Golddiggie
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IME, USPS tracking is just short of completely useless.
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USPS should be abolished and everyone who works there needs to be fired.
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Don't know yet, I received the other one (two boxes, same item, shipped together).
Spoke with the distribution center, their "engineers" were able to pull images of the labels. They claim that their scanning system gets confused when there is more than one label with address on it. The other label is not a USPS tracking, so their machine can't read it, but it had two addresses on it, the parts source shipping it to the dealer (who shipped it to me). They say if a package cannot be automatically routed by their scanners, someone needs to look for the label and "they can't flip the box on all 6 sides, they are not supposed to". Lame.
The point was not to complain about not receiving the package. I posted before the estimated delivery date. The point was to rant about the idiotic scanning/routing process of the USPS which probably cost them millions every year just because of that lack of efficiency.
Anyways, because of the extra label, they are not sure if I'll ever get it. The shipper already placed and RMA for replacement.
Golddiggie
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@sbi Funny how UPS and FedEx don't seem to have an issue with where the package label is on the box. Either their setup scans the entire thing to find the label, or there's stages before that where it flips the package/box so that the label is facing the correct way. I do make it a point to run over any old labels on boxes (when reusing them) to make sure they don't get scanned. At the very least obscure enough of the barcode that it's not usable. IF I print out my own label, I make sure to cover up any old labels too.
Really does seem like a pretty major failure on the part of the system the USPS is using. Be that from the provider, or how they have it set up. I wouldn't be surprised if the maker of the system offered additional options that would have eliminated these issues. But the people making the decisions (at the USPS) decided to not get them (for whatever 'cost savings' that brough about). Never mind how the customer satisfaction levels keep going down year after year.
Hell, not even related to any packages. Half the time (if not more) when I go out to my mailbox, the damned lid isn't closed. Not sure if the person doing the route just doesn't give a F, or what. Or if they slam it so hard that it flips back open. Then they can't take the extra two seconds to just close it. Especially annoying when we have wet weather and things get soaked due to them.
Really does seem like a pretty major failure on the part of the system the USPS is using. Be that from the provider, or how they have it set up. I wouldn't be surprised if the maker of the system offered additional options that would have eliminated these issues. But the people making the decisions (at the USPS) decided to not get them (for whatever 'cost savings' that brough about). Never mind how the customer satisfaction levels keep going down year after year.
Hell, not even related to any packages. Half the time (if not more) when I go out to my mailbox, the damned lid isn't closed. Not sure if the person doing the route just doesn't give a F, or what. Or if they slam it so hard that it flips back open. Then they can't take the extra two seconds to just close it. Especially annoying when we have wet weather and things get soaked due to them.
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My small town local PO is pretty darn good most of the time as well. They know where everyone lives, know the routes and mis-deliveries are not excessive. The problems occur more often when there are substitute, or part-time seasonal drivers involved. I will say it’s mostly the same with UPS and FedEx. The regular drivers are pretty good.
My biggest gripe with all of them is not waiting for a signature when they service has been paid for. Too often they all stop and run because their time is being micro-managed for efficiency rather than quality.
As an aside, if I have a large, and/or expensive package incoming or outgoing, I will request that it be held for pickup at a local hub or customer service location. It reduces risk by non-regular drivers with regard to mis-handling or theft. I’ve found FedEx has been the easiest and best for that, though it can be done with UPS and USPS as well.
kevin9
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No. I believe you are confusing the package information, which includes the current day deliveries and packages expected in the near future with the mail information that shows mail that is "expected today" (see excerpt below). Until I moved up here the mail and packages shown in the informed delivery email as expected today virtually always showed up on the same day.
Thanks @Golddiggie, that's exactly my point. Blaming some stupid non-USPS label for the package to be traveling around the country. And it is a small yellow label, not even close to any USPS label in shape or content.
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It's the red herring. As mentioned, Congress causes the losses. They force tehm to do all sorts of non-fiscally-intelligent things. And then people point to them and say, "see! The USPS is the big problem."
9B out of 2T dessifit a year. That's 9/2000ths. .45%. Big freaking deal. We have bigger fish to fry in hte US government.
Years ago I worked for office depot as a distribution manager. We used FedEx for alot of online orders if the delivery address was outside of our normal organic delivery truck areas. Post office was trying to win the business. They invited us to tour a package sorting center. The regional dist manager and I went on the tour......walked into the sorting center.....observed for a few minutes while the post office idiot explained the operation.......we both looked at each other like what the f***?!?!?! On the way back to my warshouse we were laughing.......we agreed that we could have laid off over half the f***ing employees in that center and still got the job done. So much wasted labor and useless idiots walking around doing nothing.
f***ing usps is a joke.
f***ing usps is a joke.
Similar to @kevin9 the email I get says “Expected Today” for mail but will sometimes show packages arriving soon further down.
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The government is a jobs program for a bunch of mediocre people.
i did an order from OpticsPlanet on Nov 17, it showed up Dec 30 via USPS, it spent almost 6 weeks sitting in the Indianapolis Distribution Center. Optics Planet finally got fed up trying to find it they sent me another that i received on Dec 23. Trying to send it back to Optic is another drama in itself, i fought for a week to get UPS to pick it up, then they e-mailed me a shipping label for USPS, they had a complete meltdown when i told them i didnt have a printer,, I finally just went to the Post office and mailed it back to them,,, (with tracking)
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By and large this is true.
I recall Vivek saying just last month that a MAJORITY of IRS workers were STILL WORKING FROM HOME!
It's been five years, guys.
mASS RMV took Covid as their excuse to increase payroll and decrease service. They wear it like a badge of honor.
Funny - as your Missouri members can attest - you get out of the big cities and the service by government employees skyrockets. My daughter was flabbergasted at how easy it was to change her lic and reg in MO. They fell over themselves helping her. I've NEVER (and I'm 56 - so 40 years of this) had a smiling RMV worker. Never ever.
USPS is better than most parts of government, though. I think it's the high public interaction and ease of monitoring success or failure. It's right out there.
FYI - the USPS center in Providence is the current black hole of mail. I've had letters, packages, and priority envelopes WITH MF TRACKING go missing there. It took me a year or two to pinpoint it. It's Providence. Someone needs to go in there with a bunch of pink slips and a baseball bat.
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We can thank Benjamin Franklin, who was appointed as the first Postmaster General for the United Colonies in 1775—predating the Constitution—for establishing the postal system.
On a more serious note, I’ve encountered several issues with the USPS in recent months (not to mention the ever-rising cost of stamps). Yes, I know about forever stamps. On two separate occasions, I received notices claiming delivery attempts were made for my packages and another attempt would be made. Since I was home both times, I knew this wasn’t true. When I went to the post office the next day, the packages were on a shelf.
As others have pointed out, USPS tracking has its flaws. While I haven’t experienced many problems with tracking packages, trying to track registered mail has been a nightmare.
I have a paved driveway and FedEX, USPS and usually UPS drives right in. Leaving 2 cases of 9mm ammo sitting on the side of a busy State road is criminal. Would do all of us well to have some kid come by and pick up 2000 rounds of ammo...I'm sure the Media would have a field day with that. Are you REALLY that stupid????
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wrong forum.
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I find delivery services HOLDING my package (giggle) is preferred. USPS - just hold it. I'll be by at lunchtime tomorrow.
I had a UPS package - an Apple lappy-toppy. MF'ers woudn't deliver it. "Oh so sorry - no room number." I was getting pissed. It looked like it was gonna get shipped back.
Praise the Maker for the lovely ladies at UPS in Dartmouth. They called me. They held the package for me and I picked it up that night. (It was a nightmare. Shipped by Apple, ordered by Chase Visa,delivered to me. Shipper had sole authority to hold teh shipment. Shipper (apple) had no data on the item. Black hole.)
As bad as all 3 get at times, I find they do a pretty good job overall.
Oh, Amazon should be run by the USPS based on my service lately. LOL.
UPS closed the service center here for “ customer convenience”
We can no longer drop packages off nor have them held for pickup “for our convenience “
FedEx has a package for me “out for delivery” every day for the last 2 weeks. They refuse to deliver
We can no longer drop packages off nor have them held for pickup “for our convenience “
FedEx has a package for me “out for delivery” every day for the last 2 weeks. They refuse to deliver
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I ordered a Breek charging handle for an upper I bought with No BCG or CH. USPS ground. Says its going to be delivered yesterday.
USPS Tracking says its in Minnesota still 7 days after the order.
Somehow, I don't think Im getting it yesterday.
USPS Tracking says its in Minnesota still 7 days after the order.
Somehow, I don't think Im getting it yesterday.
RumRunner
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Give it a little more time, you might still get it yesterday
It's not supposed to be. When it became the US Postal Service back in 1970 it was supposed to be self sufficient. Each class of mail pays for itself. Like everything in this country, Covid di them in. If they had only listened to Pres Trump back then.....
I don’t get it
November I brought some gun parts some k frame pre 1988 stuff off of gun broker. This isn’t stuff you can get on Amazon. No FFL needed in this case, send a check via usps priority mail (mainly for the tracking).. to Philadelphia. From NC. It gets to the Greensboro, NC terminal and randomly sits there than it sat randomly for no reason in some small post office in Virginia. Finally some how got there 2 weeks later.
This time I found a used model 638 good price a little worn and used it’s gonna be a carry piece as it’s post lock etc etc.
Directions mail check to FFL (the gun is being sold by a gun store) in New Jersey..
I mailed it Monday l… sat in Greensboro, NC (our local usps sort facility) for 3 days. I’m thinking okay well it’ll get to NJ say Tuesday I only got USPS for tracking purposes..
I check today and the envelope is randomly in Minneapolis, Minnesota instead of the small NJ town or regional NJ usps facility.
I can’t stand FedEx as they have gone full retahded since the merger of FedEx ground and express…
I guess if I have to mail a check I’m just gonna go with UPS ground they seem not to mess things up.
Oh and my brother tried to send me some things from market basket from MA to NC via usps…. The package randomly ended up in a Virginia post office….. no rhyme or reason and was sent back to him.
November I brought some gun parts some k frame pre 1988 stuff off of gun broker. This isn’t stuff you can get on Amazon. No FFL needed in this case, send a check via usps priority mail (mainly for the tracking).. to Philadelphia. From NC. It gets to the Greensboro, NC terminal and randomly sits there than it sat randomly for no reason in some small post office in Virginia. Finally some how got there 2 weeks later.
This time I found a used model 638 good price a little worn and used it’s gonna be a carry piece as it’s post lock etc etc.
Directions mail check to FFL (the gun is being sold by a gun store) in New Jersey..
I mailed it Monday l… sat in Greensboro, NC (our local usps sort facility) for 3 days. I’m thinking okay well it’ll get to NJ say Tuesday I only got USPS for tracking purposes..
I check today and the envelope is randomly in Minneapolis, Minnesota instead of the small NJ town or regional NJ usps facility.
I can’t stand FedEx as they have gone full retahded since the merger of FedEx ground and express…
I guess if I have to mail a check I’m just gonna go with UPS ground they seem not to mess things up.
Oh and my brother tried to send me some things from market basket from MA to NC via usps…. The package randomly ended up in a Virginia post office….. no rhyme or reason and was sent back to him.
Golddiggie
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IME/IMO, covid didn't do jack to the USPS. It was already a dumpster fire LONG before then.
Most motor vehicle license offices in MO (RMV, DMV, etc) , especially in rural areas are run as private entities. The one in our town is privately owned. They aren't state owned which makes the employees not state employees. It seems to work well here.
As far as the USPS here in MO, it is abysmal. I don't have the time to write here some of the issues I've had with it here, statewide as a whole, not necessarily our local PO but they have some issues of their own with substitute rural carries not giving two shits who gets what mail. The statewide USPS has had several audits instigated by our Senator in DC (Hawley) and he is pissed. The USPS always has an excuse why they can't deliver mail on time...one is getting help....no, the staff they have already hired simply doesn't show up for work or they leave early and, because they are union, there are few if any repercussions.
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