The public schools suck thread.

45collector said:
I had a guy at a gun shop in western MA tell me that I could not buy the same hollowpoint rounds that are issued to the PD of the town that I live in. Ahahahaaaaa!!!!! What?!!

This comment came after I asked for a box of Federal .45acp HP's and the guy asked what town I lived in. When I explained that I lived on the Cape and was just visiting some friends in Holyoke, he said "better find out what the cops in your town carry before you go carrying the same rounds as them". What a chode.
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I'd like to call bull$hit on this one, but something tells me you're not lying [hmmm]
 
45collector said:
I had a guy at a gun shop in western MA tell me that I could not buy the same hollowpoint rounds that are issued to the PD of the town that I live in. Ahahahaaaaa!!!!! What?!!

This comment came after I asked for a box of Federal .45acp HP's and the guy asked what town I lived in. When I explained that I lived on the Cape and was just visiting some friends in Holyoke, he said "better find out what the cops in your town carry before you go carrying the same rounds as them". What a chode.
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Wow. [thinking] That's like a direct inversion of the common "ayoob glue fume foamer" type endless carping about "carrying the same brand of JHPs as your local PD uses". Right after they tell you about how awful a trigger job on a carry gun
is, and that you will be sent to hell if you have it done to the gun you carry.

-Mike
 
Not exactly carry advice, but I did have a shop owner telling me he would not carry any ammo the was marked "Law Enforcement" on the box.
 
Lauria said:
"Ladies don't carry guns." (Ladies also do not cross their legs, chew with their mouths open, drink beer, shout, climb trees, and punch boys. Ladies are very boring.)
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Guess I'm not a lady. I carry a gun, drink beer, climb trees and punch boys when I decide they need it (mostly my brothers) and occassionally shout.
 
Stratocaster1422 said:
Are you f***ing kidding me? [angry][angry2]

I guess my wife doing 10hrs per week of work at home, spending 2 weeks (unpaid) setting up her classroom in the summer, and dishing out $700/yr of our hard earned money because the district can't provide enough supplies is JUST like a lazy cop who won't go to the range.
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Don't teachers get a paycheck year round? (Not to dismiss her efforts and certainly dishing out money out of her own pocket is beyond pitiful that it's necessary in some districts.)
 
PennyPincher said:
Don't teachers get a paycheck year round? (Not to dismiss her efforts and certainly dishing out money out of her own pocket is beyond pitiful that it's necessary in some districts.)
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The teachers I've known have had the option of getting paid only during the school year, or getting paid year round. The total salary is the same, it just depends on how much handholding you want.
 
jar said:
The teachers I've known have had the option of getting paid only during the school year, or getting paid year round. The total salary is the same, it just depends on how much handholding you want.
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I've known a few that take the school year option and do various other jobs in the summer. That's what I would do. that and take a 2 week vacation. :)
 
PennyPincher said:
Don't teachers get a paycheck year round? (Not to dismiss her efforts and certainly dishing out money out of her own pocket is beyond pitiful that it's necessary in some districts.)
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I get paid to work 183 days a year. I get no paid time off. For convenience, I take my bi-weekly paycheck over 26 pay periods.

When I took two unpaid days to attend my son's BCT graduation, the withholding was calculated a 1/183rd of my annual salary. About 600 bucks for two days. It was not calculated at one day's pay per my bi-weekly paycheck.

So, let's be clear on this. I get paid for precisely 183 days of work per year.
 
45collector said:
I had a guy at a gun shop in western MA tell me that I could not buy the same hollowpoint rounds that are issued to the PD of the town that I live in. Ahahahaaaaa!!!!! What?!!

This comment came after I asked for a box of Federal .45acp HP's and the guy asked what town I lived in. When I explained that I lived on the Cape and was just visiting some friends in Holyoke, he said "better find out what the cops in your town carry before you go carrying the same rounds as them". What a chode.
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I've also had people assert that you couldn't own an M9/ Beretta 92, since it was military issue and therefore illegal for civilian ownership.
 
theGringo said:
I get paid to work 183 days a year. I get no paid time off. For convenience, I take my bi-weekly paycheck over 26 pay periods.

When I took two unpaid days to attend my son's BCT graduation, the withholding was calculated a 1/183rd of my annual salary. About 600 bucks for two days. It was not calculated at one day's pay per my bi-weekly paycheck.

So, let's be clear on this. I get paid for precisely 183 days of work per year.
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So you get paid 55 grand to work only 183 days when the average choad has to work 260 days minus vacation. Excuse us if we dont cry you a river......
 
arlow said:
So you get paid 55 grand to work only 183 days when the average choad has to work 260 days minus vacation. Excuse us if we dont cry you a river......
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It took me five years of teaching to reach half of my best compensation level in the private sector. And in fact, like most workers, I work considerably more hours than those I get paid for. I wasn't looking for anyone's sympathy. I was just explaining how a school teacher's compensation is structured.
 
I believe that good teachers are underpaid, bad teachers are a cancer to the "system", and that the kids they deal with nowadays are exponentially worse than years ago. Now back to our regularly scheduled topic...
 
derek said:
What you mean like 3 months off in the summer. Three weeks additional weeks off during the school year, and 7 misc no school days, plus 3 staff development days which are nothing more than coffee talk and get away from the kids days.

http://www.hw-regional.k12.ma.us/HWRSDschoolcalendars/2010-2011 Calendar.pdf

Where else can you work 67% of the regular work days a year and only 7 to 8 hours per day with a full inflated salary and guaranteed 80% of that lofty salary for the rest of your life when you retire?

Look at any budget of any town in the country, half goes to PUBLIC EDUCATION and PUBLIC EDUCATION kicks out socialist double digit IQ morons.

Don't get me started on how hard teaching is.
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Just curious - what's your opinion on private school teachers?
 
theGringo said:
I get paid to work 183 days a year. I get no paid time off. For convenience, I take my bi-weekly paycheck over 26 pay periods.

So, let's be clear on this. I get paid for precisely 183 days of work per year.
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So let me figger this out. You get paid 183 days of a 265 day year, so you get 82 days off, right??!!

They learned me in skool that a year is 265 days except when there is a full moon and it is one day more.

Thank god for teachers!!![smile][wink]
 
New Math

depicts said:
So let me figger this out. You get paid 183 days of a 265 day year, so you get 82 days off, right??!!

They learned me in skool that a year is 265 days except when there is a full moon and it is one day more.

Thank god for teachers!!![smile][wink]
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5 days x 52 weeks = 260 days.

Subtract 6 holiday, 5 sick, 2 personal, and 10 days of vacation. I get 237 days.

Subtract my 183 working days, and I get 54 days off that I didn't get in the private sector. Subtract from that 54 days the time I spend in the building when school is not in session. Subtract from that the time spent in mandatory summer classes, for which you pay money. You can whittle that down to 30 days or less pretty quick.

On that basis alone, it was not worth slicing my pay by almost 60% to take the job. Cut your pay by more than half for 30 days off?

If it was easy, everyone would be doing it, don't you think? And on top of that, I have to deal with your malajusted little prick kids all day. Your kids sometimes suck, you know! And I don't even get to slap 'em. [wink]

But I still love the job, and, believe it or not, I love the kids, too. Truly, the parents suck way more than the kids. To me it was worth the pay cut. And I don't even qualify for a pension.

And at my age, I would be getting four or five weeks paid vacation in a private sector job anyway, which makes us pretty much even.

Try teaching for a year. It'll open your eyes.
 
PennyPincher said:
Don't teachers get a paycheck year round? (Not to dismiss her efforts and certainly dishing out money out of her own pocket is beyond pitiful that it's necessary in some districts.)
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Scenario 1 (my wife's district): They offer the option to take your full paycheck paid only during the school year or paid over the entire year. Therefore if we chose the option to get it during the entire year, we are now subject to 20% EXTRA taxes during the summer months due to "deferred compensation." The state considers money being received during the summer as compensation for work performed the previous calendar year. Thanks Deval!

Scenario 2 (my friend's wife's district): They do not offer the option to be paid only during the school year. She only has the option for a lump sum in the summer or multiple checks during the summer. She is not subject to the deferred payment tax because she is not given the option otherwise.



*DISCLAIMER*
I apologize that my low sarcasm meter and hot headedness sent this thread in the wrong direction yesterday. Was having a bad day yesterday.
 
vellnueve said:
Just curious - what's your opinion on private school teachers?
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Different ballgame as it is not funded by the tax payer. I send my kids to a private school due to 'street' kids and types of parents of 'street' kids. I feel it is worth the money. Sucks that my tax dollars do not go to my kids education but rather to some schmo that sends their kid to school just to get them out of the house.
 
economist said:
With all respect, one similarity is that the job often is viewed (or self-described) as a service or sacrifice when in fact it is simply employment. Take your example. As a matter of simple logic one would conclude that the costs you mention must be offset by salary, benefits, or pleasure such that the total benefits exceed the total cost. Furthermore, the net level of benefits in your example must be greater than those available in any other job. Thus, far from sacrifice, the example you offer can only indicate a person who is employed in the best possible job available. Now that fact is true of any employed person, otherwise they would take another available job, or, none being available, would self-evidently be experiencing their greatest job opportunity. Police officers and teachers are just people with jobs. Those jobs have costs and benefits, and employment is voluntary. Any claim of sacrifice is just self-serving nonsense. Logically, people who choose these jobs are doing what is best for them, even if part of the benefit is a warm and fuzzy feeling that they are doing something unusually good.
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Scriv on meds?


ETA: no offense Scriv if you see this.
 
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