The Conference Committee has sent official language out - h.4885

[whatluck]

there is life outside the PRM. y'all come.

this

 

[Echo 225]

Hopefully, we can add voter registration card with every LTC renewal and new application in Massachusetts just like Liz Warren‘s daughter sued to get a voter registration in every welfare application a few years back

 

[Woodsloafer]

there is life outside the PRM. y'all come.

If you're not a pants shitter there is life here as well. Plus, guns are not my life, my family and friends are, and I have a lot of these people here.

 

[drgrant]

If you're not a pants shitter there is life here as well. Plus, guns are not my life, my family and friends are, and I have a lot of these people here.

Besides the gun BS is, rather quickly, not even going to be the shit frosting on the turd cake about the worst things in this state.

 

[Kurtz]

I just saw on the news the House is voting on it tomorrow.

 

[SS1]

Hopefully, we can add voter registration card with every LTC renewal and new application in Massachusetts just like Liz Warren‘s daughter sued to get a voter registration in every welfare application a few years back

Maybe

Report: More Than 10 Million Gun Owners/Hunters Not Registered to Vote

Over ten million gun owners and hunters are not registered to vote, and these are voters the Republicans need in order to win in November.

www.breitbart.com

 

[p.tice]

So here's a situation. I have a machine gun incoming from out of state. Already paid for, just waiting for ATF approval. Is the "assault style weapons" definition gunna F me?

 

[chris_1001]

So here's a situation. I have a machine gun incoming from out of state. Already paid for, just waiting for ATF approval. Is the "assault style weapons" definition gunna F me?

Not an official response to your question.

BUT, a “select fire automatic” rifle IS the literal definition of an (cough) “Assault Weapon”

Semi automatic versions are not.

Good luck, hope you get it soon!!

 

[Veesionary]

So today is the effective date, and any purchases as of today are blessed?

No.

 

[chris_1001]

So today is the effective date, and any purchases as of today are blessed?

7/31/2024

This appears to be the date.

 

[MAJoe]

7/31/2024

This appears to be the date.

8/1/24. Says as of not before.

 

[p.tice]

Not an official response to your question.

BUT, a “select fire automatic” rifle IS the literal definition of an (cough) “Assault Weapon”

Semi automatic versions are not.

Good luck, hope you get it soon!!

Kind of ironic isn’t it

 

[chris_1001]

Kind of ironic isn’t it

Welcome to MA political logic.

 

[GOAL]

The official text has been reported out of committee as H.4885.

Also, a formal House session has been called for tomorrow, where there was previously nothing on the calendar.

Bill H.4885

malegislature.gov

 

[chris_1001]

The official text has been reported out of committee as H.4885.

Also, a formal House session has been called for tomorrow, where there was previously nothing on the calendar.

Bill H.4885

malegislature.gov

Well, here we go.

We all knew this was coming. I hope you all stocked up.

 

[Woodsloafer]

Well, here we go.

We all knew this was coming. I hope you all stocked up.

Only 116 pages, looks like they went with the long version, glad the Republicans on the committee were looking out for us.

 

[MAJoe]

The official text has been reported out of committee as H.4885.

Also, a formal House session has been called for tomorrow, where there was previously nothing on the calendar.

Bill H.4885

malegislature.gov

Is it correct that no amendments will be discussed, it’s either yes/no vote?

 

[Thatguy66]

8/1/24. Says as of not before.

Curious where you guys are seeing 8/1/24. All I see is:

“provided further, that the firearm shall not be considered a copy or duplicate of a firearm identified in clauses (d) and (e) if sold, owned and registered prior to July 20, 2016”

 

[Horatio Alger Jr]

Curious where you guys are seeing 8/1/24. All I see is:

“provided further, that the firearm shall not be considered a copy or duplicate of a firearm identified in clauses (d) and (e) if sold, owned and registered prior to July 20, 2016”

I was wondering the same thing

 

[Woodsloafer]

Looks like no selling of ammo unless your are a dealer (licensed refers to dealer in this section):

"(e) Whoever not being licensed, as provided in section 122 or this section, sells ammunition within the commonwealth shall be punished by a fine of not less than $500 nor more than $1,000 dollars or by imprisonment for not less than 6 months nor more than 2 years."

 

[Marty McFly]

Looks like no selling of ammo unless your are a dealer.

I've always traded for items or cash anyway.
Bartered for cash

 

[MAJoe]

Curious where you guys are seeing 8/1/24. All I see is:

“provided further, that the firearm shall not be considered a copy or duplicate of a firearm identified in clauses (d) and (e) if sold, owned and registered prior to July 20, 2016”

(b) Subsection (a) shall not apply to an assault-style firearm lawfully possessed within the
commonwealth on August 1, 2024, by an owner in possession of a license to carry issued under
section 131 or by a holder of a license to sell under section 122; provided, that the assault-style
firearm shall be registered in accordance with section 121B and serialized in accordance with section 121C.

 

[p.tice]

Curious where you guys are seeing 8/1/24. All I see is:

“provided further, that the firearm shall not be considered a copy or duplicate of a firearm identified in clauses (d) and (e) if sold, owned and registered prior to July 20, 2016”

I was wondering the same thing

Page 73

 

[Horatio Alger Jr]

Page 73

Thank you

 

[StevieP]

If you're not a pants shitter there is life here as well. Plus, guns are not my life, my family and friends are, and I have a lot of these people here.

well, yeah. guns wasn't really even in the top ten reasons I moved away from so many family and friends. high cost of living. housing. taxes. crumbling infrastructure. I grew increasingly intolerant of winters. I like my quality of life here in coastal NC and don't ever see us moving back to New England. We visit a couple times a year and enjoy when people come visit us.

 

[Rockrivr1]

I just saw on the news the House is voting on it tomorrow.

The Senate though has not scheduled yet. Probably won’t be too long before that happens.

 

[Woodsloafer]

The Senate though has not scheduled yet. Probably won’t be too long before that happens.

Everything will be voted on and signed before the 8/1/24 date in the bill so that people have a few days to "get their things in order".

 

[DW357]

Good? Not much good here that I can see.

Agreed. Was sarcasm

 

[sig shooter]

So does this mean that everything that has been e-fa10 needs to be “registered” as well?

 

[milktree]

Not an official response to your question.

BUT, a “select fire automatic” rifle IS the literal definition of an (cough) “Assault Weapon”

Semi automatic versions are not.

Good luck, hope you get it soon!!

No, it's not. "assault weapon" is a made up term that means nothing outside the specific law that's using it. Every definition of "assault weapon" I've seen includes "semi-auto" To be an "assault weapon" it has to be made after Sept. 13th, 1994. Same gun made a day earlier can never be an "assault weapon". And a rifle that's an "assault weapon" in Mass. ceases to be one when moved to NH, because Mass. law has no authority in NH.

What you're thinking of is "assault rifle", which is a real thing with a real definition. "assault rifles" are not explicitly banned or regulated, they're regulated under "machine guns" or sometimes also "short barreled rifles"