or accessible anywhere in your car ("Unlawfully Carrying a Weapon", Penal Code 46.02). As a professional surburban white woman she was probably pretty safe, but even she worried about the law being enforced against her.

 

[KBCraig]

Wrong. It’s 0.08 BAC while carrying in TX.

I haven't kept up with changes in the last decade, but when I moved from TX in 2012, there was no BAC standard for carrying while intoxicated. It was simply "intoxicated", by the same standard as public intoxication (which had no BAC standard, merely the officer's judgment that the person was impaired to a degree that made them a danger to themselves or others. Carrying while DWI would be an automatic charge, but just carrying while not driving would be a judgment call.

I just checked the statutes. Doesn't look like they've changed.

Texas Penal Code 46.02 "UNLAWFULLY CARRYING WEAPONS"
(a-6) A person commits an offense if the person:
(1) carries a handgun while the person is intoxicated; and
(2) is not:
(A) on the person's own property or property under the person's control or on private property with the consent of the owner of the property; or
(B) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle or watercraft:
(i) that is owned by the person or under the person's control; or
(ii) with the consent of the owner or operator of the vehicle or watercraft.

 

[cams]

I just checked the statutes. Doesn't look like they've changed.

Texas Penal Code 46.02 "UNLAWFULLY CARRYING WEAPONS"
(a-6) A person commits an offense if the person:
(1) carries a handgun while the person is intoxicated; and
(2) is not:
(A) on the person's own property or property under the person's control or on private property with the consent of the owner of the property; or
(B) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle or watercraft:
(i) that is owned by the person or under the person's control; or
(ii) with the consent of the owner or operator of the vehicle or watercraft.

46.035(d) goes into more detail with the BAC. Just another way to hem someone up by adding a breath test if you’re not an obvious PC.