USPS should be abolished and everyone who works there needs to be fired.

For 2024 USPS ran at a $9.5B (yes, billion) loss. That is GAAP accounting btw. Yikes. Unlike in the private sector, however, there is no accountability. There is really no need for USPS. The govt doesn’t need to be in the business of delivering mail. Don’t get me wrong, though, it’s a nice service and I think their failure rate is acceptable based on my own experience over the years. But good god it’s economically a disaster for tax payers. DOGE?
 
HarryPottar said:
I know this tongue-n-cheek, but USPS process 152.3 million first class mail a day, that’s just first class a day.
They are aloud a few mistakes, it’s frustrating, I have the same thing happen to me, but should we fire everyone?

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How about all the quiet mistakes?? :P

Seriously though, USPS has been a dumpster fire for a LONG time. IMO, any other company/organization that delt with the volume you're talking about would take steps to improve efficiency at the very least.

The USPS tracking system is a joke at best. Times given for how long something will take to be delivered seems more like random guesses than anything else. At least with UPS and FedEx you have a high chance of things arriving within the time frame given. I'm not alone in seeing USPS tracking showing something going all over the place, before FINALLY arriving where it should. Or taking days longer than UPS to go from the same location to location. One example is when I order coffee beans from a place in Orange, MA. UPS is delivered the following day. USPS is at least a few days. Same distance, just a lot longer. Sure, we're not talking a week (or weeks) to go from one state over, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. I tend to avoid using USPS for those orders whenever possible. I also order smoking wood from a place in northern Maine. They ship out via either FedEx or UPS (I'd have to look at the latest box to see, but it doesn't matter). Delivery is the following day. I can only imagine the shitshow that would happen if they used USPS. Which is probably why they don't.

IMO, USPS should get out of the package side of things. They could also crack down on delivering so much junk mail. OR make those places pay a premium to send out so much crap. Imagine all the paper NOT used if the junk mail was reduced to a fraction of what we get now. I'd say 95% of what goes into my mailbox is complete junk. Most of that goes right into the recycle bin. The rest either gets shredded or just tossed into the trash (CC offers I have zero interest in). Of course, without so much junk mail to haul around, the people doing deliveries would have shorter days. The vehicles would also run less (time wise) and other efficiencies would take place. I highly doubt this would EVER happen with the USPS.

To be fair, I OCCASSIONALLY see packages/items arrive via USPS in a reasonable amount of time. But those are the rare instances. The vast majority miss the delivery time given by days. I could understand if we're having severe weather and having it impact getting something. Although, USPS used to have the motto of giving no fvcks about weather, just getting things delivered. IIRC, that's no longer the case.
 
We've had great service from the USPS for the entire 17 years we've lived here, from the local post office to the people bringing the mail to our door. Our current mailwoman (she-mailman?) is awesome.

Incidentally, when I was in the post office last week the person at the counter mentioned that their contract with UPS was ending and not being renewed.
 
not new guy said:
We've had great service from the USPS for the entire 17 years we've lived here, from the local post office to the people bringing the mail to our door. Our current mailwoman (she-mailman?) is awesome.

Incidentally, when I was in the post office last week the person at the counter mentioned that their contract with UPS was ending and not being renewed.
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Likewise- USPS service for me has been good.

And a cost of $9.5B is chump change compared to the Zelensky subsidy.
[laugh]
 
LittleCalm said:
For 2024 USPS ran at a $9.5B (yes, billion) loss. That is GAAP accounting btw. Yikes. Unlike in the private sector, however, there is no accountability. There is really no need for USPS. The govt doesn’t need to be in the business of delivering mail. Don’t get me wrong, though, it’s a nice service and I think their failure rate is acceptable based on my own experience over the years. But good god it’s economically a disaster for tax payers. DOGE?
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It’s in the constitution isn’t it? Maintaining post roads is very important for national security and citizens right to communicate with each other without being bent over the barrel. We are all for the constitution. I don’t think everything has to make money personally. Full disclosure I was a USPS city letter carrier for 10 years. Only quit last year in fact after becoming all too aware that mgmt didn’t care if I lived or died.
 
We have a small part time PO in our town, only open 4 hours a day. USPS does not deliver to my house on a dead end dirt road. I have a choice, put a mailbox out on the paved road or drive into town to a PO box. I chose the PO box.

Because the window is only open 4 hours a day I finally got a coveted outside PO box. They also have a few lockers, so if you receive a package that is too large for the PO box you get a key to the locker and can retrieve your package 24/7.

One day I went to open one of the lockers and the key broke off. I went back the next day when the window was open and the postmaster opened up the whole unit (as they do when they sort the mail) and gave me my package. She then tells me she is down to only a few lockers because most of them are broken!!! That was 2 years ago and none of the locks have been repaired.

What sucks about it is that if the few remaining lockers are full (which they often are), then you have to go inside for your package and the window is only open 4 hours. That defeats the purpose of an outside box because the inside PO box lobby is open 24/7. I have stopped asking when they will finally repair the outside lockers, because it is looking like they never will. :mad:
 
USPS problems come directly from Congress. If they were run like the corporation that Congress claims they are, they would be far more efficient. You'd close about half of the post offices in the country. Save millions, if not billions, in salaries and pension contributions. Things would be leaner and meaner.

Yet Congresscritters get in the way of allowing the post office to run as it should. And it will run inefficiently until Congress gets out of the way.
 
Mountain said:
Likewise- USPS service for me has been good.

And a cost of $9.5B is chump change compared to the Zelensky subsidy.
[laugh]
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$9.5B LOSS... What business would operate in the red for years and years and still be around? Only something [basically] run by the gov could do that.
SpeedwayMike said:
It’s in the constitution isn’t it? Maintaining post roads is very important for national security and citizens right to communicate with each other without being bent over the barrel. We are all for the constitution. I don’t think everything has to make money personally. Full disclosure I was a USPS city letter carrier for 10 years. Only quit last year in fact after becoming all too aware that mgmt didn’t care if I lived or died.
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IMO, the road maintenance is no longer the domain of the USPS. 200 years ago, yeah. Not these days.

As I already posted, there are things they could do to either reduce the bleeding, or eliminate it completely. I can't recall the last time I sent either an envelop or package out via USPS. I go to the UPS store often enough (there's one maybe 10-15 minutes from me). IIRC, it's been over five years since I was last in the local USPS location. Last time I bought stamps was at the grocery store (several years back). I use the 'forever' stamps since there's a high chance the rate will change before I've used them up. I have over half the last purchase left.

With so much being available online, the USPS is needed far less than even ten years ago now. I pay all my bills online. I drop the rent off at the owners place, so that the USPS doesn't screw up delivering it. Really the only thing that the USPS drops off in my mailbox worth anything are new credit cards (for those expiring) and a couple of periodicals. One is seasonal and the other is monthly. I also tend to go a good week (or more) between going to the mailbox (not at my address because why would it be?).
 
HARRYM said:
Will this Country ever have an epiphany and realize the entire beast called Public Government simply must be downsized.
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I'm sure there are plenty of people that think the same (I do for one). Problem is, there's pretty much a zero chance of it ever happening. Well, at least not without violence being involved.
 
Golddiggie said:
I'm sure there are plenty of people that think the same (I do for one). Problem is, there's pretty much a zero chance of it ever happening. Well, at least not without violence being involved.
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It will be a forced downsizing then as the beast can only grow so large before running out of food. Property taxes are beginning to break the average persons back. The growth of Government isn't infinite, there will be a breaking point.

RMVs not needed

IRS, also not needed

Once the EPA began to arm themselves.....we should have said, ya, we are done with that.

Private Schools, long over due.

The head of the LA Water commission is being paid $775K per year......
 
LittleCalm said:
For 2024 USPS ran at a $9.5B (yes, billion) loss. That is GAAP accounting btw. Yikes. Unlike in the private sector, however, there is no accountability. There is really no need for USPS. The govt doesn’t need to be in the business of delivering mail. Don’t get me wrong, though, it’s a nice service and I think their failure rate is acceptable based on my own experience over the years. But good god it’s economically a disaster for tax payers. DOGE?
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Foreign military aid for even small pisspot countries dwarfs that. Id rather have it all back but given a choice id flush jingocon bullshit wars first before USPS. Low hanging fruit caused by retards.
 
Dennis in MA said:
USPS problems come directly from Congress. If they were run like the corporation that Congress claims they are, they would be far more efficient. You'd close about half of the post offices in the country. Save millions, if not billions, in salaries and pension contributions. Things would be leaner and meaner.

Yet Congresscritters get in the way of allowing the post office to run as it should. And it will run inefficiently until Congress gets out of the way.
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This is it in it’s entirety
 
Golddiggie said:
$9.5B LOSS... What business would operate in the red for years and years and still be around? Only something [basically] run by the gov could do that.

IMO, the road maintenance is no longer the domain of the USPS. 200 years ago, yeah. Not these days.

As I already posted, there are things they could do to either reduce the bleeding, or eliminate it completely. I can't recall the last time I sent either an envelop or package out via USPS. I go to the UPS store often enough (there's one maybe 10-15 minutes from me). IIRC, it's been over five years since I was last in the local USPS location. Last time I bought stamps was at the grocery store (several years back). I use the 'forever' stamps since there's a high chance the rate will change before I've used them up. I have over half the last purchase left.

With so much being available online, the USPS is needed far less than even ten years ago now. I pay all my bills online. I drop the rent off at the owners place, so that the USPS doesn't screw up delivering it. Really the only thing that the USPS drops off in my mailbox worth anything are new credit cards (for those expiring) and a couple of periodicals. One is seasonal and the other is monthly. I also tend to go a good week (or more) between going to the mailbox (not at my address because why would it be?).
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The entire government is a loss. USPS is pretty far down my list to jettison.
 
sbi said:
Probably the most useless organization in the country.

Package mailed from FL to Greenville SC area.
Arrived at the Greenville Distribution center Thursday January 9 at 8:46 am.
Instead of being transferred to my local post office for delivery which is about 8 miles southeast, the package was sent 80 miles northwest to Gastonia NC, arriving there at 4:28 pm.
It is then keeps going east to Charlotte's distribution center, arriving there at 6 pm.
The package is then sent to Greenville SC, arriving there 2.5 hours later.
Then the dickheads at the Greenville USPS distribution center send it back to Gastonia.....


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Reminds me of the time I bought a Steve Miller album, it went from Phoenix AZ to Tacoma then went to Philadelphia and Atlanta before arriving in pre fire LA.
 
HARRYM said:
Billions and Billions of Taxpayer dollars pumped into a failing system where 62% of the systems business is junk mail. It's straight up trucking crazy.
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I know you're not too sharp on this USPS subject, but I didn't know the USPS is taxpayer funded.
 
I had an ammo shipment go from Florida to almost every state west of the Mississippi before it came to the northeast….f***ing fedex
 
free said:
I know you're not too sharp on this USPS subject, but I didn't know the USPS is taxpayer funded.
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www.linns.com

Taxpayer funds come to the U.S. Postal Service’s rescue

The U.S. Postal Service acknowledged on April 2 that it has accepted $8.64 billion of taxpayer funds to offset some of its losses during the COVID-19 pandemic.
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fortune.com

American taxpayers give an $18 billion gift to the post office every year

A new analysis explains just how much the USPS benefits from the subsidies it receives from the federal government.
fortune.com fortune.com

www.realclearpolicy.com

The U.S. Postal Service's Insatiable Appetite for Taxpayers Dollars

The U.S. Postal Service (USPS) just got more than $100 billion in taxpayer assistance through the Postal Service Reform Act. It is licking its chops for billions more as Congressional Democrats and th
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The words of Lincoln would have served you well.
 
We have a USPS PO Box.
  1. My wife ordered something and it was shipped by the USPS.
  2. marked as delivered AND received at our Post Office.
  3. Go in to pick it up and... nothing. Do you have a tracking number? Huh, where could it be? It should be here... let me get the supervisor to call you.
  4. Still don't have the package, or the call from the supervisor.
  5. It'll probably show up in a week or two.
Happens all the time at out Post Office.

Yeah, the check is in the mail? Eff me.
 
Really, if we can't accept what the true reality of the USPS is, and the Billions being wasted, on an agency that will never make a dime.......then we will need to admit that Government will never be streamlined and or downsized.
 
One of the few downsides of moving to Downeast Maine is the poorer USPS service vs. central MA. I've got Informed Delivery where USPS sends me an email every morning with scans of all the mail that is supposed to be delivered that day. In MA it was very accurate; if it said the mail was to be delivered, it virtually always was. Here, at least once a week on average mail it says is supposed to be delivered doesn't show up. Sometimes it's a few pieces, often nothing gets delivered. Today was particularly annoying. My dad and stepmother got all their mail and I got 2 small packages, but none of the 4 important letters that were supposed to be delivered appeared. <Arggh>
 
kevin9 said:
I've got Informed Delivery where USPS sends me an email every morning with scans of all the mail that is supposed to be delivered that day.
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No. Informed Delivery shows mail that is “ to be delivered soon.” Nowhere does Informed Delivery say it depicts mail to be delivered that day.
 
free said:
No. Informed Delivery shows mail that is “ to be delivered soon.” Nowhere does Informed Delivery say it depicts mail to be delivered that day.
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I'm waiting for a package. Usps text update from this morning started it's out for delivery. Well it's not here. Go online to track it and it states it's still in a processing facility. At least it's in this state. Oh wait, it is coming from a place in this state.

They can't even get the tracking system they use to sync with itself. How is that even possible?
 

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